One gram of Meth, 7 days, what damage is done?

[rollin dubbs]

^ oh. my apologies stellar.bomb
im happy you had fun tho

 

[Moral Decay]

I did meth for over a year every single day. I did maintenance doses during the week of about 500mg-1gram per day. and on teh weekends went balls to the wall for a recreational effect at doses exceeding a gram a day. I definitely suffered negative physical and mental effects. I have completely lost the normal function of my nose. My sinuses do not leak out the way they should. Instead of getting a runny nose that would stream down my lip if not blown my sinus ONLY drains back down my throat (pretty sure this is do to sinus tissue damage). I have at times severe anxiety and mood swings. I have been called "unstable" by both friends and acquaintances. The paranoia that caused me to quit did subside after a year or so.

I'm sure i did brain damage as well, i have a reduced capacity to remember things, and at times forget things that were just said to me unless i write them down. My coordination has also suffered at times i wonder if it caused dyslexia. My teeth rotted from snorting it, I had 4 teeth pulled and got 6 crowns from the damage i did grinding my teeth all the time. Not to mention snorting meth rots your teeth from the inside out.

A gram a week is nothing compared to what I and others i have known have done. I have gone longer than 14 days with out sleep. At that point i was not fun to be around. I was a raging lunatic, hallucinating and babbling about nonsensical bullshit. Twitching and spasming. Scariest part is that i was driving around like this and would frequently pass out at intersections for short micro sleeps where i would often awake confused and not know where i was.

I do not think you need worry about permanent damage from a one week binge, just make sure you are taking regular breaks for long periods of time between your binges. As soon as you notice the drug loosing the fun aspect and taking on different darker aspects its best to give it up. Addiction to meth nearly killed me, and it definitely took its toll on my friendships and relationships. I lost 4 jobs and went from making 40k + a year to make barely 25k, if you are not careful this drug will destroy your life and everything you have owrked for. It took years for my family to trust me again. I often wonder what my life would be like now if i never used meth.

pluss man snorting that shit is horrible for your nose. if anything smoke that shit daug

that is terrible advice. It is no safer or less harmful smoked. Smoked meth rots your teeth and damages you throat and lungs. Have you ever seen a chronic meth smokers teeth? Meth mouth is nasty shit. teeth turn brown and get hourglass shaped before falling out.

I've done some 7 day meth binges, with no sleep and not much eating during that time.

Trust me, it will get ugly in the end. When you no longer know if you're awake or dreaming, don't know what is real and what is not... psychosis is not an unrealistic possibility.

this is truth. My psychosis got so bad i ostracized my self from my family, friends, girlfriend and job. I saw shit, thought people were following me, and was convinced my house was bugged and that cracks in teh walls had people behind them peering in on me. I would snort a line then sit in teh window with binoculars waiting for the police to rush in. I would go to my dealers house and on teh way home was convinced every car on teh road was an agent in part of an investigation/operation to get me. I would take up to an hour to get home 20min away just becuase i was taking all these unnecessary turns to avoid being followed. If a car was behind me for more then a minute i assumed it was an agent of the law.

 

[Stellar.Bomb]

moral decay:
wow, your personal experience definitely gave me a better and more clear way of seeing the dark side of meth, without all the exaggeration and trying to scare me aspect like websites do when trying to get info ... congratulations on stopping .. I do hope you stay motivated to work hard and achieve a lot in life after meth

 

[Moral Decay]

moral decay:
wow, your personal experience definitely gave me a better and more clear way of seeing the dark side of meth, without all the exaggeration and trying to scare me aspect like websites do when trying to get info ... congratulations on stopping .. I do hope you stay motivated to work hard and achieve a lot in life after meth

well I can't take all the credit for stopping, I had multiple dealers; one cut me off, one got his home/lab raided and the other started acted really sketchy and my paranoia + her behavior led me to believe she was trying to set me up to take the fall for her.

In the end I am grateful that i stopped, but at the time i was so miserable, I started researching production and really wanted to learn to make my own. I decided it was dangerous to my health and freedom and decided to just quit. I didn't go cold turkey though, I switched to pharmaceutical speeds like Ritalin dexies and adderall. Overtime I tapered my dose until i finally could go a few days with out passing out everywhere i went.

Strangely i think i destroyed my body's ability to utilize or enjoy most stims. If i get a cold i cant take anything with ephedrine or psedoephedrine as they make me really shakey and sick to my stomach. Caffeine makes me so tense i feel like i will stop breathing. The only stim i can still tolerate and really enjoy is MDMA. And even that is too stimulating sometimes.

A few times i tried meth again after quitting and each time i was miserable almost the entire time. I really am grateful that i got off of it. These days I'm really into MDMA, opiates, benzos, and sometimes weed.

I'm glad my experience was able to help you see the dangers with out having to exaggerate the dangers. I can say this, the dangers you read about are very real, they just are not guaranteed to happen to everyone immediately. That is not to say that meth addiction doesn't creep up on you and the physical damage is irreversible. Those "faces of meth" slide shows are very true. I would post pictures of myself at the start of my heavy use and at the end but i would rather remain anonymous. I will say this i am 6'4'' i was 220 before tweak and when i stopped i was <140lbs. I was a skeleton, a shadow of my former self and i had to eat a TON of calories and fatty foods just to maintain this weight.

I've contemplated going to a sinus specialist to have myself checked out to see if there is anything they can do for my sinus problems, but for now I'm happy being in teh dark about the damage I'm sure i have done.

here is the faces of meth thing: if you gonna watch this mute the sound...the song is lame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT9sUA82KHc

 

[bluelightman]

How is a gram not enough for a week, i wouldnt do it, but yeah...

He only has a gram. That's not going to keep him awake for 7 days.

this is completely wrong^ My dog has been using for three years every now and then and a quarter/gram always keeps him spun the fuck out for two and half days into the third night when he finally gets drunk and makes himself crash... My dog always chooses to stop on his own and always has ATLEAST a five left over, how anyone doesnt stay up for three days on a quarter is beyond my dog.

 

[JWills20]

this is completely wrong^ My dog has been using for three years every now and then and a quarter/gram always keeps him spun the fuck out for two and half days into the third night when he finally gets drunk and makes himself crash... My dog always chooses to stop on his own and always has ATLEAST a five left over, how anyone doesnt stay up for three days on a quarter is beyond my dog.

Calling RSPCA, that's no way to treat your dog.

 

[endotropic]

this is completely wrong^ My dog has been using for three years every now and then and a quarter/gram always keeps him spun the fuck out for two and half days into the third night when he finally gets drunk and makes himself crash... My dog always chooses to stop on his own and always has ATLEAST a five left over, how anyone doesnt stay up for three days on a quarter is beyond my dog.

Hi and welcome to Bluelight!

We don't use SWIM or "my dog" or any of those tricks to disguise who we're talking about in our posts here at Bluelight. First of all it doesn't fool anyone, and more importantly it doesn't offer you any sort of legal protection.

I'd also like to point out that before your post this thread hadn't seen any action in over 3 years, so while you may be correct, I don't think Rectify or anyone else from this thread is still around to comment.

Anyways take a look through the Bluelight User Agreement, and I hope you enjoy your time here!

 

[sean107]

I've stayed awake off of less than a gram of d-amphetamine for 6 days before, no food either. Soooo.

 

[Dysphoric]

I have gone longer than 14 days with out sleep.

Either you're exaggerating or you're delusional; that is impossible, a week is about the longest the body can go. If you "did", you were so far gone you didn't even realize that you were falling asleep.

 

[endotropic]

Does anyone have anything pharmacological or neuroscientific to add?

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Seems to be at least mildly protective in very low doses for rate with traumatic brain damage. But the authors note this is about one-tenth the dose of earlier doses studied. http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0061241#pone-0061241-g005

Another one finding protection when one is deprived of oxygen/in stroke: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028390811001900

I've honestly found so much literature on the damage of meth that I think it would be ridiculous to challenge. I know that volume of studies doesn't necessarily indicate a conclusion but this is a special case. One would be much safer taking d-amp (at therapeutic doses if its indicated).

Seems as if when abused at equipotent doses amp and meth create similar amounts of toxicity
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0892036212000207


This study finds some neuroprotective effects of meth in low doses, but though I can't quite understand just how low they are relative to a normal therapeutic or abused dose I'd bet its a very low dose indeed. This is the only one I could find which didn't include a pre-existent deficit in some brain region before the dose. It importantly is supposed to protect against something and doesn't cause outright protection without a negative factor.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0024722#abstract0

I couldn't find anything on it being protective without some sort of injury or detriment.

 

[legalizeall]

Either you're exaggerating or you're delusional; that is impossible, a week is about the longest the body can go. If you "did", you were so far gone you didn't even realize that you were falling asleep.

I was thinkin the same thing. you might not have realized it but your body will shut itself down no matter what after a certain amount of time and its way before 14 days.

A gram of meth in 7 days? There is absolutely nothing to worry about, if it was meth. If not than no one would know but meth isnt gonna do any harm with that amount over that time frame.

 

[SOMECHiCKk]

I agree as well... To add to what daddysgone said make sure mental state is in good shape....

 

[Seppi]

It really depends on your pattern of use I'd say. A recent paper suggests taking small amounts prior to taking larger amounts may be neuroprotective.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0007812

There's two things worth pointing out about this research. First and foremost, all of this research is on rats and not humans (per the MeSH terms in all the cited papers), and therefore may not even be relevant to humans. The second point is that this isn't really "neuroprotective" per se, it's simply less neurotoxic. As methamphetamine is a direct neurotoxin to human DA neurons, there isn't a non-neurotoxic (i.e., sufficiently small) dose of methamphetamine that one can take to avoid neurotoxicity.

If a person were to snort one gram of meth within a seven day period how much damage would be done?
Starting off day one with a small use and gradually snorting more each day til the gram is gone.
Some questions i'd appreciate answered:
How much septum damage?
How bad will the crash be (if stayed pretty hydrated through the experience and even was able to sleep a little)?
What are some tips to helping the body heal faster?

(No psychological or physical dependency after 4 days of use)
i know that sounds ridiculous but ... after the g is gone... its gone forever

Thank you so much .. please no rude commentary
I just need some advice..

-Stell Bell

I think your biggest concern is the long-term neurodegeneration that meth causes as opposed to the peripheral effects or nasal trauma that snorting it induces. The neurotoxic effects of methamphetamine are sensitive to a variety of factors, primarily brain (not body) temperature and the state of the radical scavenging system (i.e., level of certain antioxidants, their associated metabolizing enzymes, antioxidant metabolic precursors, etc) in your brain's DA/5-HT neurons. Because of that, there's no way to say just how much damage 1g of meth will do to you; however, one thing that's certain is that neurodegeneration is basically unavoidable with that substance.

 

[Seppi]

Either you're exaggerating or you're delusional; that is impossible, a week is about the longest the body can go. If you "did", you were so far gone you didn't even realize that you were falling asleep.

Contrary to popular belief, humans can survive for months without sleep, but the effects it induces in the brain are inevitably going to be permanent after a certain point (I'm basing this upon the disease progression and associated prognosis of individuals diagnosed with fatal familial insomia [associated NLM MeSH link for it]). Eventually, no sleep does indeed kill you, but it will induce a form of dementia before that occurs.

 

[Gambit88]

After 2 days straight of using I was really depressed on the third day. 7 days would probably make me end up in a asylum. But I guess that's because I stayed inside and started to get paranoid. The last time I snorted I stayed up one night and was actually designing business cards for my buddy. The next day I went for a hike and drank a lot of water and didn't have a bad comedown. But using straight for 7 days would probably suck after 2 days. I guess one thing I would try to do is eat before you snort and drink Plenty of water. I know a lot of construction workers that use daily but they eat and sleep and drink plenty of water. I didn't believe that at first but I guess all that hard work out there drains them and they can fall asleep at night wake up the next morning and snort again and keep going.

 

[Psychonautical]

I'm pretty sure i've done 3-4 grams over a period of 3-4 days and then just battled my own temporary psychosis.
I'm alive. I'm pretty sure you are alive. It's better not to ask what damage is done. Rather than it is to just hope that you didn't do any damage at all.
Eat some fish, have some 5-htp, eat some cheese.
If you feel gross, don't do that again.