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EADD Benzo Discussion V. I forget

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ColtDan said:
Think i had some mild etiz rebound earlier... doesnt take much at all to rebound off them things... and i dont do them that often and in low amounts. Much more re-boundy than diaz etc
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Yes, most definitely the case in my experience. An etiz tolerance is one that must have a super super eye kept on it. Devilish stuff that etizolam. Ever since my crazy 15 a day madness that i somehow stumbled into briefly a couple of years ago, I have always made sure that my main benzo is pyraz. Sure pyraz is no good for knocking you out if you need some sleep after a heavy stim session, but when it comes to a functional benzo, for me, its the only RC option right now. Etiz is for getting me out of trouble when i done to much stims or whatever, i refuse to use it as day time regular use recreational benzo type thingy or whatever. Its just far too dangerous.
 
Spot on agreed, pryaz is an excellent functional benzo, yeah etiz should be kept as a last resort in my opinion, diaz or clonaz or nothing doesnt rebound me, or hasnt done yet anyway, etiz does. and thats gapped out as well. at least i think its the etiz anyway. Body felt tired, felt lethargic, wanted to sleep, but i felt kinda edgy and oddly stimmed, very very mild rebound. had it worse a few months ago
 
yeh strange drug, chest feels kinda tight after 1.5mg of clonaz, did get told about my dog possibly / most likely having cancer :'( which has made things worse, aint been able to concentrate on stuff :( i think i need some etiz, im buying pellets too so its like i must have spent a good £1000's on these things, probably for about £100 worth of powder :/ fml i hate etiz but loved it so dearly !
 
ColtDan said:
Spot on agreed, pryaz is an excellent functional benzo, yeah etiz should be kept as a last resort in my opinion, diaz or clonaz or nothing doesnt rebound me, or hasnt done yet anyway, etiz does. and thats gapped out as well. at least i think its the etiz anyway. Body felt tired, felt lethargic, wanted to sleep, but i felt kinda edgy and oddly stimmed, very very mild rebound. had it worse a few months ago
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yeh i think i might give pyraz a go
 
You'll probably find them piss poor weak and pointless with tolerance

Sorry to hear about your dog :(
 
Meh 2 weeks off vals now, so thats it really for me i dont feel any different to what i would normally. Sleep is alright aswell in some ways i didnt mind the first week in terms of feeling energetic as fuck because now i wake up feeling mongy as fuck like usual lol.
 
Congrats DS, Im in a similar situation and feeling pretty good about it, approaching 2 weeks off pyraz/etiz, may it continue!
 
Yeah having a job helped me alot, i was jobless for like 18 months except 2 shitty agency jobs i had that didnt last long. good thing about having a job is your mind isnt foccussed in the negative aspects of life all day which just ends up with me being miserable and abusing stuff.

In reality if i had valium when i was 19 it would be a life saver becauser i had shit loads of anxiety attacks and depersonalization, but when i started abusing this shit i just did it for the sake of it because i was just rock bottom. My god did i learn a lesson though

Gz on quitting the etiz, thats another drug im glad i never bothered with ha
 
I've had news that the Psych is gna start lowering my Vals soon, and I'm about to start a new job, only on 25mgs per day, hopefully he will do it the way I asked and cut me down by 1mg per month/4 weeks,

But how the fuck I'll cope with all my symptoms coming back with a vengeance hence takin em in the 1st place and having any benzo under the sun on my doorstep I don't know 8)
 
steewith2ees said:
Wish id had a chance for a blast on the phenazepam missed the boat there
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Methinks you had a lucky escape there mate - phenazepam was a car crash in powder form! Just ask anyone who bought some - me included. Plus it was ridiculously cheap - £18/gram (thats 2000 0.5mg doses]. Mine ended up down the toilet 'cos I was wrecking my life. Took me a full two weeks before I felt normal again. I find flubromazepam similar, just doesn't last insanely long and is more expensive.
 
so the rebound people speak of with etizolam, its like that edgy feel u get off them when u wake up 4 hours into ur etizolam induced coma? literally these things are killing me, the dmt buddha told me they wud be the death of me, had like 15 mg last night had 8 about 8pm woke up at half 11 got that edgy feel about me, no real decent weed around , got like a measly 50mg of diaz and still etiz , mixing the two will be ok? will it give me a longer sleep? will i even get to sleep? ffs this is driving me crazy i might try 6mg of etiz and 10mg of diaz, dont know if that might change things up a bit? meh feeling like shit
 
ColtDan said:
You'll probably find them piss poor weak and pointless with tolerance

Sorry to hear about your dog :(
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thanks man, fuck benzos i hate what they have done to my appetite, overall motivation and ultimately my lifestyle, i do need them in my life but i am so much better off them , blerughhh pop 20mg of valium (probably gonna do fuck all) and add 6 mg of etiz as required
 
^ Is that your tolerance or are you just taking loads?


I really REALLY hope I get something soon. I'm too shook to go talk to my doctor about this. I feel sick, cold, and awkward everywhere I go. I really don't want to take these pills but I can't handle being sober right now.
I'd rather take 2 etiz in the morning rather than try to force down a 10% beer or two. :sus:
 
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plmar said:
^ Is that your tolerance or are you just taking loads?


I really REALLY hope I get something soon. I'm too shook to go talk to my doctor about this. I feel sick, cold, and awkward everywhere I go. I really don't want to take these pills but I can't handle being sober right now.
I'd rather take 2 etiz in the morning rather than try to force down a 10% beer or two. :sus:
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cant feel out from 4 etiz (8mg)
 
Bare_head said:
so the rebound people speak of with etizolam, its like that edgy feel u get off them when u wake up 4 hours into ur etizolam induced coma? literally these things are killing me, the dmt buddha told me they wud be the death of me, had like 15 mg last night had 8 about 8pm woke up at half 11 got that edgy feel about me, no real decent weed around , got like a measly 50mg of diaz and still etiz , mixing the two will be ok? will it give me a longer sleep? will i even get to sleep? ffs this is driving me crazy i might try 6mg of etiz and 10mg of diaz, dont know if that might change things up a bit? meh feeling like shit
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DMT... the wise teacher

Never gotten edgy upon waking, but its an edgy feeling yeah, fluttery chest, restless, shitty mood. n that was very mild rebound
 
I never got a rebound off etiz - only as far as maybe some slight lethargy. For me, the problem with etiz is the withdrawals. Etiz is such a "dirty" benzo-thio-whatever that the withdrawals are really something to beware of. Horrible horrible sweats and shakes. I remember being at a fucking 5 day training course thingy, taking 30 etiz with me and running out a day early. Shortly before we all left on the friday I had to get some guy to fill up a cup of water from the machine because my arm was shaking so bad i couldn't hold the cup straight. In fairness, I had also been up the last 2 days straight doing MPA with some thug I met on the course who had never heard of it but was hoovering it up like it was charlie. Strange week now that I look back. Shortly after the water cooler incident I boarded a train from york to the south coast. Four cans of strong bow barely touched the sides my etiz shakes were so bad. Tread careful with the blue ones is my advice.
 
yeh the aching muscles shaking is the worst symptom i get from daily use, sweats not so much, though i dont go longer than 24 hours without, did actually have one night where i had 4mg of melatonin, fell asleep too, and woke up in a sweat but without that horrible feeling.

Its actually such a gentle nice feeling drug at first, but fuck can it get nasty, especially as 1mg equates to like 10mg of diaz and i couldnt think of necking 20blues (200mg of diaz) but happily consume 20mg of etiz...

i really cnt wait to get off this stuff.. next step get better for tomorrowland!
 
Is xanax withdrawal still going after 7 days? Things like craving or trying to find reasons to use etc...? Also have lack of motivation or interest in social situations at the moment.

And since i'm sitting in on a saturday I wouldn't find a few mg...so wondering?
 
If you were using for a long time then I think even after the seizure stage and all that and completely off benzos it still takes a while to feel normal again, I always have Diaz in my system but even after I took Bars every day for a couple of months and stopped, even with my Diaz still going I felt it big time, the Diaz was doing nothing but stopping me seizing up, exact same with Clonaz.
 
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