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plmar said:
My brain is completely 'spangled' today. :sus:
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Morning,

You're not the only one, I woke lots of times through the night & I woke up feeling strangely happy & refreshed... reason - my 2nd hyperactive episode in 3 days. It's not as pronounced as last time... I don't feel like I'm on coke but it's still noticeable.

Maybe not the same 'spangled' as yourself but hard to think clearly & focus.

I have to wait 3-4 months for a referral... I must resist the urge to second guess & self-medicate although I don't have access to Ritalin anyway.

Albion said:
I definitely haven't been seeping enough recently.
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I know the feeling, I've had mild insomnia since December... it had just started to go away & now seems to have re-appeared since I got the flu. :\
 
Chatative said:
I have to wait 3-4 months for a referral... I must resist the urge to second guess & self-medicate although I don't have access to Ritalin anyway.
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How come you're so certain you have ADHD all of a sudden? A few restless / sleepless days here and there doesn't mean you have ADHD. Not in the slightest.

Didn't you mention the other day that you have another (professional) diagnosis ?
 
I think anxiety keeps me awake, and gives me vivid dreams when I am asleep for the second half of the night. It's not just bad anxieties either; I'm anxiously awaiting drugs that won't arrive for a while yet but it's affecting my sleep already.
 
Sammy G said:
How come you're so certain you have ADHD all of a sudden? A few restless / sleepless days here and there doesn't mean you have ADHD. Not in the slightest.

Didn't you mention the other day that you have another (professional) diagnosis ?
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I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia perhaps actually Drug-Induced Psychosis considering it cleared up... they initially thought Drug-Induced. There are other reasons I won't go into.

I asked for a referral because ever since I was 10-11, I've been obsessive about activities for a few weeks a time & then my interests would change suddenly. Sometimes it's worse than others but I thought it was worth following up on. Called hyperfocus & there are many causes. It's something my Mum said she'd noticed but just thought as part of who I was.

It's just coincidence that I've had 2 hyperactive episodes 2 weeks after that referral. It might or might not be related but we'll see... I'm not sure what else could cause them other than ADHD & Bi-Polar... I'm not going to second guess as I said, I have my suspicions but I'll just have to wait & see.
 
Chatative said:
I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia perhaps actually Drug-Induced Psychosis considering it cleared up... they initially thought Drug-Induced. There are other reasons I won't go into.
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Well it isn't my intention to pry, but I don't see how you can be diagnosed with schizophrenia without the relevant professional eliminating the possibility of your symptoms being drug-induced first. In fact, I know several people who've had to wait until the drugs are out of their system before they even receive a diagnosis.

So you're saying you were diagnosed with schizophrenia, then you started feeling better after (presumably) taking medication and getting off drugs, which caused you to then self-diagnose as a non-schizophrenic?

I would've thought your previous psychiatric sessions would have eliminated bipolar for certain, by the way.
 
Sammy G said:
Well it isn't my intention to pry, but I don't see how you can be diagnosed with schizophrenia without the relevant professional eliminating the possibility of your symptoms being drug-induced first. In fact, I know several people who've had to wait until the drugs are out of their system before they even receive a diagnosis.

So you're saying you were diagnosed with schizophrenia, then you started feeling better after taking medication and getting off drugs, which caused you to self-diagnose as a non-schizophrenic?
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No.

I did not stop using drugs until after, I was habitually using Mephedrone at the time & came off my Anti-Psychotics because I was getting side-effects that weren't listed... then not only the side-effects but all my symptoms cleared up literally overnight & I no longer had the urge to use Mephedrone either. I think the habitual drug use was due to the severe lack of motivation & dis-interest in doing anything, which were the side-effects I mentioned. It wasn't depression, my Psychiatrist said so himself. It can be a cause of Schizophrenia but it only came on 1.5 years after my only psychotic episode & only as I was on ever increasing doses of medication.

The medication was worse than the illness & the side effects got worse the higher the dose went.

Take from that what you want.

It goes without saying that I had Schizoprhenia or Drug-Induced Psychosis... but I might have some underlying issue. Anti-Psychotics given to people with ADHD cause the side-effects I got... I'm not putting too much into that, but it's very interesting considering.

Anyway, I don't really want to go into it that much & debate it... just bore everyone here ;)

*edit* - the only difference between Drug-Induced Psychosis & Schizophrenia is one is temporary & the other not
 
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So you were diagnosed with schizophrenia then? And since then you've received no further diagnosis which would contradict it, but you've quit your meds?

I'm aware all this is very personal, but since you're putting it on the board willingly and it's pretty worrying stuff, I'm expressing my concern. It would be the very worst thing for you to carry on sourcing and taking drugs, yet it appears that you're inventing illnesses for yourself in order to rationalise and 'legitimise' further drug use. The old 'ADHD' self-diagnosis being a Bluelight favourite.

I can understand why you might be scared of being 'ill', I really can. I'm not schizophrenic, but I caused myself no end of trouble and heartbreak for the very same reason.

Eventually the wheels will come off of their own accord. It's up to you whether you want to try and take control. :)
 
Sammy G said:
So you were diagnosed with schizophrenia then? And since then you've received no further diagnosis which would contradict it, but you've quit your meds?
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No you misunderstand... I talked to my Psychiatrist & I decided to try coming off my medication... I then saw him a month later when I was fine, and then was "discharged" 3 months later after seeing him again. (not from a hospital... but no longer needed to see a Psychiatrist.)

I have taken drugs 3 times recently after 8 months of abstinence... to be honest, it was fun but I will probably not take drugs that often & I doubt I will use any stimulants again. It is a risk I'm willing to take... I've had no symptoms re-appear. Right now I'm more interested in getting back in the gym & running than using drugs. The way I see it, drugs will be the exception... not the rule.

I completely understand your concerns & thoughts - I am being very candid about it all. Thanks :)

The important thing is I've got a referral & will be able to discuss all this including other issues with a mental health professional.
 
Chatative said:
No you misunderstand... I talked to my Psychiatrist & I decided to try coming off my medication... I then saw him a month later when I was fine, and then was "discharged" 3 months later. (not from a hospital... but no longer needed to see a Psychiatrist.)
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But that doesn't affect your diagnosis.

I don't have to see a psychiatrist regularly just now, but I'm certainly not 'discharged'. And I find it baffling that any psychiatrist would advocate coming off medication because of 'side effects' and not trying alternative meds. Especially for schizophrenia. It's just... well, I hope you weren't going private, that's all I'll say. :\

I'll be honest: it sounds like you're experiencing the return of some symptoms. And yes, at least you'll be seeing a professional about it rather than self-medicating, which plenty of schizophrenics end up doing with disastrous results.

Good luck, and please consider laying off the drugs for a few months.
 
Sammy G said:
I'll be honest: it sounds like you're experiencing the return of some symptoms. And yes, at least you'll be seeing a professional about it rather than self-medicating, which plenty of schizophrenics end up doing with disastrous results.

Good luck, and please consider laying off the drugs for a few months.
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I've never, ever had these symptoms (hyperactivity) before. I was on the NHS & am going back to them again for the referral.

To be fair, I open myself to others opinions & I do value them. You have lots of wise things to say clearly based on your own experiences which although different have some bearing.

This is a harm reduction forum after all.

The reason I am so open is that too. Without going around shouting it... I sort of want people to be aware of the things that can go wrong when you take drugs.

I assure you I will not be taking drugs for at least a month probably & as I said, only as an exception. Probably only things like the one-off MDMA or aMT trip.

There is a whole other section of the forums for Mental Illness... I actually have a thread in there about my unlisted side-effects & everything else related to that from a year ago which I updated.

Anyway, Gibberings is not the place for in-depth discussion of this so thanks for your concern but I think other topics would be better now. :)

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Looks like a nice day today... the Sun is out & I think the Spring has definitely arrived now. I thought it had 2 weeks ago before we got a period of crap weather! Bring on the hot weather!
 
Chatative said:
I've never, ever had these symptoms (hyperactivity) before.
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So the chances are you don't have ADHD. =D

Anyway, you're right - just felt the need to chime in there as this forum is full of people self-diagnosing and self-medicating themselves into real problems. I was one of them for a long time.

But yes - lousy day here too.
 
^^ Fire spinning is awesome. We once saw someone doing it outside a club & my friend convinced the person to let him have a go, unlit of course! He did rather well... maybe he'd been practising because he secretly has a desire to be Homecoming Queen. ;)

Sammy - Well if it's sunny where you are, get out & soak up some rays! That always makes me feel good no matter how my mood is.
 
Albion said:
I definitely haven't been seeping enough recently.
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heh know the feeling. diclazepam seems to be working better than earplugs for me to combat the noise. Having one of those days where the smell of pv wont go away from inside my nose.
 
Morninoon, all :)

Today I am tired. Didn't get to sleep til late/early and then didn't sleep for long. Too warm and sunny. Which is hardly a thing to complain about so got up and put washing out to dry before I'd even dug all the sleep out of eyes. I am now awake. But tired. Think I need to deal with a missed appointment this afternoon. Thankfully they said benefits wouldn't be stopped if I didn't go cos it's optional. Am actually quite amazed there's still such thing as "optional" JobCentre courses which are actually optional. Annoyingly it's one I actually want to attend cos sounds like it could be quite handy. It's one they only offer to people they haven't written off in one way or another. Will have to see if I can re-arrange it so they don't use missing it as an excuse to write me off. Frustrating situation being so far out in the sticks when it comes to employment issues. There really is no way of gaining employment without moving, but it's nigh-on impossible to move if you're not employed 8)

Albion said:
I definitely haven't been seeping enough recently.
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Ooze fault is that then?
 
stereo mic said:
I love EADD, sometimes I think I'm not normal but I come on here and realise everyone is not normal.
Sorry if that offense anyone but just reading other ppls posts makes me feel more sane.
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This place can 'normalise' 'abnormal behaviour' like extreme dug taking, so that it doesnt appear so abnormal as it would to the wider non BL/EADD population. I think the same thing applies to any forum, where the members are generally pretty deeply into w/e the forum is about. Whether it be sports, extreme political fringes, music, audio visual technolgy equipment, films, drugs, food, sex fetishes, mental health or w/e, there are so many people that go to extreme extreme obsessions on these places, that it makes ones behaviour seem normal because lots of other people also tend to be way in deep/obsessive about w/e.

There may be forums for people obsessed about nitting wooly jumpers or cleaning their house for example, spending the whole day every day, on these activities. The person may at first have felt that there is something wrong with them, but then they read about people who are going to even greater extremes than themselves, perhaps not only spending the whole day on their obsessions but unable to stop them in order to go to bed at night or something.

The old chestnut still applies though, 'what is normal' anyway? Are Daily Mail readers normal? They are meant to represent 'middle England' but many of them seem less normal to me than the entire population of EADD.
 
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