A word of warning concerning Xanax

[Jabberwocky]

You didn't just mention your experience though, you made a judgement on the period of time it takes to get addicted.

The longest I've gone taking them is about a month and a half (every day); I think 6 weeks is the borderline to becoming well and truly dependent on it.

At least it's provoked some imformative discussion, so everyone wins in the end.

Indeed.

 

[nuttynutskin]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it is extremely uncommon to experience withdrawals and rebound anxiety at that point, possible, sure, but definitely atypical.

How do you know? I don't think it's that uncommon at all and have personal experience.

Especially with what you pointed out, two weeks of withdrawals/rebound or worst anxiety from just two weeks of use, I'd say that in particular is highly unlikely.

Well I didn't say it would necessarily last two weeks, but I don't know why you think it would be highly unlikely.

If you were talking months, I wouldn't disagree, but two weeks causing two weeks of withdrawal, I don't know about that.

Again I'm not sure where you keep getting two weeks. I merely said it could cause some withdrawal type symptoms, I never said for how long. But it would be stupid to prescribe someone a benzo for two weeks and then cut them off every month if they were taking it every day. I suspect you don't have much experience with benzos honestly.

 

[nuttynutskin]

Found this old video...



Beginning- 1:16

 

[yteek]

How do you know? I don't think it's that uncommon at all and have personal experience.



Well I didn't say it would necessarily last two weeks, but I don't know why you think it would be highly unlikely.



Again I'm not sure where you keep getting two weeks. I merely said it could cause some withdrawal type symptoms, I never said for how long. But it would be stupid to prescribe someone a benzo for two weeks and then cut them off every month if they were taking it every day. I suspect you don't have much experience with benzos honestly.

I have a damn good bit of personal experience too, actually took them for years and had my own issues and withdrawals with them. Personal experience is cool and all,but it doesn't make neither of us an authority. I don't know for sure, but I know many who have used them daily for two weeks and even longer then and experience no withdrawals.

Even with my personal experience, not really relative to this two week theory and argument, I'm not going to let that generalize the masses as yours should not do the same.

I don't know, but I do assume two weeks generally isn't going to cause withdrawals at all, sure there are exceptions, maybe even a large number, but I'd be willing to say, I haven't obviously done a controlled study, but I think that it could quite possibly align with most/majority doing fine. I'm talking relatively mild dosing for two weeks, not like 4 bars in day, but even then I'd push my luck to saying many getting off without side effects or withdrawal.

 

[nuttynutskin]

I don't know, but I do assume two weeks generally isn't going to cause withdrawals at all, sure there are exceptions, maybe even a large number, but I'd be willing to say, I haven't obviously done a controlled study, but I think that it could quite possibly align with most/majority doing fine. I'm talking relatively mild dosing for two weeks, not like 4 bars in day, but even then I'd push my luck to saying many getting off without side effects or withdrawal.

I think it's better to err on the side of caution when using benzos, and if someone read what you wrote and thought it would be ok to take a moderately high dose for two weeks then stop I think they would be in for a rude awakening. Some people may be more prone than others, but overall a benzo tolerance is pretty easy to develop in no time.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

There's a reason the medical text books say 2-4 weeks as a timeline for prescribing, it's because that is the point at which a medical dosage will start causing the onset of withdrawal symptoms.

If you are going above a medical dosage (as most people who are using them recreationally are), it can happen sonner than that, especially if you've been fucking with your GABA receptors by getting addicted to GABAergic drugs in the past.

End of story really.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

There's a reason the medical text books say 2-4 weeks as a timeline for prescribing, it's because that is the point at which a medical dosage will start causing the onset of withdrawal symptoms.

If you are going above a medical dosage (as most people who are using them recreationally are), it can happen sonner than that, especially if you've been fucking with your GABA receptors by getting addicted to GABAergic drugs in the past.

On a site concerned with harm reduction the discussion should be aimed at keeping people safe from addiction and erring on the side of caution.

End of story really.

 

[yteek]

There's a reason the medical text books say 2-4 weeks as a timeline for prescribing, it's because that is the point at which a medical dosage will start causing the onset of withdrawal symptoms.

If you are going above a medical dosage (as most people who are using them recreationally are), it can happen sonner than that, especially if you've been fucking with your GABA receptors by getting addicted to GABAergic drugs in the past.

On a site concerned with harm reduction the discussion should be aimed at keeping people safe from addiction and erring on the side of caution.

End of story really.

I don't think I or really any one else was advocating unsafe use of benzos.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

Did I say or even imply you were?

 

[yteek]

Did I say or even imply you were?

Well, it seemed that you were echoing the response of the other poster replying to me, so yeah the implication seemed to be that.

Not that big of deal, nothing personal, but it could be read that way.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

I think the answer you're looking for is no.

If someone else claimed you were advocating unsafe use of benzos it's got nothing to do with me.

The only thing I've had issue with in this thread is the idea that six weeks is the borderline point for continuos alprazolam use because someone can easily look at that statement and just assume it's correct when all the evidence suggests that by that stage most people are well past the point of borderline dependency.