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Yes indeed. :)

Regarding the reading... I've heard 2C-C is good for reading. I've found DOC to also be good for reading, but you have to wait til the plateau which is like 8 hours in or so. Low-dose DOC can be good for it too, but the first few hours can still be a little scattered.
 
I would in general too.

Hey, welcome to PD Social! :) I think I haven't seen you post here before, but to be honest this thread is my favorite part of PD, I hope you stick around, it's more fun when more people participate. This thread is the reason why a few of my close real life friends are people I met on Bluelight.
 
The DOC plateau stage is kinda similar to adderall except very calm and comfortable, it's like an endless energy that does not make you feel stimulated, just really on top of things. That's why I like to read on the DOC plateau. But in reality, I like to do anything on the DOC plateau, go to work, read, hike, think, anything.
 
Speed+alcohol..wicked combo

We are only here briefly, and in this moment I want to allow myself joy.
 
I'm gonna man up and take my 2mgs of DOC any day now. My worry is that I'm going to be stuck at home all day, because that is my life these days. I don't want to get all cooped up. I could go for a bike ride but I'm really hoping that the DOC unleashes a creative beast from deep within me and that I can tear through like two new drawings or make an actual song.
 
Hey everyone, hope y'all are having a great Friday so far.

I posted this in the main 5-mapb thread, but feel I'll get a better answer here, considering the intelligence of the average PD poster.

Apparently 5-mapb + 4-ho-met + 2-fma is the closest we've found to replicating the MDMA experience. The 2-fma's purpose being making up for the lack of dopamine and norepinephrine (release, agonism, ?). However, I can't source that. Would Adderall likely add to the combo in the same way?
 
^ do you mean adderall instead of 2-FMA? It certainly wouldn't be preferable. Adderall is actually 4 types of amphetamines, and most of it is stuff that will only increase peripheral side effects. It's a pretty dirty stimulant in all honesty. The fluorinated amphetamines seem to have quite a bit more serotonergic action as well, so it likely wouldn't be anywhere near as euphoric.

I would expect less euphoria and increased side effects.
 
I am not hear much at all, but stopped by tonight and read these last two pages. It's been a long time since I posted in social. Xorkoth, I know I don't know you but will send all positive vibes your way on Sat. I remember being on poppy tea for years starting in 1996. It was a hard kick. Now it is just kratom which for me is a few steps in the right direction. I wish I had ibogaine back then though. I am going to research it more and maybe read back a few pages on this social thread. But the best to you and hopefully the outcome gives you the centeredness and stability you are seeking when it comes to opiates and life. It is interesting, I may have to come back and read. :)

I have some relatives in Canada so maybe Ibogaine is in my future too. I had always been interested but not sure I bought into the fact that it can halt withdrawal symptoms as well as provide a trip until some current info came out. And I trust amanitadine's knowledge on the subject. :)

I know I am an opiate addict that doesn't always have to be on opiates. So I sort of made peace with that long ago. I think that's the only way it would work with me. I was tormented years ago when I realized I was an addict (not junkie, because I believe the difference between a junkie and addict is an addict is simply addicted, but a junkie steals and theives for dope) Just my little compartmentalizing. I was a junkie very early on (and did time over it), but with poppy tea and the easy availability I didn't have the need to steal so my bad karma was very low. I learned it was the availability that is the biggest problem with opiates. Give people them and they can survive without hustling until they want to get off of them.
 
Thorns Have Roses said:
I think I owe a more comprehensive explanation for my vacation. In no particular order:

1. BL has become massive time sink (though arguing with folks in some of the threads has been useful for my intellectual development).
2. I am an INTJ that spent 6 years trying to be an ISFP. Inability to readily perceive and well treat others emotionally left me alienated, destroyed what sense of identity I had, and caused my inferiority complex to return with a vengeance.

I can now return to being me, and I will not concern myself with things I do not understand, and concern myself with what is true and useful. Love is duty to me, and that love is cruel. I will no longer pretend that it is otherwise,* or that mine is inferior to the sentimental kindness of papier mâché people. However, that leaves me ill befit the ethos of this thread, if not this subforum. Active participation would be toxic to me, if no one else.

Will post a few things soonish out of gratitude. In my own way.

*My reaction when my crudeness was met with scorn.
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I know that I would certainly like to hear more from you. As I've said before, whilst I don't always agree with your perspective, it is extremely refreshing at times. But you have to do what you need to do.

The thing that hit me about your earlier remarks was the sensation of shock that a person I do value would try and negate my own feelings for no actual reason I could see. I was stoned, and reading your post, and appreciating your kindness when the last part of it just shocked the shit out of me- I did not expect it. But, I still disagree with your perspective on this matter- all life is equally amazing to me- though I don't actually care what you think on this issue. That is not meant to be rude, but I try and cultivate a certain detachment from all bullshit and negativity, or at least, all excessively subjective delusions.

I liked your description of papier mache people; I could describe myself in that way, because I change constantly. I just now try and NOT do the typical early-twenties nonsense of continuously trying to cement an internal identity, and just allow myself to naturally and spontaneously evolve.

All you need is love is a great sentiment but only true on one relatively minor front. Humans, life, earth needs more then just a transient and potentially non-existent emotion. But still, love is certainly not cruel- cruelty is cruelty, love is simply not. Sometimes, trying to help and protect someone (or something) can be cruel- having my dog-friend Henry euthanized could be seen as cruel- who am I to take the cluster of atoms I named Henry's only ever existence in that form and stop it?- but I loved him and had to do that to him, BECAUSE he trusted me- no, not trust; certainty- he absolutely knew in his core, in the place where his instincts emerged, that I would help him and protect him. It wasn't with love that I had him sent on, but with hard ethical purity! :D The love was what existed within and between everything else.

FWIW, I am pretty high :):)

Offerrings of papier mache love to all- build on it what you will! :D <3
 
willow11 said:
who am I to take the cluster of atoms I named Henry's only ever existence in that form and stop it?- but I loved him and had to do that to him, BECAUSE he trusted me- no, not trust; certainty- he absolutely knew in his core, in the place where his instincts emerged, that I would help him and protect him. It wasn't with love that I had him sent on, but with hard ethical purity! :D The love was what existed within and between everything else.
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That made me tear up.

I don't know. I guess I just got a thing for dogs. Label it what you will.
 
just finished with my first week of work

zomg am i sore

glad its the weekend :)

i might go for a combo low-dose DOC + low-dose DXM experience tomorrow (depending on how i feel)
 
so what would you guys classify as a low dose DOC ? for me thats barely threshold territory, somewhere around 1mg...
its true that it makes for good reading, but the dose has to be juuust right so none of the body tension rears its head in ...
 
I'm starting my 20-day-sobriety challenge next month haha. Interesting, shouldnt be that hard.. :D I have this university entrance exam coming up so I really need this to get my brain and memory functioning the best possible way when the exam takes place. And a little rest to the receptors is always good
 
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kingme said:
so what would you guys classify as a low dose DOC ? for me thats barely threshold territory, somewhere around 1mg...
its true that it makes for good reading, but the dose has to be juuust right so none of the body tension rears its head in ...
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for my DXM+DOC combo tonight i'm going to take about 1.5mg

for reading 1mg would probably be better. maybe even a tad less.

xammy said:
I'm starting my 20-day-sobriety challenge next month haha. Interesting, shouldnt be that hard.. :D I have this university entrance exam coming up so I really need this to get my brain and memory functioning the best possible way when the exam takes place. And a little rest to the receptors is always good
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godspeed, man :) don't forget about us over those 20 days! =p
 
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