Gibberings CLXI: The Numerals are Probably Wrong, The Words Within Most Certainly Are

[foolsgold]

I don't see your problem, FG.

We Christians aren't all that sinister. For me personally I can find enjoyment in life in a compassionate, loving and peaceful way... and then naturally want to thank God for the opportunity for being able to do so. To love all those dear to us, humans and animals and show thanks and appreciation to the creator for allowing us to experience these beautiful moments.


its the thanking god bit i cant not stand its not god that made you do these things raas its you god is just a vile fairy tail that brings nothing but death and wars but i am not in mood for this tonight like ive said your a kind soul raas and that is you not god if you get what i mean anyway its bed time for me so night night
What's so wrong with that? Why cant you stand that?

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i just hate conformist religion

 

[Uncle Robert]

I'm fine with people being religious, each to their own n all that. Emphasis being on 'their own'. If people find something that gives them hope, or answers, or happiness, then good for them.

What does tick me off is when people give God the credit for something that was not only nothing to do with him, but purely down to the actions of an actual person. For example if there's a car crash and medics get on the scene and keep somebody alive and get them to the hospital, where doctors and surgeons fix that person. That isn't a miracle that is tireless effort from human beings.

I saw a clip of a plane trying to land in atrocious weather. It was all very scary but the crash landing was a success and everyone came out saying it was a miracle they survived, thank god etc. In reality it was the skill of the pilot who saved all those people's lives. That pilot didn't get half the recognition he deserved.

 

[Raasyvibe]

i just hate conformist religion

ok, well can you not hate on us who aren't.

As I've said many many times... 2/3's of the world are religious.... that's billions of people....it's very broad and caters for all kinds of ideas and extremists.

But, for those who use it properly... it's just living life in a decent way and showing thanks for being able to do so

I'm fine with people being religious, each to their own n all that. Emphasis being on 'their own'. If people find something that gives them hope, or answers, or happiness, then good for them.

What does tick me off is when people give God the credit for something that was not only nothing to do with him, but purely down to the actions of an actual person. For example if there's a car crash and medics get on the scene and keep somebody alive and get them to the hospital, where doctors and surgeons fix that person. That isn't a miracle that is tireless effort from human beings.

I saw a clip of a plane trying to land in atrocious weather. It was all very scary but the crash landing was a success and everyone came out saying it was a miracle they survived, thank god etc. In reality it was the skill of the pilot who saved all those people's lives. That pilot didn't get half the recognition he deserved.

Well that's just a particular persons take on events. You can't blaim religion for that.

 

[ScotchMist]

I think Albions just been unfortunate in the type of group hes joined.

If im right in thinking you're in london there should be loads of meetings in the day and evenings so it may be worth shopping around until you at the very least find an agnostic bunch of junkies

I went to a meet earlier, twas alright, got some crap of my chest. 4 the

 

[foolsgold]

and no raas i hate every one equally and you cant rip that out of me as the song says

i am only playing with you mate really i have nothing personally against you like ive said your kind heart soul

 

[Raasyvibe]

Jesus loves you FoolsGold. Call on his name and you will be healed.

 

[CbRoXiDe]

Indeed, praise the lord.

 

[AcidTrippin]

For the record I have no issue with God as a concept! I'm agnostic, and happily so. Even quite spiritual when the mood takes me. I just don't like NA for forcing it on to me, especially when they claim to have no religious affiliation. I don't like that people are being exposed to that kind of deception when they seek help in a vulnerable state of mind. I went to get help for drug addiction, and found myself battling barriers relating to faith and God. Like, what the fuck? That's not on, and all its done is make me angry.

I mentioned this to someone and they also reminded me that basically half the other things in society do the same manipulation/stealing/whatever on more vulnerable people. Was nice to see something give that a bit of balance. I'm really into individual thinking when it comes to spirituality though, so religion as a whole doesn't really flow with me. I've been to some events before long ago and seen how things work and then I realized I had more of an issue with the fact it's force upon (however significantly less so) from a young age, but having went through being religious can't weigh it up. So just don't like religion as a whole like the acts/things it causes and the people at the top in some significant ones but nothing wrong with anyone following it, they're just doing their thing - not talking about anything extremist here. For me I get much better things out of piecing my own together.

 

[Raasyvibe]

I realized I had more of an issue with the fact it's force upon (however significantly less so) from a young age,

I hate it when people say this "Religion forced onto children is wrong!"

ALL parents FORCE their children into what is considered right for them. A child is forced to school, forced to dress, forced to eat it's greens...They are forced because they are too young to know what's right for them. If a parent feels it's in the childs best interest to go to Sunday school, then they have full right to force it upon them, just like school, homework and eating their 5 -a -day.

 

[AcidTrippin]

I hate it when people say this "Religion forced onto children is wrong!"

ALL parents FORCE their children into what is considered right for them. A child is forced to school, forced to dress, forced to eat it's greens...They are forced because they are too young to know what's right for them. If a parent feels it's in the childs best interest to go to Sunday school, then they have full right to force it upon them, just like school, homework and eating their 5 -a -day.

Nah man, just disagree with you on that but each to their own. I've seen plenty of people not raised in any of that sort've path you're talking about with religion being used with morals etc and they turn out better and more interesting - maybe it's just from my perspective, than half the people who stick to it. You don't need religion on that scale, with that corruption to teach morals/whats right etc there is definitely other methods. If not, many of them need refreshed/restructured into modern society a lot as changed even in the past 20 years. It's one of those ones though that I can only speculate I don't know enough about how human brain works or how we works as groups/individuals in relation to that. Works for plenty of people but I've also seen on many scales how religion can make people have terrible morals especially to others. It's a topic I find hard to go beyond that really in because everyone varies.

 

[AcidTrippin]

On another note love speed, had been off it for a few months there and got some few days ago there and reminded me how much I love it definitely my preference out of the usual MD/Coke/Speed here, I get it dried out (since it just affects weight if damp) then started putting it onto a heated plate and chopping it up even more. 100mg lines would definitely say you're going good although that's not good for amphetamine it's definitely good for the speed in comparison to others. Has like a 15-30min initial rush I find roughly when you're coming up that's really nice then just goes into really, really long alert/awareness/sharpness just nice amphetamine, if binging though tend to find myself just going for a rush then doing more waiting again then again rather than the actual high that continues for hours. Very messy after more than 3 days though.

My problem is binging, but managed to use a small bit today and get a fuck load done. I also just smoke all my weed, just keep racking pipes even though they never truly work...and have been up nearly 24 hours. Did lots today though, much more productive compared to my typical stoned out haze.

 

[Uncle Robert]

You can't blaim religion for that.

I wasn't

I hate it when people say this "Religion forced onto children is wrong!"

ALL parents FORCE their children into what is considered right for them. A child is forced to school, forced to dress, forced to eat it's greens...They are forced because they are too young to know what's right for them. If a parent feels it's in the childs best interest to go to Sunday school, then they have full right to force it upon them, just like school, homework and eating their 5 -a -day.

Hmmm bit different

 

[foolsgold]

morning guess it looks like i cant seem to leave this place after all

 

[Sammy G]

Don't worry, FG. You're not the only one.

Morning!

 

[ScotchMist]

Morning all...

 

[foolsgold]

fixated with Kate

this morning

you know if my mdpv turns up what i will be up to lmao

 

[bummer]

I hate it when people say this "Religion forced onto children is wrong!"

ALL parents FORCE their children into what is considered right for them. A child is forced to school, forced to dress, forced to eat it's greens...They are forced because they are too young to know what's right for them. If a parent feels it's in the childs best interest to go to Sunday school, then they have full right to force it upon them, just like school, homework and eating their 5 -a -day.

I have never forced my kids to do anything. As soon as a person can talk they can negotiate. They do eat their greens, they do try hard at school, theyre not out sniffing glue and stealing cars so my approach seems to have worked.

Forcing people to do anything can never achieve anything positive

As for religion, one thinks there is 'something spiritual' out there, the other one scoffs at the very idea of it.
Which shows its not all about upbringing.

 

[masaz]

Oh well that's a nice post :D

edit: FG's I mean

As for religion, I tend not to get into this kind of debate. Not that it doesn't interest me; I just don't have the ability or knowledge to keep up, but I went to a very Catholic primary school and am now pretty much just 'spiritual' (I blame the drugs) and agnostic. I'm happy for people to have their religion, as long as it's not pushed on me. My ex's parents were very religious (forget which specific branch of Christianity) and I'd pray at dinner or at least sort of join in, same with funerals and weddings. Doesn't bother me cos there might be something out there, there might not. Just as some extremely religious people twist me the wrong way, so do the extreme atheists. Great, you don't believe in something. What more is there to say?

Mrs Snolls has been trying to get me to go to church recently. It's something I'm open to, but not exactly sure how to go about it. I'd personally at least want to go to the Church I was baptised into, whereas I'm not entirely sure what religion she even is, if she has a particular one. All I know is her Mum converted from Islam to marry her Dad, but she was reluctant to bring up what religion she converted to.

 

[foolsgold]

 

[masaz]

Thank you