Opiate withdrawal

[Kamel37]

Hello new friends .. I am a new member here but have been reading for years... Im going to give my story, if that's ok.. A little over 3 years ago, I had my appendix a taken out. After that I was prescribed 5mg perks and I can remember every detail leaving the hospital and taking my first dose .. Heaven on earth..

I then kept this pattern till the bottle emptied, than find Roxie's .. They're 30 mg. Now one or these Roxie's would last me a week because I could break Into tiny pieces and get that same feeling of well, heaven.. Then it turned into needing an entire hole one, then 2 then 3 over Time I couldn't maintain cash for habit so i went to to suboxone .. I stayed on low doses to not feel sick, sometimes felt a little tired and buzzed.

This has gone on since about a month ago, when I developed major pain in my abdomen and had to go to the ER.. Well I went to several doctors after and got the 7.5 perks which is kind of the doctors but let's face it .. I could take the entire bottle in 3 days. So now my new doctor thinks this is Crohn's disease and my other doctors misdiagnosed my appendix needing out years ago. Crohn's causes flare ups which lead to severe pain ..

Ok that being said,, in between my suboxone cycles sometimes I would take a break and maybe take a Roxi (30 mg blue ).. And I never have gotten even the slightest buzz, and YeS I know all about BUPE and how it uses more receptors etc.. I made sure to wait 2 days or so before taking the blues .. Now in the last 3 years I may have done it 20 times total for the longest period of 7 days before back on BuPe.. Soo that being said, my tolerance is just too high for what the doctors will prescribe.. And I'm in actual in need of the pain meds .. Not for rec ..

So here's the deal .. I can take 3-4. Blues at once and not get an itch, buzz, any affects except no withdrawal and smaller pupils ... So I decided to try and get my tolerance down .. I decided to detox could turkey.. Since Friday I've been in bad withdrawl and it sucks .. My question is I don't drink don't smoke cigs or weed my only vice was ever pain pills it's all I really like .. I'm wondering when WD will go away ??

It's almost Monday morning and I work Monday and Tuesday night .. Just wondering if my tolerance will ever go back to normal ? And when the hell WD will go away because every second I am wanting to take pills to stop the pain .. I also never injected, or snorted, just swallowed orally .. Any help is appreciated as I'm seriously hurting I need support guys

 

[Kamel37]

Hello new friends .. I am a new member here but have been reading for years... Im going to give my story, if that's ok.. A little over 3 years ago, I had my appendix a taken out. After that I was prescribed 5mg perks and I can remember every detail leaving the hospital and taking my first dose .. Heaven on earth.. I then kept this pattern till the bottle emptied, than find Roxie's .. They're 30 mg. Now one or these Roxie's would last me a week because I could break Into tiny pieces and get that same feeling of well, heaven.. Then it turned into needing an entire hole one, then 2 then 3 over Time I couldn't maintain cash for habit so i went to to suboxone .. I stayed on low doses to not feel sick, sometimes felt a little tired and buzzed. This has gone on since about a month ago, when I developed major pain in my abdomen and had to go to the ER.. Well I went to several doctors after and got the 7.5 perks which is kind of the doctors but let's face it .. I could take the entire bottle in 3 days. So now my new doctor thinks this is Crohn's disease and my other doctors misdiagnosed my appendix needing out years ago. Crohn's causes flare ups which lead to severe pain .. Ok that being said,, in between my suboxone cycles sometimes I would take a break and maybe take a Roxi (30 mg blue ).. And I never have gotten even the slightest buzz, and YeS I know all about BUPE and how it uses more receptors etc.. I made sure to wait 2 days or so before taking the blues .. Now in the last 3 years I may have done it 20 times total for the longest period of 7 days before back on BuPe.. Soo that being said, my tolerance is just too high for what the doctors will prescribe.. And I'm in actual in need of the pain meds .. Not for rec .. So here's the deal .. I can take 3-4. Blues at once and not get an itch, buzz, any affects except no withdrawal and smaller pupils ... So I decided to try and get my tolerance down .. I decided to detox could turkey.. Since Friday I've been in bad withdrawl and it sucks .. My question is I don't drink don't smoke cigs or weed my only vice was ever pain pills it's all I really like .. I'm wondering when WD will go away ?? It's almost Monday morning and I work Monday and Tuesday night .. Just wondering if my tolerance will ever go back to normal ? And when the hell WD will go away because every second I am wanting to take pills to stop the pain .. I also never injected, or snorted, just swallowed orally .. Any help is appreciated as I'm seriously hurting I need support guys

Guys I'm still awake since last post really about to give up and go back I need some support please !

 

[herbavore]

One of the hardest things to navigate is both an addiction to the high and a need for pain medication. Crohn's responds very well to acupuncture and Chinese herbs. You may need to try something else entirely and get off opiates. When you describe them as heaven but think you need them for pain it gives you an automatic excuse to keep them in your life. I would try alternatives and see if I could rid my life of both the dependence and the disease.

 

[Eveleivibe]

Hello new friends .. I am a new member here but have been reading for years... Im going to give my story, if that's ok.. A little over 3 years ago, I had my appendix a taken out. After that I was prescribed 5mg perks and I can remember every detail leaving the hospital and taking my first dose .. Heaven on earth.. I then kept this pattern till the bottle emptied, than find Roxie's .. They're 30 mg. Now one or these Roxie's would last me a week because I could break Into tiny pieces and get that same feeling of well, heaven.. Then it turned into needing an entire hole one, then 2 then 3 over Time I couldn't maintain cash for habit so i went to to suboxone .. I stayed on low doses to not feel sick, sometimes felt a little tired and buzzed. This has gone on since about a month ago, when I developed major pain in my abdomen and had to go to the ER.. Well I went to several doctors after and got the 7.5 perks which is kind of the doctors but let's face it .. I could take the entire bottle in 3 days. So now my new doctor thinks this is Crohn's disease and my other doctors misdiagnosed my appendix needing out years ago. Crohn's causes flare ups which lead to severe pain .. Ok that being said,, in between my suboxone cycles sometimes I would take a break and maybe take a Roxi (30 mg blue ).. And I never have gotten even the slightest buzz, and YeS I know all about BUPE and how it uses more receptors etc.. I made sure to wait 2 days or so before taking the blues .. Now in the last 3 years I may have done it 20 times total for the longest period of 7 days before back on BuPe.. Soo that being said, my tolerance is just too high for what the doctors will prescribe.. And I'm in actual in need of the pain meds .. Not for rec .. So here's the deal .. I can take 3-4. Blues at once and not get an itch, buzz, any affects except no withdrawal and smaller pupils ... So I decided to try and get my tolerance down .. I decided to detox could turkey.. Since Friday I've been in bad withdrawl and it sucks .. My question is I don't drink don't smoke cigs or weed my only vice was ever pain pills it's all I really like .. I'm wondering when WD will go away ?? It's almost Monday morning and I work Monday and Tuesday night .. Just wondering if my tolerance will ever go back to normal ? And when the hell WD will go away because every second I am wanting to take pills to stop the pain .. I also never injected, or snorted, just swallowed orally .. Any help is appreciated as I'm seriously hurting I need support guys

Hiya Kamel37,

Welcome to Bluelight. Thank you for telling us your story. I am sorry to hear of your troubles. Physical withdrawal symptoms from opiates tends to last 3 - 5 days, but the psychological affects will last longer - sometimes up to two weeks. So if you have any depression, as difficult as it may be try to tell yourself "it will pass." That psychological aspect of withdrawal is often the reason that people tend to go back into addiction so this is the best time to try and get support; whether that's Bluelight, 12-step approaches, smart recovery, having a few contacts on hold encase of cravings, or whatever helps you through.

Here are a few links to some threads that may be of help;

- Personal Accounts of Addiction What's Your Story
- Today I am thankful for...
- Exercise 4 Health, Mental Health and Addiction vs. I worked all that out
- May getting and / or staying sober thread vs. May Flowers
- Creating Positive Change vs. If Nothing Changes, then Nothing Changes

I am also extremely sorry to hear of your pain issues and hope that you and the doctors find a way of managing your pain without having to affect your addiction. That must be difficult and I feel for you going through this.

Keep with us - we are here for you. Please feel free to ask any question. Also you are more than welcome to PM me any time if you want someone to talk or to listen to you.

Thinking of you and wishing you all the very best in recovery,
Evey

 

[Kamel37]

Hiya Kamel37,

Welcome to Bluelight. Thank you for telling us your story. I am sorry to hear of your troubles. Physical withdrawal symptoms from opiates tends to last 3 - 5 days, but the psychological affects will last longer - sometimes up to two weeks. So if you have any depression, as difficult as it may be try to tell yourself "it will pass." That psychological aspect of withdrawal is often the reason that people tend to go back into addiction so this is the best time to try and get support; whether that's Bluelight, 12-step approaches, smart recovery, having a few contacts on hold encase of cravings, or whatever helps you through.

Here are a few links to some threads that may be of help;

- Personal Accounts of Addiction What's Your Story
- Today I am thankful for...
- Exercise 4 Health, Mental Health and Addiction vs. I worked all that out
- May getting and / or staying sober thread vs. May Flowers
- Creating Positive Change vs. If Nothing Changes, then Nothing Changes

I am also extremely sorry to hear of your pain issues and hope that you and the doctors find a way of managing your pain without having to affect your addiction. That must be difficult and I feel for you going through this.

Keep with us - we are here for you. Please feel free to ask any question. Also you are more than welcome to PM me any time if you want someone to talk or to listen to you.

Thinking of you and wishing you all the very best in recovery,
Evey

Thank you Very much for the response I am beyond thankful for your support . I'm on day 3 and I am not sure if I will make it to day 4

 

[Eveleivibe]

Hiya Kamel37,

Well done on day 3 - that's an ace achievement. You CAN make it to day 4 and further. You just have to believe in YOU and know that you can do it. I bet at one point you didn't think you could make it to day 3? And now you have. I suggest that you try to take it one day at a time and praise your achievement each day that passes. Because each day that passes your addiction is whispering to you less because you're giving it the finger and saying EH I'M THE BOSS OF MY WORLD! (Sorry if that sounds cheesy!)

Take care and keep fighting the fight! You've got this!
Evey xxxx

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

No one can really say how long it will take for your tolerance to reset, it's different for everyone. Do I understand correctly in that by not using over the weekend you were hoping to reset your tolerance down to a level that your prescribed drugs will cover? If that's the case then doing that will work, but no one can really say how long it will take.

You would need to be a bit more precise with regards to information about your oxy usage. The pattern of usage you describe shouldn't really be enough to raise your tolerance above your prescribed level, and if it was raising your tolerance you would be feeling the wd each time you returned to the bupe? Are you currently on a buprenorphine script or an oxy script? Your post is a little confusing.

Be interesting to know about how your weekend of no usage has affected your tolerance.

 

[wmwine]

Theres a song called "King Heroin" by James Brown. Opiates are opiates. Your blues will be similiar to heroin.

"Six days of madness, Hah! You might throw me off."

I would say its about right, Six days of pure hell and after that you will see the end of the tunnel. Day 3-4 being the peak and after that is easier.

 

[Kamel37]

Hey all thank you so much for comments .. I can't explain the hell that I am experiencing.. Almost to day 4.. If it wasn't for my Xanax I would have No sleep but I'm getting 2 hours a night.. My body is right now experiencing the chills fever aches.. I am trying to praise my achievement each day but it so freaking hard .. I'm so alone in this hence positing .. I'm a 27 year old male and I once had a girl I loved and she eventually left me due to catching me in lie after lie .. I would give anything to have a girl comforting me and sitting with me but I will be damned if I'm going to let my social life get involved .. Oh wait , I've already destroyed and distance all of my friends thanks to the bupe.. Ok let me address to omen.. I've been using for 3 years on and off till eventually I would have to take 4 blues at once to feel " normal ".. I have been on suboxone for 3 years also and I would occasionally take the opiate break for well to try to get euphoria .. I then got diagnosed with Crohn's may 12, and got the perk 7.5 .. Now I can take 15 without missing a beat , that's my problem and why i decided to reset my tolerance .. I fear I am going to have surgeries coming up and I can't be this high on tolerance .. I'm in south Florida and the doctors have been taking so much heat you have no idea .. It's not how it was finding the stuff is rare and pricey ..I just want my own script to be suffice .. I have been battling all day struggling to take a blue or bupe to end the struggle .. I'm trying to convince myself that I've come this far but the mind is weak and begging for and I mean screaming and begging for a opiate.. My tolerance at it's highest was 3-4 ... If that helps but my suboxnw tolerance was 2.5-3 mg every day .. Again I say this has been 3.5 years of this .. So I hope that helps .. Thanks guys it really helps to know other people will listen to me .. I might sound delusional right now but trust me .. I have a lot I can accomplish in life but if I don't win here I don't think I'll ever to it .. Ps my brother is a bad junkie too with the same blues .. And of course we have bonded over that and hated each other over it .. He's been doing it way longer and been caught stealing , jail , etc. I've never had that and he's 34 we all have just accepted he is who he is .. But he takes one blue up his nose and gets high !! I don't get it .. Thanks again guys

 

[Kamel37]

I'm such a failure as I lay here awake since last post I have had the worst of it to where my pain in my legs was just unbearable I was punching my wall going crazy .. I then got up and chewed a blue .. 4 days in , sitting here waiting and begging for the blue to kick in and see if it will take any of this away ( remember my normal dose was 3 blues at a time and didn't get a buzz ) .. I'm sorry I let everyone down but most of all my self .. I'm thinking I may need to find a taper off or something ? I'm so defeated .. Please kick in pill please I'm in so much agony .. It's crazy how your body is capable of this .. The legs feel like ..
Someone is crushing them with a table saw .. Thank you all and I'm ending my rant with that

 

[Kamel37]

Pill has kicked in and I'm not even close to a buzz .. However , my legs stopped and I'm feeling soo much better .. Did I just set myself to day 1 again ? I need help I can't do this alone

 

[Eveleivibe]

STOP THAT! You CAN do this! So you've slipped. Now think positive - as opposed to last week, you've had one, right? You had lots last week, didn't you?! So that is a success, as far as I can see. OK - you're on day one again. Maybe for you counting the days isn't working. For some, counting the days is a way of gaining confidence, feeling great about becoming clean and what-not. But for others, counting the days can have a detrimental affect on their recovery. So thus, instead of thinking, I've slipped back to day 1, how about your thought pattern to something like; well I achieved three days and I've had a lot less than I had last week. Next week, I'm going to aim to have a lot less than this week.

Recovery is not a race. Not a sprint or a marathon, it's a lonnnnnnng walk it's a journey, full of observation on the way; only instead of seeing the beauties of nature the trees, the flowers, the path going on and on and on; you are seeing YOU and learning about you. That's what recovery is. You CAN do this and you ARE doing this so PLEASE try not to be disheartened. We all fall off that horse as the bloody thing gallops away, up steep hills, along rocky paths, but we learn to stay on that horse longer each time, and longer and longer until eventually we're wondering whatever all the fuss was about.

In a nutshell,, instead of focusing on your failures, focus on your achievements.
All the best,
Evey

 

[Kamel37]

Evey do you have a plan of stuff to use that I can do to kick this ? A suboxone schedule that works ? I have two strips left .. And only 3 Xanax 2mg.. It's amazing I felt better taking the pills as stopping withdrawals but my pain in my stomach and back which doctors " think is Crohn's " was back.. A pain I didn't notice in withdrawl .. Which means is my body rejecting opiates now by the pain which is making doctors think could be Crohn's ? Or was my body in so much pain that it forgot ? Answers please and thank you