Yeah I guess its hard to tell what sort of vibe a person is giving off through the internet haha its okay I was just trying to figure out what was the best solution. I've decided I'm quitting dope tonight. After this cap I'm not buying any more. As I said I have three and a half suboxen strips. Can I take one when I wake up tomorrow? I mean how long between my last shot and the suboxen should I wait? Will the subs stop the chills & bullshit? I wonder is willpower + three and a half subs enough to kick the habit? My birthday is Tuesday and I wanna be clean. I'm ready to stop. I'm sick of being sick and I can't fuckin hit anyways.
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Eveleivibe
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Please empty your PM I'M trying to E-mail you.
That's enough to help. I mean most detoxes don't use much more than that anyway. To get the most out of it wait as long as possible before taking it. 36 hours is ideal but I understand that's difficult so 24 hours is more realistic in some cases.
Start off with 4mg, and if that's not helping enough after 3 hours then take 2mg more and if that's still not enough then take one last 2mg dose. Taking anymore than that doesn't really help more, so no need to waste more by doing that.
On day 2 take 4-6mg, in 2mg increments like the day before, and by day 3 get down to 4mg and drop down to 2mg the next day or day after, and basically feel out the taper from there.
Taking a total daily dose such as the following over a week or so should work well.
6-5-4-4-3-2-2-1-1
I dunno what mg they are.. My boyfriend gave me them in a cellophane. He was pretending to take them lol. I have one in the original wrapper. I need to know how well it'll help the chills? What if I cant take 24 hours before I need it? I'm so scared...I don't know anything about suboxone I'm just trying to get through the WD without relapsing on dope
BlueHues
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^I think I remember you saying you have either 8 mg pills or strips?
Either way, you need to break them into eighths...each eighth is roughly 1mg...
Wait 24 full hours or until you're in full withdrawal, and then try the method Tommy explained a few posts ago...you dose them under your tongue..
Either way, you need to break them into eighths...each eighth is roughly 1mg...
Wait 24 full hours or until you're in full withdrawal, and then try the method Tommy explained a few posts ago...you dose them under your tongue..
Mr.Scagnattie
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It's normal to be scared. But, trust me.. the suboxone will work. You wont have the chills you're worried about, nothing. The right dose of bupe literally makes you feel great.
There is this thing called the COWS scale, (google it), that doctors use to gauge how serious your withdrawal is and when you're ready to take the first dose of suboxone. You want to be in moderate-severe withdrawals before taking your first dose. For most people, that's around 24 hours.. sometimes less, sometimes more.
The other important thing is to start slow. Take low doses to start with to build it up in your system and avoid precipitated withdrawls.
We can guide you through your induction, and if you follow my advice, I can get you on suboxone and stabilized with no withdrawals at all.
The strips come in two strengths. 2mg and 8mg. If your strip says N2 it's 2mg, if it says N8 it's 8mg. Wait until you feel like complete crap before dosing suboxone.
You must be withdrawing real bad before you dose. Why? If you dose too soon YOU WILL GO INTO THE WORST WOTHDRAWAL OF YOUR LIFE. They call it "precipitated withdrawal" it's god awful, and if you're ever so unlucky as to feel it, you'll wish you were dead. You have been warned.
Now some people say wait 24+ hours and you'll be fine... This isn't always the case. If you waited 24 hours and you're not atleast at a 9/10 on the "I feel like shit" scale of withdrawal, you are NOT READY. Wait until you are squirming in pain to dose.
Follow tommyboy's taper plan, that's rock solid. I'd heed his wisdom if I were you. And ALWAYS REMEMBER: with suboxone, less truly is more. If you're wondering what I mean about that, go back a couple pages in this thread and I'm sure you'll see what I mean.
Best of luck to ya mdmazing, you're taking one step toward getting better, pat yourself on the back for that, it's hard to do what you're doing. I know, I've been there! I'm rooting for ya =]
You must be withdrawing real bad before you dose. Why? If you dose too soon YOU WILL GO INTO THE WORST WOTHDRAWAL OF YOUR LIFE. They call it "precipitated withdrawal" it's god awful, and if you're ever so unlucky as to feel it, you'll wish you were dead. You have been warned.
Now some people say wait 24+ hours and you'll be fine... This isn't always the case. If you waited 24 hours and you're not atleast at a 9/10 on the "I feel like shit" scale of withdrawal, you are NOT READY. Wait until you are squirming in pain to dose.
Follow tommyboy's taper plan, that's rock solid. I'd heed his wisdom if I were you. And ALWAYS REMEMBER: with suboxone, less truly is more. If you're wondering what I mean about that, go back a couple pages in this thread and I'm sure you'll see what I mean.
Best of luck to ya mdmazing, you're taking one step toward getting better, pat yourself on the back for that, it's hard to do what you're doing. I know, I've been there! I'm rooting for ya =]
Buprenorphine
Bluelighter
Yeah Google def works lol unless they wants personal experiences with those two substances right? I been on both I like sub better but everybody is diff...
So adding it up, there's 28 mg total..three 8mg strips and a half which is 4 I guess haha. I have the chills already and everywhere I've ever shot up is extremely sore.. I'm gonna wait it out as long as possible. It's been 11 hours so 13 more to go I guess.. I wanna shoot up so bad but I can't tell if its more because of feeling like shit, or if its out of habit.. my eyes are crying dude its so annoying!!! So do I have enough subs to take and make it through WD? I always give in but thisis tthe firstttime I've had suboxone though. Hopefully I can do this. Thanks for all the input!!
Mr.Scagnattie
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Yeah you have plenty of subs to make it through a detox. You'll see, once you take that first dose (provided you waited long enough) you'll feel 10x better. You won't be sick. So, I know it sucks waiting to dose and that you're suffering now, but just know that relief is around the corner. Don't rush it, because then you'll get PW's and those really suck, and you'll have to induct all over again. So, do it right the first time ya know?
Good luck.
Yeah you have plenty of subs to make it through a detox. You'll see, once you take that first dose (provided you waited long enough) you'll feel 10x better. You won't be sick. So, I know it sucks waiting to dose and that you're suffering now, but just know that relief is around the corner. Don't rush it, because then you'll get PW's and those really suck, and you'll have to induct all over again. So, do it right the first time ya know?
Good luck.
Eveleivibe
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I think you've been given ace advice here. These guys know what they're talking about n yes defo look at the cows scale n make sure you're in moderate to severe withdrawal n wait 24-36 hours before induction or you'll be in a bad withdrawal (sorry, what's the name for that again? Way too tired to get my laptop out n research it).
Please try not to be scared as long as you do everything right you'll be fine.
I can't say anything re tapering as I've not done that - only inducted n maintained. But as I say these guys know they're stuff.
I'd suggest to you to come here daily through your taper so that we can support you through it.
Don 't worry about the chills n stuff - a lot of people have done short suboxone tapers n come through the other side. We had someone here recently who completed, I think, a 21-day taper with success.
You take care ok n please look up the COWS scale. We're here for you.
Evey xxxx
Please try not to be scared as long as you do everything right you'll be fine.
I can't say anything re tapering as I've not done that - only inducted n maintained. But as I say these guys know they're stuff.
I'd suggest to you to come here daily through your taper so that we can support you through it.
Don 't worry about the chills n stuff - a lot of people have done short suboxone tapers n come through the other side. We had someone here recently who completed, I think, a 21-day taper with success.
You take care ok n please look up the COWS scale. We're here for you.
Evey xxxx
BlueHues
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The only thing I might do differently from Tommy's post is start with 2mgs instead of 4, but I think he may have meant to write that...It's better to start low in the beginning to see how it hits you...but everything else I agree with...
There's a lot of different methods that people use, but the general consensus on what's worked well for everyone on BL is similar to the method Tommy laid out in his post...
If you were on a long Suboxone taper, I'd suggest going lower than 1 mg, but for a quick taper like this, stopping at 1mg should be fine...
Now, you probably won't feel 100% at the end of the taper, but the goal of it is to avoid the really nasty withdrawal symptoms...
There's a lot of different methods that people use, but the general consensus on what's worked well for everyone on BL is similar to the method Tommy laid out in his post...
If you were on a long Suboxone taper, I'd suggest going lower than 1 mg, but for a quick taper like this, stopping at 1mg should be fine...
Now, you probably won't feel 100% at the end of the taper, but the goal of it is to avoid the really nasty withdrawal symptoms...
oldhippytony
Bluelighter
I'm glad to see you checked in with us this morning. I was beginning to wonder/worry. If you do this right, you will be in "moderate withdrawal" (read sick like a mofo), then take the sub (2 mg is prob a good place to start, I agree) and then 20-30 minutes later ... slowly ... you will be amazed as the chills, RLS, stomach cramping, gooseflesh, etc. begin to slowly melt away.
Eveleivibe
Ex-Bluelighter
Ah yes I remember my induction. Kept taking 2 mg doses throughout the day scared as ell as I'd heard some right horror stories. I'm not going to repeat them n make you paranoid but you get the drift. I remember getting to 6 mg n all was ace. You'll be fine - as suggested dose in small intervals throughout the day for day 1 because you may still have dope in you n the suboxone basically smacks it all out xxxx
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They actually have more doses than that. They have 4mg strips which are actually 2x the length of the 8s for some reason. I think they have 12mg strips too but I'm not sure of the size of them.
Eveleivibe
Ex-Bluelighter
The pills only come in 2mg or 8mg form, well at least in the UK anyway. Not sure about the strips. Never even heard of those until I came here xxxx
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
^^
You don't get the strips in the UK?
You don't get the strips in the UK?
Guys I'm not as strong as I thought.. I shot up before 24 hours was up.. I didn't make it. 
I'm going to try again once this shit I got earlier is gone.. its so hard with such little support from my boyfriend and none from my family. My boyfriend also uses and says he's gonna get high if I do, but if I stop so will he. It just seems to complicate things.. I wanted us to get clean together.. I'm ashamed because I wanna stop and I gave in...
I'm going to try again once this shit I got earlier is gone.. its so hard with such little support from my boyfriend and none from my family. My boyfriend also uses and says he's gonna get high if I do, but if I stop so will he. It just seems to complicate things.. I wanted us to get clean together.. I'm ashamed because I wanna stop and I gave in...
Flaga121
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I found switching from my OC habit (being honest, i'd say 80-120mg a day, unfortunately) to Bupe to be the easiest thing I had ever done in my life. The withdrawal was pretty easy to deal with knowing I had infinite fixes on the other side (had cheap, easy access to Bupe without a script so no docs to satisfy). Also, because your not aiming for clean but rather switching drugs, I don't see the same issues with using drugs to get through the 24 hour period. Due to NDMA activity most dissociative do a solid job of masking w/d without interfering with the time you would take your Bupe.
Give it a shot, I ended up MUCH preferring the feeling of Bupe to OC. The long half life allowed me to be the most normal, yet 100% addicted, person in the world. I live and work with a bunch of shrinks (I am a shrink too) and they never noticed my Bupe habit. I never would have gotten this job (or my license) as an OC user. I found the energy Bupe gave me amazing, and in contrast to what others said, Bupe gets me high as a kite. No anxiety, limited "cares", numbed pain, euphoria. Better (for ME) then any aspect of OC other then the initial rush when you rail (or shoot) the substance while already high. I found the switch from Bupe to nothing impossible multiple times and was only recently able to switch to Kratom. But the difference between needing regular fixes to feel anything close to normal and being able to go about a day and a half without a dose is a major difference. The half life of Bupe means you almost never need to worry about taking your next (easy to get of course) dose. It allowed me to feel much less dependent on the substance.
and random personal note, 3 days off Bupe.
Give it a shot, I ended up MUCH preferring the feeling of Bupe to OC. The long half life allowed me to be the most normal, yet 100% addicted, person in the world. I live and work with a bunch of shrinks (I am a shrink too) and they never noticed my Bupe habit. I never would have gotten this job (or my license) as an OC user. I found the energy Bupe gave me amazing, and in contrast to what others said, Bupe gets me high as a kite. No anxiety, limited "cares", numbed pain, euphoria. Better (for ME) then any aspect of OC other then the initial rush when you rail (or shoot) the substance while already high. I found the switch from Bupe to nothing impossible multiple times and was only recently able to switch to Kratom. But the difference between needing regular fixes to feel anything close to normal and being able to go about a day and a half without a dose is a major difference. The half life of Bupe means you almost never need to worry about taking your next (easy to get of course) dose. It allowed me to feel much less dependent on the substance.
and random personal note, 3 days off Bupe.
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