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Alcoholism Discussion Thread Version 6.0

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Day 6. I'm so bored and reading about people drinking 750 ml of hard liquor a day doesn't help when my habit is minuscule in comparison. Been lifting weights and running instead but you can only do that so much till your back and legs start hurting. I haven't felt this much energy in forever though, I feel better than I did in my 20's. Though now I have a bunch of psychological problems I don't want to work though.

Is it possible to be addicted to alcohol without being an "alcoholic" ? Honestly I hate the taste of alcohol and after a few days I don't even think about alcoholic drinks anymore, I just want to get drunk/buzzed.
 
noone1 said:
Day 6. I'm so bored and reading about people drinking 750 ml of hard liquor a day doesn't help when my habit is minuscule in comparison. Been lifting weights and running instead but you can only do that so much till your back and legs start hurting. I haven't felt this much energy in forever though, I feel better than I did in my 20's. Though now I have a bunch of psychological problems I don't want to work though.

Is it possible to be addicted to alcohol without being an "alcoholic" ? Honestly I hate the taste of alcohol and after a few days I don't even think about alcoholic drinks anymore, I just want to get drunk/buzzed.
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Im on day 6 also. I'm also bored. But i have a dissertation to have complete in 5 days so it goes with the territory :)

I've got my energy back but I do feel that urge to get buzzed too. Its just alcohol is the only buzz I can get living at home. But I drink to the point of blacking out fifty percent of the time. I actually scoured the cupboards before to find some booze, but its all been locked away. Sad times its come to this.

Me thinks I need to just leave booze out of my life. At least until I work out some mental health issues of my own before I touch a drop again.

Keep going though.

x2thec
 
Never considered myself an alcoholic but when I look back at what I was consuming 3-4 months ago it wasn't too healthy.
 
7 days today!!! well chuffed with myself. I got an email yesterday stating that at the dissertation hand in there will be a party for everyone in the faculty building with nibbles and wine. And I know from past experience they do put on a spread and tons of booze. I think I'm gonna just pass or maybe have a quick coca-cola or seomthing. I don't think I'm ready to be around a situation like that yet. Anyone got any good advice on what is best to deal with this sort of situation?
 
Fucks sake, I caved tonight in the house on my own and having been sat in front of excel spreadsheets all day! I have only found 3 cans, but still. Kind of disappointed but at the same time it feels like its taken the edge off of the whole week. No excuses, its a slip up, and I should have known better. Not gonna beat myself up about it though.
 
Had my first day of no alcohol in about 9 months yesterday (was drinking ~30 uk units a day a few months ago, that's equivalent to 75cl vodka for those who don't know what a uk unit is, on top of 200mg diazepam and a gram of smack IV), drunk a bottle of wine again tonight. Bit disappointed.
 
I've been to rehab before and at this stage I don't feel like it's something I would really benefit from at the moment. I'm making good progress in the community and rehab isn't going to offer me anything that I'm not already getting from various different support sources.

I should probably give you some context...I've been on a bupe script for about three and a half months that I haven't cheated on and I've tapered my diazepam consumption down to 25mg a day (by myself from 200mg down to 40mg and from that pointed scripted) and my drinking to two beers a night. I have a care plan set out with my local drug and alcohol services that I'm sticking to, and I've got a community opiate detox coming up later this month. Controlling my alcohol consumption is part of this ongoing care.

Everything is going to plan when looking at the holistic picture, having been a bit greedy for one night and consumed an entire bottle of particularly fine Marcel Deiss late harvest Riesling isn't reason enough to suddenly jack everything in and go in to treatment. It was just a minor disappointment as it was a bit of a step backwards when everything else recently had been a step forward.

Thanks for the suggestion though.:)
 
The other day I was having a pub-lunch with a friend and he offered me a sip of his cider. It smelled delicious - toffee-apple cider, which personally sounds awesome to me, 'cause I love sweet things. Anyway, I didn't think a tiny, tiny taste would hurt, so I swallowed a couple of drops (less than half a teaspoonful, really) and it was indeed delicious.

Later, I got an incredibly painful headache and felt really hungover. Was that just some sort of psychological effect or did I really have a reaction to about half a teaspoon of cider? I originally stopped drinking because of sharp pains in my abdomen, coupled with my skin becoming incredibly itchy all over. Ugh, the doctor diagnosed me with scabies, but after several weeks it wasn't going away, so I decided to be sober for a bit and lo-and-behold, the itching and pains disappeared.

I was thinking of asking my GP for a liver test. Should I bother? I'm pretty busy with work and relationships these days. The stress has caused its own set of problems, actually.
 
If you've had a drink problem in the past it is probably worth a liver test just to make sure everything's ok. Better an afternoon off for a docs appointment now than months on the sick later on down the line if it turns out you do have a problem that could have been identified earlier.

IMO of course.
 
x2theC said:
Im on day 6 also. I'm also bored. But i have a dissertation to have complete in 5 days so it goes with the territory :)

I've got my energy back but I do feel that urge to get buzzed too. Its just alcohol is the only buzz I can get living at home. But I drink to the point of blacking out fifty percent of the time. I actually scoured the cupboards before to find some booze, but its all been locked away. Sad times its come to this.

Me thinks I need to just leave booze out of my life. At least until I work out some mental health issues of my own before I touch a drop again.

Keep going though.

x2thec
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x2theC said:
Fucks sake, I caved tonight in the house on my own and having been sat in front of excel spreadsheets all day! I have only found 3 cans, but still. Kind of disappointed but at the same time it feels like its taken the edge off of the whole week. No excuses, its a slip up, and I should have known better. Not gonna beat myself up about it though.
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I just made it through today and said fuck it. Nine days is pretty good for me though. I broke down and drank a 6 pack of 16 oz beers. That might not sound like a lot to someone who's out of control but it is for me, my head hurts and there is an ache in my liver area? I sure hope that's in my head.

Damn man, alcohol sucks.

I don't think a set back should be a reason to throw away sobriety though.
 
noone1 said:
I just made it through today and said fuck it. Nine days is pretty good for me though. I broke down and drank a 6 pack of 16 oz beers. That might not sound like a lot to someone who's out of control but it is for me, my head hurts and there is an ache in my liver area? I sure hope that's in my head.

Damn man, alcohol sucks.

I don't think a set back should be a reason to throw away sobriety though.
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I am trying to stay sober for the sake of my degree at the moment. My dissertation is in on May 8th by 2pm. I am almost there with it just having to write my introduction and conclusion. But i know the quality of it has suffered from my drinking, not to mention I have had a completely unapproachable tutor who accused me of attempting to cheat by asking her to sign an ethical considerations form post deadline. Despite it not even accounting to my grade. What a knob head!

Anyways I digress.

Alcohol does suck, I hate that there is an off-license less than 100 metres from my house and it's open from 7am 'til 11pm 7 days a week. The booze is overpriced but its still there. If I am honest, If i gotta have a vice I would much rather some weed. But It's not tolerated in my current situation.

Unfortunately, I just found some vodka in my step sisters bedroom and ya know "Bottoms up!" Only enough so she won't notice i've had some, but its only 10 am and I am doing this!!!

Can anyone give me their experience about meds to curb cravings etc or point me in the direction of threads discussing this?

x2thec
 
RaspberryJam said:
The other day I was having a pub-lunch with a friend and he offered me a sip of his cider. It smelled delicious - toffee-apple cider, which personally sounds awesome to me, 'cause I love sweet things. Anyway, I didn't think a tiny, tiny taste would hurt, so I swallowed a couple of drops (less than half a teaspoonful, really) and it was indeed delicious.

Later, I got an incredibly painful headache and felt really hungover. Was that just some sort of psychological effect or did I really have a reaction to about half a teaspoon of cider? I originally stopped drinking because of sharp pains in my abdomen, coupled with my skin becoming incredibly itchy all over. Ugh, the doctor diagnosed me with scabies, but after several weeks it wasn't going away, so I decided to be sober for a bit and lo-and-behold, the itching and pains disappeared.

I was thinking of asking my GP for a liver test. Should I bother? I'm pretty busy with work and relationships these days. The stress has caused its own set of problems, actually.
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I'd get a liver test if I where you. Being itchy and having sharp pains in your upper right abdomen are classic signs of liver disease. As is being intolerant to even small amounts of alcohol. It could just all be in your head but I wouldn't take the risk.

Milk thistle, dandelions and vitamin E are supposed to be very helpful for repairing your liver (granted there has to be something there to work with it's not going to fix late stage cirrhosis)
 
noone1 said:
I'd get a liver test if I where you. Being itchy and having sharp pains in your upper right abdomen are classic signs of liver disease. As is being intolerant to even small amounts of alcohol. It could just all be in your head but I wouldn't take the risk.

Milk thistle, dandelions and vitamin E are supposed to be very helpful for repairing your liver (granted there has to be something there to work with it's not going to fix late stage cirrhosis)
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Currently taking double strength Milk Thistle from a H & B plus one of their super multivitamins. Eating a mainly plant based diet with the odd bit of seafood added in there. But I do think I've done my liver harm. My pain is usually on my left side though?

I just cannot wait for uni to be over with and I can spend a summer skating and riding a bike everywhere!!!! Basically being a kid again!
 
x2theC said:
Currently taking double strength Milk Thistle from a H & B plus one of their super multivitamins. Eating a mainly plant based diet with the odd bit of seafood added in there. But I do think I've done my liver harm. My pain is usually on my left side though?

I just cannot wait for uni to be over with and I can spend a summer skating and riding a bike everywhere!!!! Basically being a kid again!
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Sounds more like pancreatitis or your kidneys if it's on your left side. More likely though it's just an upset stomach from the milk thistle and vitamins. Milk thistle sets off my acid reflux.

Dang sounds like you got way more going on than I do. I don't find myself having a problem with giving up drugs/alcohol at the drop of a hat except then I have to face reality and my social anxiety and the sheer boredom.

Good luck man.
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
Had my first day of no alcohol in about 9 months yesterday (was drinking ~30 uk units a day a few months ago, that's equivalent to 75cl vodka for those who don't know what a uk unit is, on top of 200mg diazepam and a gram of smack IV), drunk a bottle of wine again tonight. Bit disappointed.
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I think this goes without saying but I'll say it anyway. Junk and booze is a fucking deadly mix. For me every time I drink I already know I'm gonna try to get dope...the moment I statr drinking. The last few times I was drinking and doing dope I wound up in the hospital. One minute I'm fine, the next a hospital not even ambulance straight in the hospital getting shot with norcan(came out and did some more shit)the times before that I wound up on the opposite side of the city(and its a big city),not even knowing how I got there and the funny part is I would wind up at places mles from public transportation(fucking scary!!)cause I was on foot. The very last time got arrested in the hood and now sitting on house arrest and posting on BL.
I think alcohol is worse than any shit out there. It's socially accepted and glorified that's what makes it OK. I fucking hate it but always seem to go back to it thinking it's gonna be diff. this time but it's always the same and worse. Fucking %99 of problems in my life started with alcohol.
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
It's benzos for me. Same receptor in the brain though so they have a similar effect.
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Yeah, me too man. Didn't even touch down on that(didn't want to overextend the post)but yeah, I used to do take .5 clonazapan x10(at least), but never saw it as a culprit b/c I never ever felt the effects of benzos no matter how much I took. I just never felt any diff. the worst/best case scenario I would just feel tired off of benzos but never high like other people describe. Nor did I ever feel like benzos were responsible for blackouts but now that you mention it maybe they were. I heard benzos and alcohol are horrible. Idk, alcohol made me do some shit that's completely out of character for me. Imo, alcohol is the worst kind of a substance if you have any kind of issues with other shit cause it lowers your defenses makes you more impulsive and for the lack of of better term makes your brain shit. Me personally I turn into an idiot when I'm drunk. Don't start out that way but always finish at the same place.
 
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