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Flight MH370: Where the FUCK is that plane?
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StoneHappyMonday
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Cif on the Guardian is miles ahead of this thread.
But points for trying.
Anderman Islands?
But points for trying.
Anderman Islands?
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Nah. But "Freescale semiconductor" is a pretty interesting name for a company and a conspiracy theory involving American passengers.
But it ain't that.
But it ain't that.
Missing Air-Liner
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got me thinking about this.
This is one of those things I know about. Big disasters like this, if indeed it is a disaster, have always held an interest for me after growing up in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, living through a civil war & witnessing terrorist attacks, being shot at etc etc. I just have this interest in things like this. Some might remember I spent a big post on the assasination of JFK, after some interesting new evidence came to light...
Well, there's not alot of evidence in this case, is there?
I watch alot of thise Air-Crash investigation things, you know how it goes... I guess as I ride in a plane once in awhile, I have an interest in how safe they are to travel in in the same way as I'm interested in terrorism because, like flying in an airliner, it's something that's touched me directly. Terrorism & flying air-craft, of course, have been related subjects since long before Sept 11th
A quick recap of the facts as they stand last time I saw the news. Boeing 777 filled mostly with Chinese people departs Malaysia in the middle of the night for Beijing, like 1am local time or something. An hour later Malaysian Air Traffic Control verbally says goodnight to the plane & hands it over to, I think, Vietnamese control. But the plane never contacts Vietnamese control, & never reaches it's destination.
A thorough, week long search for wreckage in the South China Sea, over which this plane was flying when it dissapeared has been given up now. This area is only where the transponder, which communicates a planes ID, height & speed as it flies through air-space, was turned off. It turns out however, that other communications devices embedded within the Rolls Royce engines continued to send data for several more hours & a satellite has tracked these signals away from the South China Sea, & into two other possible areas, one an open space of Indian Ocean, another stretching across Asia, into China & up to Kazackstan.
Unless there's been some sort of malfunction with this Sat-comms system, it seems certain that someone on board who knew what they were doing deliberately turned off the planes transponder in the 10 or 15 minutes between Malaysian & Vietnamess Air Traffic Control, & changed direction. No-one, yet, knows what happened next...
We can be relatively certain on only one or two things at this stage, a week since the plane dissapeared. There was no catastrophic failure of the plane itself because if there had been I suspect wreckage would have been found by now, & no serious failure that might've caused the plane to wander off course & eventually crash, because this would have given the pilots time to issue a mayday!
It seems reasonable to assume that whatever happened is some sort of deliberate act, because the Sept 11th attackers also turned off the transponders on the aircraft they hijacked, which probably gave them time to hit their targets that they might not have had if the planes were being tracked by their transponders.
So, if the plane didn't crash because of some malfunction, what happend & where is it? Shall we take a couple of educated guesses? Honestly, a couple is all I've got before we get into the realms of mass alien abductions
1) The plane was redirected by a suicidal pilot, with the very intention of causing this confusion. The plane was ditched in the Indian Ocean when it ran out of fuel, or deliberately, & the wreckage has not been found because everybody, until now, has been looking in the wrong place. In this scenario, obviously, they're all dead. It's remotely possible that a pilot might have successfully landed the plane on the ocean & it sunk, again, everyone dead. Even if the plane was successfully landed on water & didn't sink, the chances of the passengers surviving, floating on the ocean surface for the last week are close to nil.
2) The plane has been flown, with everyone on board to some secret destination from which somebody plans to ransom the plane & the individuals on board. Sort of like a Somali Pirate of the Skies. This seems highly unlikely, but because it's a straw for families to grasp at, it's been menationed in the media.
3) The plane came down somewhere in Asia & again, nothing has been found because no-one knew, until the Satellite data came out, that the plane had flown for many hours after the transponder had been turned off & they've all been looking in the wrong place.
4) The plane & all it's passengers were the subject of a mass alien abdunction.
Stone's rare return to post a crappy Haiku
got me thinking about this.This is one of those things I know about. Big disasters like this, if indeed it is a disaster, have always held an interest for me after growing up in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, living through a civil war & witnessing terrorist attacks, being shot at etc etc. I just have this interest in things like this. Some might remember I spent a big post on the assasination of JFK, after some interesting new evidence came to light...
Well, there's not alot of evidence in this case, is there?
I watch alot of thise Air-Crash investigation things, you know how it goes... I guess as I ride in a plane once in awhile, I have an interest in how safe they are to travel in in the same way as I'm interested in terrorism because, like flying in an airliner, it's something that's touched me directly. Terrorism & flying air-craft, of course, have been related subjects since long before Sept 11th
A quick recap of the facts as they stand last time I saw the news. Boeing 777 filled mostly with Chinese people departs Malaysia in the middle of the night for Beijing, like 1am local time or something. An hour later Malaysian Air Traffic Control verbally says goodnight to the plane & hands it over to, I think, Vietnamese control. But the plane never contacts Vietnamese control, & never reaches it's destination.
A thorough, week long search for wreckage in the South China Sea, over which this plane was flying when it dissapeared has been given up now. This area is only where the transponder, which communicates a planes ID, height & speed as it flies through air-space, was turned off. It turns out however, that other communications devices embedded within the Rolls Royce engines continued to send data for several more hours & a satellite has tracked these signals away from the South China Sea, & into two other possible areas, one an open space of Indian Ocean, another stretching across Asia, into China & up to Kazackstan.
Unless there's been some sort of malfunction with this Sat-comms system, it seems certain that someone on board who knew what they were doing deliberately turned off the planes transponder in the 10 or 15 minutes between Malaysian & Vietnamess Air Traffic Control, & changed direction. No-one, yet, knows what happened next...
We can be relatively certain on only one or two things at this stage, a week since the plane dissapeared. There was no catastrophic failure of the plane itself because if there had been I suspect wreckage would have been found by now, & no serious failure that might've caused the plane to wander off course & eventually crash, because this would have given the pilots time to issue a mayday!
It seems reasonable to assume that whatever happened is some sort of deliberate act, because the Sept 11th attackers also turned off the transponders on the aircraft they hijacked, which probably gave them time to hit their targets that they might not have had if the planes were being tracked by their transponders.
So, if the plane didn't crash because of some malfunction, what happend & where is it? Shall we take a couple of educated guesses? Honestly, a couple is all I've got before we get into the realms of mass alien abductions
1) The plane was redirected by a suicidal pilot, with the very intention of causing this confusion. The plane was ditched in the Indian Ocean when it ran out of fuel, or deliberately, & the wreckage has not been found because everybody, until now, has been looking in the wrong place. In this scenario, obviously, they're all dead. It's remotely possible that a pilot might have successfully landed the plane on the ocean & it sunk, again, everyone dead. Even if the plane was successfully landed on water & didn't sink, the chances of the passengers surviving, floating on the ocean surface for the last week are close to nil.
2) The plane has been flown, with everyone on board to some secret destination from which somebody plans to ransom the plane & the individuals on board. Sort of like a Somali Pirate of the Skies. This seems highly unlikely, but because it's a straw for families to grasp at, it's been menationed in the media.
3) The plane came down somewhere in Asia & again, nothing has been found because no-one knew, until the Satellite data came out, that the plane had flown for many hours after the transponder had been turned off & they've all been looking in the wrong place.
4) The plane & all it's passengers were the subject of a mass alien abdunction.
this is the same thread no? http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/716008-Flight-MH370-Where-the-FUCK-is-that-plane
No worries, your thread was awesome too! But mine was first and I don't think there's a way to merge threads the other way.
I think one thing was can be pretty certain of, whatever happened to the plane, that the passengers are probably all dead by now.
I would also have thought that if it had been hijacked and flown somewhere that there would have been public ransom demands at this point.
Also if the plane was hijacked and crashed deliberately by terrorists, a group would have admitted responsibility by now.
That pretty much leaves crashed, it seems strange that we haven't found anything yet, but it seems like evidence is coming to light now that suggests we've not been looking in the right places, so maybe something will show up.
I do wonder how much more information various governments have which we don't know about though :/
It's been said that IF there was some kind of ransom negotiation going on, it might be part of the deal to keep it out the news for the time being. Our Prince Harry was fighting in Afghanistan & the media worldwide were instructed to, & did, keep the news blacked out for some time.
It's still a stretch though. The most likely scenario is suicidal pilot in my opinion.
It's still a stretch though. The most likely scenario is suicidal pilot in my opinion.
Given it's Asia that would be The Devil's Triangle. Although that's just off the corner of Japan which is probably a bit too far north. Best "serious" conspiracy theory I've heard is that it entered a stargate and disappeared into another dimension. Yes, that was presented as a serious conspiracy theory. Some of the more extreme conspiracy folk do tend to be convinced that Hollywood releases actual factual information via the medium of sci-fi. I'm almost surprised nobody's suggested ET was on board and finally went home.
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The plane flew for 7 hours after it lost contact with ATC. And it did so flying a course that could only have been navigated by a skilful pilot avoiding all normal (ie non-military) corridors of civilian radar, including doing so at different altitudes, specifically designed to avoid detection, from 45000 ft to 23000ft and particularly a long stretch at 29500ft, 500 ft below normal radar detection and at an optimum height to conserve fuel consumption.
That's some elaborate suicide attempt Si.
5) ET was on board, & by some fucking stroke of luck, his call was the one that got through.
A communications & aviation expert, French fella I think, was on TV yesterday, & he was asked how come no-one on the plane made any mobile phone calls. Seriously. He was asked that. He explained to the dumb fuckers, that a mobile phone communicates with other mobile phones via masts on the ground, which then either comm between other land masts or satellites to send & recieve calls, & that an aeroplane would be far, far, FAR to fucking high in the sky for a shitty little mobile phone to connect to a mast on the ground & that normal mobile phones were not equiped with direct satellite connections. Even when not set to "Flight Mode", no normal mobile phone would be able to communicate with the ground from that height.
So, how come those people tackled the hi-jackers on Sept 11th because they had made & recieved "cell" phone-calls in-flight, when such a thing is still impossible over a decade later? That information is in the official 9/11 Report. How can that be?
A quick google will tell you that I am far from the only person to ask this question about the most infamous televised event of my lifetime & this century!
Ain't it just... *shrug*
How about a loss of compression, everyones lost conciousness but only after just about having time to turn around but not enough time to mayday. Something has also killed comms, perhaps some partial failure after all?
A communications & aviation expert, French fella I think, was on TV yesterday, & he was asked how come no-one on the plane made any mobile phone calls. Seriously. He was asked that. He explained to the dumb fuckers, that a mobile phone communicates with other mobile phones via masts on the ground, which then either comm between other land masts or satellites to send & recieve calls, & that an aeroplane would be far, far, FAR to fucking high in the sky for a shitty little mobile phone to connect to a mast on the ground & that normal mobile phones were not equiped with direct satellite connections. Even when not set to "Flight Mode", no normal mobile phone would be able to communicate with the ground from that height.
So, how come those people tackled the hi-jackers on Sept 11th because they had made & recieved "cell" phone-calls in-flight, when such a thing is still impossible over a decade later? That information is in the official 9/11 Report. How can that be?
A quick google will tell you that I am far from the only person to ask this question about the most infamous televised event of my lifetime & this century!
Ain't it just... *shrug*
How about a loss of compression, everyones lost conciousness but only after just about having time to turn around but not enough time to mayday. Something has also killed comms, perhaps some partial failure after all?
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643 landing strips within range
Total range with full fuel load (NB authorities claim plane only had 60% or so fuel load to reach Beijing...but let's face it, they've lied through their teeth so far and who is to say fellow conspirators on the ground couldn't have fueled the jet to maximum before take off)
Total range with full fuel load (NB authorities claim plane only had 60% or so fuel load to reach Beijing...but let's face it, they've lied through their teeth so far and who is to say fellow conspirators on the ground couldn't have fueled the jet to maximum before take off)
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That indeed is one of the biggest holes in the official 9/11 report.
With the 9/11 phone calls wouldn't it be that they could use their phones as they were at a lower height maybe and also flying over cities as they were internal flights?
Just a question as I don't know al the ins & outs regarding mobile phones and making calls when in flight.
Just a question as I don't know al the ins & outs regarding mobile phones and making calls when in flight.