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pmz
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I still have a spacy vision, and brain fog. and pretty much an overall low emotional response to things. Could be related to the music thing. How is your emotional response. Like I find it hard to even feel adrenaline watching an action movie.
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im a towel - Finally someone with similar symptoms. I've had tingling in my head for 5 months since the last time I took MDMA. It was getting a lot better then I had a cup of caffeine about 2 or 2.5 months ago and it brought back my symptoms big time. Head tingling, burning sensations, numbness, and pins and needles in my head. It is slowly getting better over time. Do you still avoid caffeine and other drugs? I vowed to myself that I'm not smoking weed, drinking alcohol, caffeine, or any other drugs until my one year anniversary since taking MDMA which is the start of next year. I want to be able to drink again, smoke weed occasionally, and drink a cup of coffee but I also don't want to risk another setback. You might be right that we injured our trigeminal nerve. All the sensations I have our mainly the on the top of my scalp and some sensations at the forehead where the nerves are located. The term for what I'm going through is head paresthesia and I read that it can be caused by a damaged nerve so you might just be right. Also, my jaw was really sore from that night for a few days after - that has never happened on previous rolls (and I also had never taken nearly as much - 333mg. in a night).
You're 100% now? Anything that helped you in recovering from your head tingles other than time? Did you have any cognition/social problems...I still don't feel totally back to myself 5.5 months out.
India - Nothing wrong with visiting this website during a comedown. What you want to do avoid is google searching MDMA recoveries. Getting some information at first is nice then your just beating a dead horse and making yourself paranoid you are fucked for a very long time. This forum is helping me get through a rough period of my life right now. I can't thank some of the people on here enough and it's nice being able to talk to people that can relate to what you're going through. Like I said, just avoid excessive searching for MDMA recovery stories after you've already done your initial analysis. Remember any stories you read to take with a grain of salt because everyone's body reacts differently, we have different histories with MDMA, and we didn't take the same batch of MDMA (or god forbid some research chemicals, piperazines, etc.).
You're 100% now? Anything that helped you in recovering from your head tingles other than time? Did you have any cognition/social problems...I still don't feel totally back to myself 5.5 months out.
India - Nothing wrong with visiting this website during a comedown. What you want to do avoid is google searching MDMA recoveries. Getting some information at first is nice then your just beating a dead horse and making yourself paranoid you are fucked for a very long time. This forum is helping me get through a rough period of my life right now. I can't thank some of the people on here enough and it's nice being able to talk to people that can relate to what you're going through. Like I said, just avoid excessive searching for MDMA recovery stories after you've already done your initial analysis. Remember any stories you read to take with a grain of salt because everyone's body reacts differently, we have different histories with MDMA, and we didn't take the same batch of MDMA (or god forbid some research chemicals, piperazines, etc.).
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thejibberman
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I've been in this recovery for 2 months now and I can drink caffiene and alcohol again. Drank about a whole litre bottle with jack Daniels last night infact for a wedding party. I have to say from that night MDMA took me, I like to say I have recovered, I feel normal again, I might be a little more anti-social than I was but that's only because I was in such a dark place 2 months-a month ago. I reckon in about three more weeks and I'll be back on my game.
I genuinely believe this is all based on anxiety and stress. It wasn't until I started relaxing I began to feel much better.
I genuinely believe this is all based on anxiety and stress. It wasn't until I started relaxing I began to feel much better.
pmz - the first two weeks my emotional response was terrible, felt like my soul had been ripped out. i tried to look at people more when talking to them in an effort to connect with them but the derealisation was so bad they looked like they were from planet mars and i had to look away after a bit. after that i found myself laughing at comedies again and started to doubt this was Dr/dp as now it's purely visual disturbances and some brain fog. i do perhaps get a bit less excited by things but only as someone would when they're going through a tough time. I got a job today and I'm genuinely excited, just not jumping around in glee like I would normally be. as I said because my emotional response is fairly normal now i wasn't even sure if i had Dr/dp and not just a silent migraine. when I think back to how I first was though i'm sure it is. one thing i will say though is although it is possible for me to get excited i get bored soooo easily these days, anytime I'm not doing something productive like going to the gym or looking for a job I'm bored out of my skull, and this is from a student who before this was perfectly happy to spend a solid week sat on the sofa watching netflix haha. free time kinda sucks right now
edit: tbh even when I am at work/at the gym i do still get bored sometimes. but I go by the logic that if I'm going to be bored i may aswell be getting toned/making money while I'm doing it haha
also pmz maybe you should do something crazy that scares the shit out of you like skydiving. at the very worst if you don't feel the adrenaline you'll just seem really fearless to whoever is there!
edit: tbh even when I am at work/at the gym i do still get bored sometimes. but I go by the logic that if I'm going to be bored i may aswell be getting toned/making money while I'm doing it haha
also pmz maybe you should do something crazy that scares the shit out of you like skydiving. at the very worst if you don't feel the adrenaline you'll just seem really fearless to whoever is there!
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thejibberman
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I know what you mean man, I'm still getting bored extremely crazy, I even get excited to walk to a relatives house or something and actually do something, I'm a student too and I know exactly what you talk about with the Netflix thing! It's summer now too so I'm relaxing but also very bored hahaha, but I'm feeling like me again and can enjoy going out, can drink and eat whatever I feel now. I honestly think in a couple of weeks to a month or so I could be back to me, anxiety is dying down and happiness is rising back.
I went through a pretty traumatic trip on the MDMA I took, and had a generally bad feeling throughout the whole night, then during the comedown I had a bit of a panic attack because my tongue had a reaction with some antibiotics I had a week before. This link at the bottom, talks about drug trauma that leaves people with long-lasting mental issues, and I genuinely believe I had trauma. It mentions that it can be completely reversed with a great trip, but I think I (if not all of us going through with this) could not have a good trip as I'd be worrying if I made a mistake or I'm going to feel absolutely horrible for another year or so. Check it out: http://thedea.org/mental.html
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I don't do other drugs, I kept drinking alcohol occasionally and I never stopped drinking coffee, I only noticed that it had an influence in some way for a few hours. After 2 months I stopped drinking coffee for 2 weeks but the symptoms didn't really get that much better after stopping, so I started drinking again.
The thing that alleviated the pain best was sleeping, I always felt better in the morning but everything got worse throughout the day. And for the rest I think you need to give it time. I really thought that I could be stuck with it for life, I'm so happy this isn't the case, it really does go away completely. I never had any cognition or social problems except for the down feeling the first few weeks but I already knew that feeling.
I can just imagine where you are at, every person is different but for me the symptoms really didn't get that much better after a half year. It was a little bit better but not by much. If someone would have told me when I was 6 months in that it would go away completely I wouldn't have believed him.
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I remember my bad trip was on one capsule of tested mdma. I am susceptible to psychoacts. and one full loaded cap of lets say 0.15 was wayyy too strong at the time. I wonder if I pop 1/3 of a capsule, 0.05, and I have an amazing time, forgetting about worsening my state, ill go back to normal. I feeel like this could work... Any advice?
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I say go for it. After asking this multiple times, and getting multiple answers saying how immensely stupid it would be. I also wrote you a pm about it. If you still think it would be a good idea then I think you should go for it, and maybe prove to yourself and everyone here the nature of your damage once and for all.
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It does make sense, how was your trip bad me2point0? I can see this all being anxiety from the emotional trauma we gave ourselves whilst in a sensitive state form the MDMA. It does say that it people do recover in time, so sticking to abstinence is going to be my route as I can already feel myself get better!
However I reckon if I were to make a smaller dose (even though my crippling anxiety was bought on by a TINY dose) with pre-load and post-load, without any need to worry, in a nice open comfortable place (like a festival gig) I could probably counter-act all of this with MDMA. But of course, my mind would get the better of me and I know I would start worrying about getting this all over again, so staying clean is the way. I've only done MDMA three times too!
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Done mdma once, and it was that time. Badtripped for 20 minutes right from the start of the comeup and was frightened to death for that time. Ended up being comforted, removing all anxiety and panic. But a little too late... Rest of the night was good. Dizzy dpdr etc feelings started 2 days after, because of anxiety probably...
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2 to 3 days after ingestion of MDMA is when the chemical depletion hits bottom, which in turn causes immense anxiety and/or depression, dp/dr. That's why you have terms like "tuesday blues" or "suicide tuesday" etc. The interesting thing is that for those of us that suffer a LTC those symptoms prevails and seem to not recover - or recover only partially as the depleted enzymes and neurotransmitters, and possibly down-regulated receptors, are replenished and up-regulated.
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Excuse me for not understanding, i'm french Canadian and I don't always understand the full extend the message divered. Questions about this post:
1. What's the true meaning of LTC in this context?
2. Am I a victim of what you are saying or am I not included in that?
3. Is this backed up by anything? Im not being agressive here or anything, but is it really true that there's no room for recovery and i'll actually end up being dizzy and brainfoggy forever?
Sorry again for looking so dumb, you wrotte a small but very dense paragraph and I don't quite catch it all.
ScaredFirstTimer
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I'm sorry. I meant that we (LTC, Long Term Comedown-sufferers) are still experiencing symptoms after we should have recovered. We are still experiencing symptoms after the chemical depletion and receptor down-regulation has "recovered". This does not mean that we will never recover! It just means that what is wrong with us is something more or other than chemical depletion and receptor down-regulation.
Recent research show that the damage we have caused will reverse itself, and many of the reports here on bluelight also show that! Compare yourself to cope, dawglaw or happy_dude for instance! They had very severe symptoms, some of them more severe than your problems, and they've recovered back to 100%. I am still not recovered, but I haven't felt brainfog for months. It was one of my worst symptoms in the first few months. Zebrafish (if I may use you as an example) had debilitating dizziness for at least 7 months. Now it's all gone for him.
You seem young, and the particular symptoms you are suffering will sort themselves out. I am one-hundred-percent sure that you will recover completely in time me2point0.
I'm not a native english speaker myself, and I notice sometimes that my sentences get a bit cluttered and hard to make sense out of. Sorry for that.
Don't do that shit man. Have will power. Trust me. It will fuck you up worse. You need time and rest. I haven't smoked, drank, or even had caffeine in 7 months. It's hard af but I know that it I were to do one of these things it would only hinder my recovery.
Hey all,
I haven't posted in a while, so I thought I would give a quick update. I'm approaching 4 months now and I can say that I am more often than not symptom free. Occasionally, I have problems with head tightness and slight dizziness as if my brain is telling me it's not quite done healing and I need to continue doing healthy things. That's fine!
I think acceptance is the first step in healing. When I got over the "brain damage" thoughts and anxiety, I really started to feel better. There is nothing I can do about it now anyway, right? Accept you're in a healing phase of your life - stop doing drugs, drinking alcohol, smoking, and consuming caffeine for at least a year and exercise often. You'll be just fine! Hell, over the long haul my brain and even my body is going to be healthier for this
As a recent poster stated that is fully recovered, sleep is also very important. I feel great when I first wake up now. I used to dread waking up because my symptoms were already present. Not anymore. Even on days where I have some symptoms, it's usually later in the day. BTW, I've discovered that a dose of melatonin that contains theanine is a great sleep aid for those that need one! Melatonin alone helped somewhat, but combine it with theanine and I sleep like a baby.
One final suggestion. I've really gotten into nootropics now. I figure I've done enough harm to my brain maybe I should start trying to help it. Well, I've been on Noopept for two weeks now and I can't say enough good things about it. You can do your own research online, but suffice it to say that I'm always a skeptic and this stuff works.
I haven't posted in a while, so I thought I would give a quick update. I'm approaching 4 months now and I can say that I am more often than not symptom free. Occasionally, I have problems with head tightness and slight dizziness as if my brain is telling me it's not quite done healing and I need to continue doing healthy things. That's fine!
I think acceptance is the first step in healing. When I got over the "brain damage" thoughts and anxiety, I really started to feel better. There is nothing I can do about it now anyway, right? Accept you're in a healing phase of your life - stop doing drugs, drinking alcohol, smoking, and consuming caffeine for at least a year and exercise often. You'll be just fine! Hell, over the long haul my brain and even my body is going to be healthier for this
As a recent poster stated that is fully recovered, sleep is also very important. I feel great when I first wake up now. I used to dread waking up because my symptoms were already present. Not anymore. Even on days where I have some symptoms, it's usually later in the day. BTW, I've discovered that a dose of melatonin that contains theanine is a great sleep aid for those that need one! Melatonin alone helped somewhat, but combine it with theanine and I sleep like a baby.
One final suggestion. I've really gotten into nootropics now. I figure I've done enough harm to my brain maybe I should start trying to help it. Well, I've been on Noopept for two weeks now and I can't say enough good things about it. You can do your own research online, but suffice it to say that I'm always a skeptic and this stuff works.
Zebrafish,
Man, what a sad story you re-told! That's what I truly don't understand. Why would people suffering from this LTC feel the need to do MDMA again? I'm sorry, but that's insanity.
I've done everything possible I know of to help myself get better. We all know that doing more drugs isn't part of the solution! Hell, I've started on two-a-days to try to speed up and help my recovery as much as possible.
Man, what a sad story you re-told! That's what I truly don't understand. Why would people suffering from this LTC feel the need to do MDMA again? I'm sorry, but that's insanity.
I've done everything possible I know of to help myself get better. We all know that doing more drugs isn't part of the solution! Hell, I've started on two-a-days to try to speed up and help my recovery as much as possible.
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