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Stimulants Anyone else have anelgesic effects from meth?

^ Based on Sekio's statements, that it is noradrenaline/norepinephrine (NE) that causes added analgesia from stimulants, and NOT dopamine or endorphins, it all depends if that specific dosage of Methylphenidate (Ritalin) keeps more of norepinephrine in your synapses than your dosage of previously dosed dex-amphetamine (Dexedrine).

I have never tried Ritalin/Focalin, but I've been prescribed Adderall and Dexedrine (mostly dex), and have taken prescribed dosages (usually less) daily for 2 years now, and I'm going to go ahead and guesstimate (based on what I've read on BL) that the Ritalin will have more NE activity due to its alleged "tweakiness" or "speediness" relative to Adderall (1:5 DA:NE) and especially relative to the 1:1 DA:NE activity ratio, primarily-CNS simulant Dexedrine.
 
Hi, I found this interesting I have rheumatoid arthritis and have done for over 20 years despite only being in my mid twenties I am prescribed codeine and diclofenac but I swear the best painkilling effects I have felt have been from mdma or mephedrone, obviously I wouldn't recommend either of them as long term analgesics but this has peaked my interest in approaching my doctor again about painkillers as she was adamant that there are only 2 painkilling options opiates and anti inflammatories but perhaps there could be a medicinal stimulant? As chronic fatigue is a real problem when you spend all day battling pain
 
I too have noticed that in the midst of an opioid withdrawal, I would often dip into my reserves of other drugs even if they weren't necessarily appropriate for the situation (addiction... maybe). Usually when one is dopesick, appropriate medication are things like downers, benzos, cannibas, but usually not stimulants like coke/amps, however I found that some amphetamine really helped me get through the day when dopesick, not only did it give me energy but it did mask the pain I felt from withdrawing from opioid drugs. I never got that same feeling from coke, however most coke is a disgusting street drug that hardly has any actual cocaine hcl in it these days. And the amphetamine I did was a pharmaceutical pill (either vyvanse or adderall), so the quality was top notch as far as regular amps go (it wasn't street crank)
 
ErgicMergic said:
^ Based on Sekio's statements, that it is noradrenaline/norepinephrine (NE) that causes added analgesia from stimulants, and NOT dopamine or endorphins, it all depends if that specific dosage of Methylphenidate (Ritalin) keeps more of norepinephrine in your synapses than your dosage of previously dosed dex-amphetamine (Dexedrine).

I have never tried Ritalin/Focalin, but I've been prescribed Adderall and Dexedrine (mostly dex), and have taken prescribed dosages (usually less) daily for 2 years now, and I'm going to go ahead and guesstimate (based on what I've read on BL) that the Ritalin will have more NE activity due to its alleged "tweakiness" or "speediness" relative to Adderall (1:5 DA:NE) and especially relative to the 1:1 DA:NE activity ratio, primarily-CNS simulant Dexedrine.
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Thank you for clarifying for me, I can't believe my inability to understand anything when I'm hit with fatigue. My doctor basically said the same thing yesterday, but he doesn't have a strong knowledge of how pharmaceuticals work which is why he's so leery to prescribe me anything yet. I tried Ritalin when I was a teenager and definitely agree that it's way tweakier, something I'd rather avoid but I also tried it before I developed a fondness for stimulants.

Shammo I'm looking into using amphetamines as a last resort, nothing else works for me anymore. Like Captain Heroin suggested, cannabis might be a good option for you. Both my uncle and my grandfather use pot to treat pain with rheumatoid arthritis. If I'm remembering properly, I had diclofenac a few years ago and only took it for about a week before I started getting terrible pain in my kidneys. It's not the best for long term treatment. Something like celebrex might be a better option for you. You could also try rotating diclofenac with something like naproxen.

I took a lot of MDMA the first time I came off long term opiate use. Given the fact that I had gone completely nuts at the time, I have no idea if it was beneficial or not. Probably not with the amount I was taking. I did use dexedrine to help me move across the country shortly after coming off of opiates and found it to be beneficial. I've only gotten my hands on good cocaine a handful of times. Any other time I've used it I just end up depressed and really sketched out.
 
Thanks for the advice :-) I m not sure if we even use cannabis medicinally here (UK) but I shall enquire, touch wood I ve been ok on diclofenac but I have been on the maximum dose (apparently) for about 7 years so I m sure my kidneys will shrivel up at some point! I used to be on naproxen when I was a kid but these days it's no more effective for me than ibuprofen.
 
I think there's two types of analgesia to be honest. Analgesia of the body and analgesia of the mind.

From what I've read - there is no better drug for taking away 'mental' pain than Cocaine. People say that while Meth and Amp is like a really nice confidence booster - nothing can compare to IV cocaine. Specially I remember someone saying that IV cocaine is like a total self-esteem blocker. It doesn't matter how depressed and worthless you feel, IV cocaine takes that all away and more. Amphetamine (from personal experience) does a pretty good job at doing that. However, I still have social anxiety on my Adderall. While IV cocaine is like a whole different ballpark. People say you could be a total social rejective loser, and no one could ever tell. I wish I could input from experience, but I'm never going to try coke. Let alone IV usage of it.

Hardest stim I'm ever going to try is MDMA. I tried it over a year ago now (although, after reading experience after experience, I'm pretty sure what I got was Methylone). I want to try MDMA so badly because of how amazing people say it makes music sound. I've experienced that a couple times when I first started Adderall and it was THE most euphoric thing I've ever experienced. Being so into the music like that was beyond anything I've ever experienced since then.

Anyways. I believe the best analgesic of the body is probably something like Secobarbital or maybe Versed. Benzo's (which I've taken) and (I imagine) Barbs are the best for numbing the body because of their powerful depressant effects. On a high dose of benzo's you are still aware of your self-esteem issues, and you're still aware if your depression and the huge cut on your arm - but you just come to accept that and drift off into sleep. You know that life will still be as shitty as it was when you wake up. You know that giant bruise is gonna hurt like a motherfucker when you comedown - but... you just accept it. You accept that this is life and there's nothing you can do about it. You don't like it, you don't want it, but you can accept it. Because you know that you'll at least have some peace, some kind of relief during those peaceful hours of sleep and while nothing is going to be resolved in the morning (and that it may actually be worse) you can accept that fact long enough to feel at peace.

Opioids are a mix of the two. And probably (overall) the best for both. Stimulants give you this powerful euphoria. Full of energy, full of life, no depression, everything is awesome. Benzo's just make it so you don't care, but opioids are like a potluck of the two. You get a powerful, yet dulled euphoria where everything is amazing and you just don't care.
 
Well, i like the above post.

Meth kills all my pain. I now have bad carpital tunnel sydrome and cant feel it when im high, but to the point of hurting it and making it worse. I also cant feel the pain of a full bladder until its about to explode or the pain of sitting fucked up for 24 hours until im sober.

Its definitely an attention thing, less physical feedback is coming through, you dont notice things, you are focused elsewhere.
I wont feel real pain like an exploding bladder until i notice it and then i feel it. But pain is definitely less of an issue though, less of a strong sensation.

I would say it doesnt reduce the pain, as you can identify it as the same level of pain, however your tolerance to that pain is very much improved. Hard to explain but a pain that would annoy me all day could be noticed and forgotten about quickly, hardly bothering me at all, but it still feels the same, it just has less of an impact.

I rem on coke once, apparently somebody punched me in the face twice hard from the side (cheap shot), and i never even realized. As far as i remember (and i was clear headed only on coke) he patted me on the shoulder or something so i responded with something equally friendly and probably really confusing to him. First and only real fight ive been in and i miss it completely. I think they shat themselves at my reaction as they left quickly after that, thinking im some kind of psycho or something. Apparently my face didnt even move or react like i was made of rock, only realized there was somebody to my right somehow drawing my attention. Fukin stims really do make your superhuman.
 
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As someone who had danced the opiate dance many times, I can definitely attest to the value of amphetamines during acute and prolonged WDs. I would never say it takes it away completely though, there is still a part of me that feels like something is missing.
 
I guess I'm the minority here because when I went through hydro withdrawals (after 6 months of 40 milligrams a day use), Adderall just made life twenty times worse. It made me so sick and I puked so much that I honestly thought I was going to die...

I had to use an enema to keep myself hydrated because every time I'd drink even the smallest amount of water - I'd instantly throw up. All in all, the only positive thing about that experience was learning how to keep myself hydrated when not able to drink any fluids.
 
SWIM* told me that crack relieved her pain even better than meth. I would still not recommend trying crack, though.

*I don't swim. This really wasn't me.
 
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