Gibberings CLXIII - Up All Night Shooting Cheese Balls

[Chatative]

So, you're saying dream about opening Christmas presents is more strange than dreaming about a party at my Parent's house with folk from School, normal for a while, then I remember people were climbing on the roof & jumping off the house, so I went to have a go & climbed to the top of my house, which was more like a skyscraper by this point & I jumped off, bounced off the ground, which was spongy, & went back to do it again. Can't remember much else, but there were other strange happenings.

I often find that my dreams start normal, in place I recognise but then they transform in strange ways yet still feel like the place it's meant to be.

 

[ColtDan]

Beautiful weather down here today, loves it

 

[Uncle Robert]

So, you're saying

Pretty much dreams are normally always strange. One that sticks in my memory from a long time ago is when I dreamt about getting ready for school in a completely normal and mundane way.

It's like if you went on holiday to south america and visited a remote uncontacted tribe only to see your mate Dave there sitting in one of the huts.

 

[Chatative]

Beautiful weather down here today, loves it

Sun was out briefly here... it's a bit windy though so my flat is cold. Heating on now!

It's like if you went on holiday to south america and visited a remote uncontacted tribe only to see your mate Dave there sitting in one of the huts.

That's what I meant by things seeming familiar when they aren't. You would see Dave & not even be surprised he was there.

 

[Shambles]

A'ternoon, all

Laaaaarvely sunny day out. Spring seems to have properly sprung at last.

More people dreaming of BLers? We ought to start charging royalties or summat. It's contagious.

 

[swampdragon]

Afternoon Shambly.. tis indeed, the sun has finally come out in time for lunch. And as for peace/quiet/joints, sadly not aa I've moved back in with my parents for a bit. Shall be an experience indeed.

 

[Raasyvibe]

And if we're going to be silly, everything you've learnt from your books came externally. Unless you swallowed it which I suppose you have to some degree.

We'll agree to disagree I think.. on the photos to, mine are better

I like to make sense of things myself, but the bible comes good as a comparison guide to my thoughts. I will coalesce common sense, logic, thought and reason with what is presented in scripture - I see it as a confirmation to my thoughts, not a guide to blindly follow. For instance, my own perspective above is my own work, my own finding and thoughts... But I will look to scripture and I see those thoughts echoed:

NSFW:

Then a strong angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “So will Babylon, the great city, be thrown down with violence, and will not be found any longer. “And the sound of harpists and musicians and flute-players and trumpeters will not be heard in you any longer; and no craftsman of any craft will be found in you any longer; and the sound of a mill will not be heard in you any longer; and the light of a lamp will not shine in you any longer; and the voice of the bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your *sorcery." (Revelation 18:21-23)

*[sorcery is believed to refer to psych's here]

 

[Shambles]

Afternoon Shambly.. tis indeed, the sun has finally come out in time for lunch. And as for peace/quiet/joints, sadly not aa I've moved back in with my parents for a bit. Shall be an experience indeed.

Ha! Will certainly be an experience

I had to move back in with MamaSham and a clutch of younger brothers (unfeasibly irritating stepfather had moved on - small mercies and all that) when I was 27-28. Really not a good age to be living at home. Even more so when recovering from years of addiction and less than stable. I get on fine with my mother as long as we don't see much of each other - living under the same roof is just a nightmare for all concerned. We're really very similar in many ways (something I pointed out to her which she found laughable (which is to be expected when two superiority complexes clash) but is painfully obvious to me) and that really doesn't work out too well. Neither of us are competitive in general but do seem to compete with each other in quite bizarre ways. Not entirely healthy ways either - not good for the head. It's odd that she doesn't see or accept there is so much similarity cos it really is very apparent. I think it's largely cos she disapproves quite severely of more or less everything I have ever done - it's almost like at each stage of life we took opposite directions and she doesn't like to catch a glimpse of the other way things could've gone. Is how I see it anyway.

Do you get along well with family at home? I presume so as moved back in and going sailing together. It's quite the challenge to stay on good terms living at home as an adult but cooped up together on a boat would likely result in mass-murder and/or suicide if my family tried such a thing :D

 

[Uncle Robert]

More people dreaming of BLers? We ought to start charging royalties or summat. It's contagious.

You looked like this guy. Any resemblance?

Afternoon Shambly.. tis indeed, the sun has finally come out in time for lunch. And as for peace/quiet/joints, sadly not aa I've moved back in with my parents for a bit. Shall be an experience indeed.

You ditched the group to go have an eye test.. so.. not impressed with dream version Swampy.

The only other person I remember to feature was Sam, who was the most normal of the lot. Proof dreams are strange :D?

 

[swampdragon]

Teheh, sorry Bob, that was rather boring of me! Weirdly I did have an eye test last week.. don't think I mentioned it, though. My Eadd dreams are usually more fun!

And am not really sure how I'll get on with the parents.. hopefully we'll give each other enough space that murder/suicide doesn't happen, but will see! I've had some awful arguments with my dad in the past, but hopefully I'm more tolerant these days..

 

[Chatative]

Laaaaarvely sunny day out. Spring seems to have properly sprung at last.

Afternoon Shambly.. tis indeed, the sun has finally come out in time for lunch. And as for peace/quiet/joints, sadly not aa I've moved back in with my parents for a bit. Shall be an experience indeed.

I moved back in with my folks for a Summer... by the end of it I was going crazy. I hate having to follow someone else's routine. You take for granted things like choosing what & when to eat... although it is nice getting home cooking on occasion :D

It does seem like spring has come, I'm just over the cold I've had the past week and bit so wasn't up to running but decided to go for a walk. It was nice soaking up some rays even if it wasn't exceptionally warm.

Made my way over to one of the parks near me:

^That's probably my favourite park, although there is another one down by the River that has this little hidden beach tucked in beside a cliff... my friend & I named it 'Bong Beach' when we discovered it... we were toking up that day.

 

[Uncle Robert]

Teheh, sorry Bob, that was rather boring of me! Weirdly I did have an eye test last week.. don't think I mentioned it, though.

And am not really sure how I'll get on with the parents.. hopefully we'll give each other enough space that murder/suicide doesn't happen, but will see! I've had some awful arguments with my dad in the past, but hopefully I'm more tolerant these days..

I think the trick to living with parents when you're older is to help out as much as you can, and treat them as normal adults not just parents. See them as housemates that pay your rent for you.

 

[Shambles]

Nice pix, Chat. I rather miss parks. It's kinda odd that there's countryside all around me - and quite stunning countryside at that - but I do miss having a local park. They tend to be less steep for a start.

You looked like this guy. Any resemblance?

*shudders*

Thankfully not. I'm not sure if I'm mildly offended your dreamstate has such low opinion of me :D

My Eadd dreams are usually more fun!

Fnarr, etc.

That aside, space is essential living with family as an adult I'd say. In my case the amount of space required is almost precisely the length of one end of town to t'other. Which is handily enough exactly the case.

 

[ColtDan]

I learnt about true love; what being in love was really about... how I can then relate to God who is love. And lot's more hippy-crap like that...

But all this knowledge wasn't discovered by me. It wasn't my effort and energy yielding these answers. I was in effect cheating my own development - and as a person, I felt I was becoming weaker for it.

when I see you having to take acid to make you see the way, it comes across as incredibly weak. Like you're incapable. You cannot find a way... so are letting the acid do the work for you.

Who was it discovered by then?

Because a drug can trigger insight, revelations, epiphanies, you think that makes somebody weaker?

You're an incredibly naive bellend.

 

[ScotchMist]

If you were paying attention, Mr Junglechops, I had recently said:


So when I see you having to take acid to make you see the way, it comes across as incredibly weak. Like you're incapable. You cannot find a way... so are letting the acid do the work for you.

This is not a personal attack on you. You obviously have valid reason to take acid, or maybe your experience is different to my own...

"Junglechops"???

If you'd of been paying attention I said in the morning, "off out for some "FUN and reflection".... I do that sometimes, ya know, have fun on drugs...

I always take something away from trips, whether ive just had it for laughs or therapeutic reasons. Yesterday was the former.

I dont "have" to take acid to resolve problems, id be taking acid everyday of the week if that were the case. For someone who's never taken acid you seem to think you know a lot.... You do realise it wears off Raas, then once it has I can use my more than capable brain and emotions to reflect on it, and maybe implement whatever it maybe in to my life. Or disregard it because it was a crazy drug nonsense...

Theres no cheating going on in my personal growth, im not judgemental for one, something you seem to be growing into quite nicely. Well done Raas, good on ya.

You say its not a personal attack but if you're honest, it is, I only have to so much as mention acid and you're on the case about how im weak or incapable of solving and resolving personal problems without the aid of drugs.

You're pretty rude Raas and most definitely ignorant.

I wish I had time to reply properly as you've got right on my tits....








I still likes you though Raas...

 

[Shambles]

It is somewhat ironic that somebody so keen on personal development and so vocal about his opinion of others' personal development manages to maintain such a distinct lack of sensitivity and understanding. Not sure of how good an advert for abstinence-based personal development that is really.

 

[Chatative]

I would tend to disagree about the use of drugs as an 'aid' to help you work through things, or as a means of creativity, being bad. That's all they are, an aid... sure it might be wrong to rely on them but it doesn't reflect negatively on those who choose to use them in moderation for such. Everyone is free to make their own choices & you should not judge them for doing so.

Also, certain drugs can be real eye openers & cause you to make connections you never would have otherwise.

I am probably a psychonaut at heart though... I just lost my way a little bit with Meph. 8)

 

[Sammy G]

The only other person I remember to feature was Sam, who was the most normal of the lot. Proof dreams are strange :D?

Whatcha trying to say?

 

[Shambles]

I know I am a better person for having used psychedelics in particular. Also MDMA. Other drugs to a far lesser extent but do still feel I've learnt valuable lessons from many - if not all - of my drug experiences. The most valuable ones being ones that have been put into place whether deliberately or have simply been absorbed osmotically. Obviously I can't know what I would have been like if I'd never had these experiences but I really do think I've gained a great deal from them - psyches and MDMA especially so - cos I can see the differences in myself and know from whence they came. I doubt I would've learnt quite the same lessons any other way and don't feel that I'm any lesser in the personal development stakes for having gained insight into myself and my behaviours through chemical means. I've utilised other methods too but have never had the discipline to stick with them. I am aware of this and is something I would like to work on, but not because I feel there's anything wrong with my chemical allies so much as wishing to have more tools in my personal development toolkit. More than one way to skin a cat and all that.

(multiplicitous methods of cat-skinning FACT! - it actually refers to skinning catfish not cats cos catfish are difficult buggers to skin)

 

[Uncle Robert]

*shudders*

Thankfully not. I'm not sure if I'm mildly offended your dreamstate has such low opinion of me :D

What, you don't think he looks like brad pitt ?

Whatcha trying to say?

Nothing nothing!

Although you were in my dream and I did wake up hard..