Firstly, I was a bit pissed last night (on Scotch at that which always makes me kinda stroppy so combined with drunkenness in general that's double strop) so was perhaps a bit short and dismissive rather than putting any actual content behind my issues with meph. Alcohol being another of those drugs I never have a good word to say about that nobody seems to have any issue with incidentally.
I do take the point about gaining a shitload of new members - many discovering drugs and HR for the very first time - as being a positive change however irritating I found it at the time. The point you (SHM) made about the change in the drug market as a whole is a very interesting one and do think one of some significant significance. There's no doubt that mephedrone changed the drugs scene and also the way drugs are sold and marketed. These are changes I'm all in favour of - particularly when it brings people new to drugs online to check forums like BL where they can hopefully learn useful stuff they probably wouldn't do "on the street". I also take the point (and actually made it myself) that I played up the suggested risks over and above what was actually known - essentially speculation but that speculation was based on what chemistry bods were more or less uniformly warning about and given HR focus and massive imbalance in favour of people using mephedrone in utterly
insane amounts (there were people taking an ounce a day at the height of it - admittedly only right on the fringes but people were not even close to using sensibly) it seemed appropriate at the time. In hindsight I would not have approached things in that way but that's hindsight and I can't change what I said in the past.
I am far more balanced in what I say about mephedrone now. I don't overstate health risks (I may still mention there have been concerns but I see nothing wrong in that cos it's true and we really don't know longterm effects yet). I've mentioned several times that there have been instances where I could get an idea of what people liked about it so much but I can't pretend to share in that liking to anything like the extent most who frequent this thread do. I do not warn or advise people not to take it and actually don't often talk about it at all cos it's not such a big deal now - it's not all that's spoken about in every thread now - it's just another drug now and one of several that I don't particularly like and don't enjoy being in the company of those who are on it usually. I have moderated myself greatly on the whole mephedrone thing - do you think I should pretend to like it or should I not be allowed to say anything at all about it unless it's positive?
I never boarded the Pirate ship shammy, and don't think I was on here much at the height of the piracy.
I get the impression you're saying it was like being in a conversation in a room full of coke fiends - everyone waiting till the other person finishes the fuck up talking so they can say their piece.. something like that?
Precisely only with that added
faux empathy that gets right on my tits with meph. It
almost sounds like empathy but by the end of the sentence it's managed to turn into yet another paean on how
amazing this batch of meph is and how much it hurts the nose and how big the line was and how big are other people's lines and do they think their meph is as
amazing as the last meph they had and does it hurt the nose as much as the last bit of meph they had cos it really hurts the nose this batch but it's so
amazing isn't it? so much better than the last batch which was
amazing too but not quite as
amazing and it might have been more sore on the nose but it might not be cos this batch is really sore on the nose... For. Months.
Meph is like the ring in Lord of the Rings and a good sesh can leave you feeling like Gollum. My precioussssssssss...