Kratom withdrawal, harmala and phencyclidine

[cdin]

OOOOK. This is probably one of the weirder things I'm ever going to write. I was using kratom, rather heavily over a period of about a year. It worked wonders for me - I have quit smoking tobacco, drinking, shooting k and coke and opiates and oodles of other terrible behavior. But i was kindof stuck on the kratom. I've been working it down from 20gs to about 7 - 8 with harmala alkaloids as detailed in another post. This is where things get weird. For two days i stuck with low dose caapi, but instead of kratom, i started using low (REAL low) doses of amp sulphate, like 5mg morning, 3 mg afternoon, all the while drinking little swills of maybe 5g caapi extract per swill every few hours. Two days go by, i feel pretty good - some(I know this makes it even crazier) selank shows up in the mail. The same day as a well trusted source FINALLY brings me my everest - .5 g GOOD pcp. So i do 1mg of the weird peptide just, ya, know, to make sure we can never figure out what happened. Then decide to get into the dust. This goes on for a day in which i'm mourning the passing of my rat, aleister crowley who suffered a rather terrible mammory tumor and had to be shufffled off to the next bardo. As im coming down today - i realize - there's nothing, no yearning for krat at all. I don't know if it was the caapi, the selank or the random dust bender, but ill be hornswaggled if i dont feel right as rain. I even took a 4g dose today because today we actually got the rat euthanized, just out of habit - and weirdest thing - couldn't feel it. I'll see how this goes the next few days. has anyone else dusted their way out of a mu opioid habit. it doesnt seem far fetched at all.

 

[Toz]

OOOOK. This is probably one of the weirder things I'm ever going to write. I was using kratom, rather heavily over a period of about a year. It worked wonders for me - I have quit smoking tobacco, drinking, shooting k and coke and opiates and oodles of other terrible behavior. But i was kindof stuck on the kratom. I've been working it down from 20gs to about 7 - 8 with harmala alkaloids as detailed in another post. This is where things get weird. For two days i stuck with low dose caapi, but instead of kratom, i started using low (REAL low) doses of amp sulphate, like 5mg morning, 3 mg afternoon, all the while drinking little swills of maybe 5g caapi extract per swill every few hours. Two days go by, i feel pretty good - some(I know this makes it even crazier) selank shows up in the mail. The same day as a well trusted source FINALLY brings me my everest - .5 g GOOD pcp. So i do 1mg of the weird peptide just, ya, know, to make sure we can never figure out what happened. Then decide to get into the dust. This goes on for a day in which i'm mourning the passing of my rat, aleister crowley who suffered a rather terrible mammory tumor and had to be shufffled off to the next bardo. As im coming down today - i realize - there's nothing, no yearning for krat at all. I don't know if it was the caapi, the selank or the random dust bender, but ill be hornswaggled if i dont feel right as rain. I even took a 4g dose today because today we actually got the rat euthanized, just out of habit - and weirdest thing - couldn't feel it. I'll see how this goes the next few days. has anyone else dusted their way out of a mu opioid habit. it doesnt seem far fetched at all.

NMDA antagonists (especially one as long lasting as phencyclidine) can completely abolish cravings for other drugs, such as opiates (unless you are heavily addicted) for days / weeks.

 

[vortech]

I'd give credit to the PCP as much as anything else. The arylcyclohexylamines are pretty magical tools for mitigating the symptoms of withdrawal.

As I write this I'm feeling pretty damn good considering I haven't had my usual Lyrica dose in a couple days, all thanks to the magic of MXE. It's not the first time I've run out of my Lyrica prescription a couple days before I'm due for my refill, and each time MXE has been a good fit to bridge the gap.

 

[cdin]

long live the golden dust of angels. I can see why the biker gangs and cia keep this to themselves, it's too fucking good.