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Opened my little MXE bag to solemnize the summer job

Just insufflated 40mg :)
 
Never Knows Best said:
LOL, your indictment of mankind relies upon ideas mankind invented. A given species' population is going to grow until it reaches its habitat's carrying capacity, if there's nothin' to keep the population in check. In some cases this may have a significant effect on biodiversity, in others it might not.

If we are gonna apply ethics (responsibility, benevolence, yada yada) as a yardstick for species' comparative worth, then it seems to me that only those lifeforms that have the capacity to make ethics-based decisions can be evaluated. So, we can only judge ourselves, and it makes little sense to make a single, sweeping good/bad verdict that covers all 7 billion of us, it would make more sense to compare specific populations, or groups within a given population.

Mark Twain made some wonderful negative appraisals of humanity, especially our moral sense, in a number of his short stories. Fun stuff.

Anyway, I read the above sentiments as indicating alienation from/disillusionment with society, its values & institutions. Because of this your identity, and empathy, are extended primarily towards nature, in its 'innocence' and inability to let you down, in a thought process that blooms as primitivism (or somethin' on the hippie-end of the scale) or the humanity-as-disease theory.


We have rearranged some terrestrial matter (and put an infinitesimal amount into outer space!), if that's what you mean.

Man, I was totally gonna watch some show about factory farming a ways back, but other persons in the room complained that they didn't wanna see/hear about it, so I couldn't. It looked pretty darn efficient, but I basically know nothing about the subject. Feel free to educate me.

I am glad that you're doing things in a way that you're proud of, good number of folks'll pay for their dinner to have had a decent life while it lasted. Us po' folks can't be so picky (I don't get that much meat, but I certainly don't get free-range, organic eggs).
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If I had the basic knowledge and/or motivation to break your post into separate quotes (and fancy rearrangements of your name) I would, but alas..so bare with me..

No, not just ideas mankind invented, but practices and effects as well. Despite my "cancerous scourge" description, we are not just bacteria growing in the petri dish that is earth, vying for space. We are salient self aware beings who have taken to rearranging our environment rather than our environment rearranging us, the previous modus operandi of evolution on this planet. We are aware of our actions, and effecting the environment in ways no other species in history has....yet we carry on for the short term benefit of a few.....greed greed greed. Has the human condition improved over the last 100 years? Certainly. The next 100? who the eff knows....we are dangerously overpopulated and milking the natural resources we have relied on to the last drop...

As far as the sweeping indictment of mankind, I stressed I find (some) individuals fascinating, but how else can we measure our species? By the privileged elite in control of the fuckery, or the small caste below them benefitting from said fuckery and driving electric cars and eating "organic"? Or the bulk of the worlds population festering in poverty and doing whatever they gotta do to survive? Like studying other species in the wild, it makes sense to take the macro view, rather than focus in on exceptions and particular variations.....Regardless, I was more expressing my frustration at our effect on the planet as a whole, and the sense of entitlement most humans have, with complete disregard for our surroundings, taking the last tree that is left, etc..

And rearranged some terrestrial matter? That is putting it lightly. We have poisoned our oceans, our atmosphere, our soil, and are wiping entire species off the planet in an unprecedented way...and doing so consciously. I'm not a fan of "morals", seems to be a preconditioned way to react to a situation....what I am fan of is the natural beauty of this planet, it's landscapes and creatures, and viewing such in an objective scientific way. I am duly impressed with our brains, but we use them for the most part in terribly misguided ways...us, the pampered and overfed distractobots in the US/EU/etc have such an easy time of it (yes, all of us, visit a third world country and tell me different) yet we get bogged down in existential crisis bullshit, or vapid distraction...and many see us as the pinnacle of evolution and deserving all we can take. Ugh.

Yes, I am disillusioned with society and humans in general, won't argue that point!

If I am a primitivist hippy (hardly, I despise hippies ;)) you are an anthropocentric city boy :D I just find solace in creatures and places unpolluted by the humankind stamp (a lead footprint trudging towards self immolation) and it pains me to see such disregard for everything non human.. We have the power and awareness to do things differently, yet most can't be arsed, or get outside of their heads enough to view the non human world...

Ie factory farming....woefully inefficient, and seriously inhumane. Even if the cruelty part doesn't resonate with you, the inefficiency should. We use about 70-80% of our agricultural space to grow grain for the beef, lamb, pork, chickens, etc raised in such conditions. Terribly inefficient, especially for animals that are accustomed to eating grass. And growing all this corn requires heavy duty use of chemical fertilizers as we have destroyed most of the topsoil in this country, fertilizers that have nasty effects as they accumulate downstream, so to speak. This land could be used to grow produce, and graze animals on the grass they evolved to eat, and the net food output would be much higher. But the profits would not, and we have an insatiable demand for meat. Small farms have been replaced with mega farms growing corn and soy, or confinement farming of said ruminants, fattening up on this grain. What used to be a way of living for *many* is now basically controlled by mega corporations, benefitting the few at the top at the expense of the environment, and providing the consumer with substandard product. Grass fed meat is much healthier, and even tastier...

And you poor folk are exactly who our products go to, free of charge. All of the vegetables and meat we produce goes to donation to local food banks. I won't go into too many details as to how this is possible, but I made some wealthy friends during my previous career, and these folks are doing this as strictly a philanthropic project...the poor overeducated unemployable felon that is I getting a farm to run is just an added bonus ;)

It has been a drastic lifestyle change for me the past few years, and I've had to develop an entirely new skill set. I've lived in cities and incredibly rural places, in the US and abroad, but never been so intimately involved in what we evolved to do...ie procure food. It feels good, not just because we are doing a good thing, but because it is in our genes. Our societies lifestyle is a very recent change in the grand scheme of human evolution, and I'd wager that has something to do with our malaise, depression, and alienation from each other and the natural world...
 
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I got some phenylpiracetam in the mail yesterday, just took 250mg of it. I hear it is strong enough that it actually produces a nice stimulation of the mind and body. I haven't taken a racetam in a while, I used to benefit quite solidly from piracetam, I'm very interested and a bit excited to see how this goes. I'm interested in trying coluracetam too.

thenightwatch said:
Xork, did you see my response to your light switch cover idea up there?^ lost amongst my cat ramblings lol

Light switch covers are mostly golden rectangles (I.e. they adhere to the golden ratio)...

I wouldn't mind owning a light switch cover with a golden spiral on it, with the switch coming out of the center of the spiral perhaps.
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That's a good idea, thanks. I'll paint one this morning or afternoon and post a picture.

xammy said:
Guys!!

My former boss called this morning and told me they could hire summer help and she would choose me

IM SO HAPPY, WOW. I was so high when she called that I was speechless, she asked if she woke me up hahahhaha. But all good, feels amazing! the most chill job I could think of, ill be working in the library where I did 6 months internship

If I cant get into university I'll go travelling in the autumn. Czech, Hungary and other Eastern European countries. I love life!
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Congrats dude! That's awesome! And as an aside, I envy you Europeans, because of how easy it is for you to travel to many different countries. I love traveling and discovering new places with new cultures. I've been to Europe 3 times, but in the grand total of my visits I have just been to all 4 British Isles, France, and I drove through southwestern Italy to visit Monaco, when I was staying in Nice for a week.

Roger&Me said:
see liek... i have cats, i mean, like neighborhood cats that i feed and hang out with. then i have a cat... who is like my soul mate. and if he were out of my sight for even 5 minutes i would have a heart attack and die of repeated self-inflicted stab wounds to the chest area. he is my one and only best bb.

so if any other cat got caught in a tree i wouldn't care much, but if my lil' bb got caught in a tree you best believe i'd be crawling up after him the first chance i got :DDD
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Absolutely, my cats and I are super close, when my boy cat got out and ran off to chase an animal right at dusk and stayed out til dawn, with coyotes closing in all around, I literally stayed outside searching and calling for him, the WHOLE TIME, because I couldn't bear the thought of not doing everything I could and then having something happen to him. The next day was hell at work (since I got about 1 hour of sleep after walking around outside all night), but it was worth it. <3

amanitadine said:
It has been a drastic lifestyle change for me the past few years, and I've had to develop an entirely new skill set. I've lived in cities and incredibly rural places, in the US and abroad, but never been so intimately involved in what we evolved to do...ie procure food. It feels good, not just because we are doing a good thing, but because it is in our genes. Our societies lifestyle is a very recent change in the grand scheme of human evolution, and I'd wager that has something to do with our malaise, depression, and alienation from each other and the natural world...
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I feel SO MUCH BETTER when I am out in nature extendedly, living off the land... one of my very favorite things to do is to go for multi-day backpacking trips (my longest was 2 weeks), where you bring in food and water and then find food and water (and bring along water purification crystals) along the way to sustain yourself. It feels so healthy for my mind to get back into survival mode. It also makes me more grateful for and appreciative of what we have built for ourselves, electricity, houses, running water, ease in getting a wide variety of foods. It helps all of the looping neuroses of society fall away for a time and makes me aware again of the direct connection we have to the Earth, as creatures that evolved, until very recently in our species' history, to live with and from the land. I 100% agree with your assessment of where our malaise, depression and alienation come from. We're living in ways that we have never lived before, with a system of goals that are brand new (evolutionarily speaking) and also intangible and abstract.
 
Xorkoth: yeah man, I was travelling around the Europe last summer with my brother. We did Hungary-Croatia-Slovenia-Italy-Germany-Netherlands trip. You know what InterRail is? Anyway its this pass you buy that allows you to travel with trains all over Europe for a month and costs like 200-500€ depends on your age and for how long you want it. We bought InterRail tickets that allow you to use 15 days for our 1 month trip. It cost something like 270€ for me. Just one ticket from Amsterdam to Berlin cost over 100€, so it is very very cheap thing to buy when going travelling in Europe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterRail

Do you have anything similar in US? Do you have good train connections all around the North America?


I took this pic in Budapest, Hungary 2013. I loved that city and highly recommend it! :) ohh the girls and cheap beer ;)
There were floods at the time. Our original plan was to fly from Helsinki to Prague but it got so serious in Prague that we had to change our flight to Budapest because of the flooding.

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We do have train connectivity but no one uses trains anymore, our rail system was revolutionary during the industrial revolution but it's not used to its potential anymore, everyone either has cars or lives in a city and walks/bikes/takes the subway/etc. Some of our cities have really good subway/public transportation systems, but we don't really have a good way like that that I'm aware of to travel around the country, and certainly not to travel to our neighbors Mexico and Canada. We have an awesome highway system, one of if not the best in the world. But you need a car for it (which I have, I have made good use of the roads in this country, I've been through or to around 25 of 50 states by now).
 
Here is my first art light switch cover... going to try to sell it this evening for $15 or $20, if it sells then I will make a lot more, I think people might really be into these as a functional piece of art. It should satisfy both the art lovers and the yuppie trinket-lovers (and those are the people who really spend the money).

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Ah my iPhone turned the picture sideways, oh well. Also it's still totally wet so the fine precise detail hasn't solidified yet.
 
^Id like to be a creative person.. I never could draw anything in art classes. fuck..

is creativity something that youre born with or something you can learn?

i'd like to create something.

lol, this is my friend and me in ~2006, i found this and it brought back so many memories. Im wondering what I was thinking in that moment when the picture was taken

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Laika said:
Yeah I was going to say it's probably the aMT causing the nausea. I've never gotten sick from GHB.
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I have

Twice I took too much

I ended up puking and then blacking out both times

~would do again~

xammy said:
^Id like to be a creative person.. I never could draw anything in art classes. fuck..

is creativity something that youre born with or something you can learn?

i'd like to create something.

lol, this is my friend and me in ~2006, i found this and it brought back so many memories. Im wondering what I was thinking in that moment when the picture was taken

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Creativity is something you put yourself into IMO.

I am into creating music, literature, video, and sometimes visual arts (I am currently painting one of my box sets for my first full length album)
 
Yay! The person who wanted me to make 15 art boxes for them got back to me finally... I has been weeks, I was sure she had just crapped out on me like literally every single other person who said they wanted to go into business with me so far. So that means I have a ~$750 project still on the books!

xammy said:
^Id like to be a creative person.. I never could draw anything in art classes. fuck..

is creativity something that youre born with or something you can learn?

i'd like to create something.

lol, this is my friend and me in ~2006, i found this and it brought back so many memories. Im wondering what I was thinking in that moment when the picture was taken

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Creativity is something everyone has I think, it's just that some people haven't exercised it much in their lives. I get a lot of people telling me they could never do art when they come to my table at the market, and I always tell them that they could, not exactly like me but their own art, if they want to they should just start playing with artistic media and over time they will get much better at it. That's what I did to develop my current techniques and styles. I have had the benefit of always being connected to my creative side so I've been working it out my whole life.

Also, which one is you?
 
Those times.. I miss them. The life was so thrilling back then. First love, first relationship, first drug experiences. Everything was so new. That guy on the left is now travelling around Australia. We became friends in junior high school and he's the one who introduced me into psychedelics and gave me 2C-B and MDMA for the first time. I kinda introduced him to cannabis ~6-7 years ago. He said the day we took 2c-b together ~4 years ago still remains one of the best days in his life. And me too. It was magical. He's one of my closest friends.

Fucking nostalgia!
 
Mmm, sounds tasty. I just made myself a killer salad, then for dinner after the art market I will eat some of my homemade Indian food.

This phenylpiracetam is nice, it's subtle but definitely present, everything feels brighter and easier today than it has in quite some time.
 
I've been drinking this energy drink lately that has piracetam in it, it's called Neuro Fuel, good stuff as far as energy drinks go. I prefer a cup of tea or coffee in the morning but when there is no time energy drinks are great. I should try some piracetam with my coffee and see if there is any sort of synergy there.
 
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