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^ ditto. And the whole HCl/HBr salt thing complicates matters more.....

I always have introduced folks to 2C-B at around 25mg of the HCl, or 30mg of the HBr.....gets yr feet wet, but no chance of drowning....

Xork-glad to hear it man. The stars are aligning ;) I'm looking forward to the TR. Ibogaine alone is a grade A psychedelic....but the fact that it can give one the leg up to get out of debilitating opioid addictions is the iciest icing on the cake. Amazing stuff. Frankly I'm rather baffled that it took me two decades to finally get around to taking the stuff......people describe it as harrowing, exhausting, yada yada....but it really is just a *choice* psychedelic. Quite baffling frankly, how it does what it does. Makes me question my objective analytical viewpoint of the world at times. It is just too perfect....couldnt have been designed better, hits every receptor it needs to, in exactly the propensity required. Marveluster! I plan to use it again for strictly entheogenic reasons...it is class.....wholly unique, in a league of it's own...

Beautiful day out here....plowed my fields.....was feeling quite happy with myself after a 10mg IM shot of 3-MeO PCP, driving the tractor, headphones blaring Autechre/Klaus Schultze/Unwound/Radiohead......I had the idea that most likely I am the only farmer EVER in the world to do such a combo......self satisfied? Yes. Smug? Maybe. But man, the rich loamy earth coming up, the ducks flying around, my sheep out on pasture, and a greenhouse bursting with 5000 starts......felt good. Can't argue with producing healthy food, it just feels right :) Throw in a little 3-MeO Angel Dust induced megalomania and you have a recipe for a good day!
 
^ I lol'd visualizing you banging your head after that shot just plowing around on a big tractor out in the middle of no where
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morninggloryseed said:
A month ago Monday..which was when I had the ibogaine.

I had my last dose the day of Ibogaine 2014. For ibogaine 2013, I had no opiates for a month prior to Ibogaine.

Ibogaine 2013, no PAWS, felt 100% in a few days, 150% in a few weeks, and 200% for a couple months before I hit baseline again.

Ibogaine 2014, it really did not seem to work very well at first and I required booster dosages, and some visits from friends and lovers till I got baseline...sometime last week...nearly 3 weeks post ibogaine.
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Thanks for the rundown
I hope you can remain abstinent this time day by day, cause like you said even with how much the ibo helps you can't just say I'm never gonna do opiates ever again

But you sound pretty optimistic and positive so that's awesome
Keep that up, re kindle old or find new hobbies, find a little girly you can flirt with, or anything like that will help keep you busy moving forward

I wish you tons of luck mgs
Also lots of luck and warm loving karma energy pointed in Xorky's direction since he'll be following the path you've taken soon

Just the natural content and normal happiness feels so fucking good to not have to wake up every morning crippling sick and relying on a chemical just to be well/numb for the day

You'll have a choice again, you only have one choice strung out but when you're not and you can wake up and have an endless amount of choices for yourself it's a great feeling to have again
 
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^ ditto. And the whole HCl/HBr salt thing complicates matters more.....

I always have introduced folks to 2C-B at around 25mg of the HCl, or 30mg of the HBr.....gets yr feet wet, but no chance of drowning....

Xork-glad to hear it man. The stars are aligning ;) I'm looking forward to the TR. Ibogaine alone is a grade A psychedelic....but the fact that it can give one the leg up to get out of debilitating opioid addictions is the iciest icing on the cake. Amazing stuff. Frankly I'm rather baffled that it took me two decades to finally get around to taking the stuff......people describe it as harrowing, exhausting, yada yada....but it really is just a *choice* psychedelic. Quite baffling frankly, how it does what it does. Makes me question my objective analytical viewpoint of the world at times. It is just too perfect....couldnt have been designed better, hits every receptor it needs to, in exactly the propensity required. Marveluster! I plan to use it again for strictly entheogenic reasons...it is class.....wholly unique, in a league of it's own...

Beautiful day out here....plowed my fields.....was feeling quite happy with myself after a 10mg IM shot of 3-MeO PCP, driving the tractor, headphones blaring Autechre/Klaus Schultze/Unwound/Radiohead......I had the idea that most likely I am the only farmer EVER in the world to do such a combo......self satisfied? Yes. Smug? Maybe. But man, the rich loamy earth coming up, the ducks flying around, my sheep out on pasture, and a greenhouse bursting with 5000 starts......felt good. Can't argue with producing healthy food, it just feels right :) Throw in a little 3-MeO Angel Dust induced megalomania and you have a recipe for a good day!
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I recently had the realization that I shouldn't be as scared as I am. Most people in the world describe any strong psychedelic experience the way they tend to describe ibogaine. I think most people who have used ibogaine for addictions probably don't have much experience with psychedelics, whereas I have been to many an extreme psychedelic state. I am properly nervous about it, but I kind of can't wait now. :) And just in time, I'm glad I got my head in order about it because MANY times in the past few weeks, I have almost backed out.

Sounds like a great day. :) If I hadn't had to work I would have spent the day outside, it's absolutely gorgeous. I am about to leave to go to the art market, which is outdoors. I am slightly manic from phenibut (a good aid to withdrawal) so likely I will talk peoples' ears off. Usually in withdrawal the thought of going to the market makes me nervous as hell, but I am looking forward to it. :)

Saturday I think I will wake up in the morning, drop my cats off at boarding (I am going to board them until I am fit to pick them up, because otherwise they will be constantly trying to make me get up and play with them, plus I won't be able to feed them when I'm incapacitated). Then I will go up to my favorite nearby nature/mountain spot and spend a couple of hours in solitude, communing, and then I'll head over to our friend Delsyd's place (or have him come to mine, I haven't decided yet) and smoke a little, relax, talk, and then ingest the long-awaited sacrament.
 
Xorkoth said:
Hey PD, it's so great how my withdrawal is so minor. I am convinced my body knows there is a light at the end of the tunnel on Saturday. :)



For some people 27mg is a pretty weak dose... the first time I ever took 2C-B I took 25mg, and I hadn't taken many psychedelics yet, and it was quite weak (though nice).
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I'd have to question the potency of that, then... to be fair though, even in high doses 2C-B isn't that "strong". It's much more of a "background chem" as I like to call them, in that you can take a dose and go about your day as you normally would. I found it to be most exceptional when combined with other drugs. It has a lot to offer on it's own, but something like MXE will make up for anything that 2C-B lacks
 
Laika said:
Lol I'd like to see someone try to function at their job on 2c-b
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I used to go rock climbing on 2C-B.....man, you could see exactly what handholds to go for....in technicolor! I find it a really functional fun psychedelic....it is just so somatic. I tried it with caving (my new love the past coupla years) and the enhanced vision in the dark was great...as were the triply drippy cave formations.....but wet and cold is wet and cold.....and wet and cold and psychedelics ain't my thang. Maybe when I go caving in Tennessee or Mexico heheheh...

Xork, you got the right attitude man, the right plan, and you should be excited. As such a conneisseur, you'll be quite smitten. Plus, the freedom that Bill mentions is even better....hard to beat really.I ain't out of the woods yet....two Ibo sessions in two months, but I'm the farthest I've been from opioids (by choice...cages don't count!) in many, many years. That alone is psychedelic <3

Opioids are the antithesis of psychedelia, and the fact that our country is getting devoured and ravaged by them is telling. Makes my heart hurt.....
 
Man, I haven't been so phenibutted in a long time... I remember this feeling well. It's slightly uncomfortable physically and slightly pleasant, and it basically makes me manic and I move constantly (partly to work through the weird body feeling). I think I had slightly too much, I had been taking 1.8 grams whenever I took it and this time I took 2.4 grams and it went from feeling super subtle to feeling almost too strong. Hard to dose right, that one is. I went to the market and talked talked talked.... :D

I just got off the phone with my ex, it was nice, found out how her family is doing, and how she's doing. She sounds pretty good. It's so weird not being part of that anymore, her family has been my family for many years. My nephew was there and I heard him talking (he's 2), I really miss him, we've been super close since he was born, the first time I met him his jaw dropped and he stared at me piercingly for like 5 minutes straight, and then just held his arms out to me to hold him.

Folley said:
I'd have to question the potency of that, then... to be fair though, even in high doses 2C-B isn't that "strong". It's much more of a "background chem" as I like to call them, in that you can take a dose and go about your day as you normally would. I found it to be most exceptional when combined with other drugs. It has a lot to offer on it's own, but something like MXE will make up for anything that 2C-B lacks
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Nah, it was 2C-B from the top 2C-B vendor at the time (if any of you remember when someone started selling 2C-B maybe back in 06). I know multiple people who don't get much from 25mg.

Laika said:
Lol I'd like to see someone try to function at their job on 2c-b
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Not that I'm exactly proud of this but when I used to trip multiple times a week I would often take DOC or AMT before going to work, when I woke up in the morning... I functioned better than normal on either one as they are both very enabling (for me anyway)... though I think it was mostly because I would get super motivated, instead of being bored. Whenever I'd go on AMT I was the star of the office because it makes me very gregarious. I've taken a bunch of different psychedelics at work, including 2C-B. Man I was crazy for a couple of years there.

amanitadine said:
Xork, you got the right attitude man, the right plan, and you should be excited. As such a conneisseur, you'll be quite smitten. Plus, the freedom that Bill mentions is even better....hard to beat really.I ain't out of the woods yet....two Ibo sessions in two months, but I'm the farthest I've been from opioids (by choice...cages don't count!) in many, many years. That alone is psychedelic <3

Opioids are the antithesis of psychedelia, and the fact that our country is getting devoured and ravaged by them is telling. Makes my heart hurt.....
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Yeah, it's very weird how many trippers end up on opiates (not to mention all the other people on them of course). It really is the antithesis of psychedelia. It's scary how many people are opiate addicts because as we all know, an opiate addict in withdrawal will do about anything they can to feel better. Scary to think how many people out there are in that situation.
 
Ah, finally the phenibut is starting to die down a bit. I hadn't felt the weird side-effects of too much phenibut in a long time. It makes my joints hurt and makes my body feel weirdly speedy in this way that makes me constantly want to flail my limbs... it's a weird feeling. Emotionally I feel great though, and almost annoying chatty. :)
 
You guys have made it pretty sure that I stay away from opiates :)

Anyway i wrote a month or two ago that there is no ketamine around and i have never seen it. Well, now it popped out of nowhere and i acquired 200mg. That should send me into the k hole pretty easily huh? I was also thinking of combining some with mdma.. Im excited !
 
2c-b is truly a special gem and I'm so glad I stocked up on in. I'm pretty sure I got the HCl first two times I had it 8 years ago since only 16mgs gave me a good trip. The two batches I have right now are HBr.

I'm planning to maybe do 2c-t2 again some time soon. It feels like all the best aspects of lsd, 2c-b, and mdma all rolled into one beautiful molecule. I usually prefer tripping alone these days but found this to be a great social drug. Last time I did it was when me and atara first met up 2 or 3 years ago.
 
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Help?!?! said:
I finally learned to accept myself this weekend. Am sort to all of you by remaining ambigious, thought thanks and regards to you all. I final realized what true grace and help is. As my final gb I was going to leave this account a mystery forever , only leaving behind pretty much.....this account as my leacgy for razing me so hard from age one till this day, but then it hit me with MGS story and others. I was right along conquering the world at at any age doesn't matter as long as you've conquered yourself. I learned I am help?!?!? As we all are, I am the orginial. I still feel empty though I mean did my feelings ever reach any of you beside Lakia? It took seeing him being as more brillant than me while laying it out there on the line to extend a helping hand to hand to me. This is all defeating as is is brillant, anyone intersted in me knowing of needing the feeling of help ever does please reach out to me. I've expended a lot of my energy on others, so there isn't much remaining, but I'll give what I have left anyone who needs it. Please feel free, your stories, your, anything, please feel free. Thanks, for listening , and it only took a second to erite.
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Much Love Help?!?!?


I hope you are smilimg right now
 
I think I owe a more comprehensive explanation for my vacation. In no particular order:

1. BL has become massive time sink (though arguing with folks in some of the threads has been useful for my intellectual development).
2. I am an INTJ that spent 6 years trying to be an ISFP. Inability to readily perceive and well treat others emotionally left me alienated, destroyed what sense of identity I had, and caused my inferiority complex to return with a vengeance.

I can now return to being me, and I will not concern myself with things I do not understand, and concern myself with what is true and useful. Love is duty to me, and that love is cruel. I will no longer pretend that it is otherwise,* or that mine is inferior to the sentimental kindness of papier mâché people. However, that leaves me ill befit the ethos of this thread, if not this subforum. Active participation would be toxic to me, if no one else.

Will post a few things soonish out of gratitude. In my own way.

*My reaction when my crudeness was met with scorn.
 
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Hey NKB, sorry I reacted strongly, I just, well, reacted. I hope you don't stay gone for good, I like reading your pos

xammy said:
You guys have made it pretty sure that I stay away from opiates :)
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You have no idea how pleased I am about that. :)

So... it's officially a miracle. I feel exactly like I felt last time I cleared acute withdrawal when I woke up this morning. My legs are calm, I'm in a good mood, no muscle pain, and I'm not the slightest bit cold. It doesn't even make sense considering I had my last dose of poppy tea 5 days ago (when the withdrawal lasts at least a week and a half if not longer - and if I had the dose 5 days ago that means 3 days ago this withdrawal started) and I've been having kratom for the last couple of days when it was getting bad. And the whole process even the last few days has been super mild. But not a week before this I tried to stop and it was so bad I couldn't stand it. It's like the ibogaine is pre-working through my imagination or something (note I am not saying that's what's actually happening, I'm just pretty incredulous). I honestly don't know how to explain it though, this has never happened before. But it sure is good to happen now because by all accounts if I'm not actively withdrawing when I take it, it will work better.

:) :)

I feel fully good today!
 
^ awesome Xork, always good to hear! This means the Ibo will have less acute work to do in terms of withdrawals, and can focus on fixing you;) good timing I daresay! I am excited for your adventure tomorrow, you'll be in my thoughts <3

NKB- don't stay away too long. Do what ya gotta do, 'tis the priority after all, but you are one of a kind and I really enjoy your contributions to the forum. Good luck man, I'm trying to fix myself too....have been for about 15-20 years but actually maybe making real headway this time. Strangely, the less drugs I do, the better I feel :D Whoda thunk?? ;)
 
Thanks buddy, yeah that's my thought too, I was bummed earlier this week because I failed to quit for 2 weeks prior like I wanted to, in fact on Sunday I took poppy tea. So I'm totally amazed and grateful that somehow this happened.

As the day has gone on I don't feel 100% better, I feel I'd say 90% better, my nose is ever so slightly runny now and I have a bit of limb energy but it really feels like I've been clean about twice as long as I have, AND that I wasn't using kratom for the last 3 days (I haven't used it today nor will I again).

I am also going to eat as much as I can today and tomorrow morning, I haven't been eating much due to withdrawal (and since I've been yo-yoing for a long time I have lost weight and I don't have any extra body weight to spare). And sleep well tonight. Any other recommendations? I haven't actually planned out a trip in quite a while.
 
hello all!

got a question here, and i dint want to resurrect a 2 year old thread. anyone got any tips for something to enhance reading (literature)?
nothing too visual of course, but so far the best i could come up with was a mild stimulant to maintain focus, but those just seem to suck up imagination as well, making reading into a chore...
 
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