EADD Benzo Discussion V. I forget

[wcote]

Really? Diclazepam I thought it was shit.

Must have been dodgy pellets as I was completely underwhelmed.

 

[Mental Kenny]

Really? Diclazepam I thought it was shit.

Must have been dodgy pellets as I was completely underwhelmed.

Excellent for anxiety and long lasting relaxation that is, not recreationaly. They go really well with beer and opiates


If you want something more fun go for the pyrazolam, snort them or take them sublingual.

 

[Grassman]

They're a genuine generic brand of diazepam from india so if they are real they will do the trick. biopose only do 5mg tablets and ampules for injection (5mg/2ml) so any strengths outside of this will be dodj.

Really? I just ordered 10mg ones. The picture of the packet looked real, but I'm no pro. Does that mean they are fake?

 

[wcote]

Yeah had them with beer.

I like etiz but its not great for the memory.

Might try pyrazolam not tried it heard it was pants.

 

[Shambles]

By the way that 1mg of diclaz=10mgs of etiz, is completely off the charts Shambles, like seriously, I recko you must have been really peeved up and made a mess of your solution.

For me I reckon from what I've been doing the past week or so, to obtain the same level of relaxation that 4 or 5 mgs of diclazepam would give me I need about 14mgs of flubromazepam, something like that.

Edited my post, I meant 1mg diclaz = 10mg diaz which does sound about right to me. I was peev'd up when I made the solution but was also going on the idea that it was more like equivalency 10mg diclaz = 1mg etiz (or 10mg or diaz, perhaps) and therein lies my problem, no doubt. I simply got my benzos mixed up which is no small issue when dealing with drugs whose dosages should be measured in single digits. I'm sure I'd've been fine if I'd made the solution whilst sober and double - then triple - checked my equivalencies. As it is, I fukked up plain and simple.

Wasn't meaning to say that diclaz is a "problem benzo" in the same way phenaz is or owt, simply that its potency took me by surprise as most of what I recall people saying about it is that it's disappointing and kinda weak. Was just pointing out that it definitely ain't weak. As for being better of with pills, if they were professionally pressed then yes. But these are vendor-pressed "pellets" (stupid bloody word - can anyone remember why they use that instead of "pills" or "tablets"? I do recall there being a specific reason they have to use the term "pellets" but am buggered if I can recall what that reason is. Summat to do with the Medicines Act, maybe? Although probably not as herbal stuff comes as pills and tablets not 'pellets' so fuck nose). We all know that vendor-pressed pellets tend to be rather variable in potency and are more like a "best guesstimate" rather than a reliable guide. A properly prepared solution would likely be far more reliable than any vendor tabs.

Really? Diclazepam I thought it was shit.

Must have been dodgy pellets as I was completely underwhelmed.

Precisely my point.

 

[ColtDan]

Yeah had them with beer.

I like etiz but its not great for the memory.

Might try pyrazolam not tried it heard it was pants.

Its not pants but its like beer compared to vodka in terms of strength. has a decent lil buzz, anti anxiety, no mongy-ness or memory loss

 

[Mental Kenny]

Did 16 pyrazolams today, plus 4 flubromazepams this morning. I have to say they are awesome for anxiety, absolutely great, but if you want a benzo to mong you out, look elsewhere, these are perfect for social anxiety, job interviews, interacting with coworkers, this type of thing. Incredible how normal you look while on them, trust me, my dad can spot if I've taken just a few mgs f etizolam, I just sat for dinner with him and he didn't notice a fucking thing.

The Flubromazepams, I quite like, ordered a gram of powder as the pellets just aren't cost effective, they seem cheap, but at the end of the day when you have to neck four just to feel something they start to lose their point. 4mgs for each pellet just isn't enough, as soon as I get the powder I'll make my own capsules with 10mgs.

Same thing with pyraz, although I wouldn't trust myself buying a powder of something active in the mg range, I'm sure the mother of all trainwrecks would be the only possible outcome. I hope the vendors start selling pellets with at least 2 or 3 mgs each, as the current yellow ones with half a mg, are fucking useless individually, seriously, I ate an army of them.

I had a bag with a fucking ton of them just the day before yesterday and now I only have four left.

 

[plmar]

etizolam > diazepam

it goes great with alcohol and is better for anxiety than diazepam

3mg or so and you're completely calm, also it seems to make me feel a little warm too, no anxiety no stress for a couple hours. great stuff

 

[Uncle Robert]

For future reference what a good benzo route to take for getting sleep after a day on stims?

Brief reading into it seems like diazepam, clonazepam or xanax (the more expensive).

Didn't see many suggestions for etizolam - not great for sleep?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

entirely depends on tolerance, if you have no tolerance 2mg will knock you out, even after stims. If you regularly take it though the tolerance to the hypnotic effects is the first thing to rise. Tolerance doesnt seem to rise to the anxiolytic effects, which i still find amazing and incredible, after 3 years of daily use 1mg still delivers effective anxiolysis.

 

[Sammy G]

For future reference what a good benzo route to take for getting sleep after a day on stims?

Brief reading into it seems like diazepam, clonazepam or xanax (the more expensive).

Didn't see many suggestions for etizolam - not great for sleep?

Nitrazepam. Provided you don't have to be up early the next day.

Xanax will knock you out, sure, and you'll feel pretty refreshed. Etizolam too. You'll still start to flag halfway through the day though.

Nothing beats a nitrazepam sleep after stims,. Except proper sleep, but obviously that may not be an option.

 

[Uncle Robert]

^ cheers, I'll put it on the shopping list

 

[Shambles]

Xanax all the way for me for sleep. The only one that leaves me feeling completely fresh the next morning like I've actually had a good night's sleep. Clonaz and diaz are more for anxiety than sleep really. Nitraz I can't stand cos it just has me feeling like a zombie for days.

Am still kinda wanting a benzo "in stock" for general use of the practical kinda rather than recreational. Bit unsure which road to go down. I don't have access to any branded stuff or I'd be on the K-pins like a shot. And the Xannies (yes both cos I use 'em for completely diffferent reasons). Realistically, it's gonna have to be a choice between etiz, diclaz and flubromaz. I'm leaning toward etiz as it seems a good all-rounder. Diclaz didn't seem like it would fit the bill for me when I had some last week although admittedly being peev'd up is not a good baseline to judge effects by. Seemed like it would be pretty good for anxiety but the ease of slipping over into active blackout territory is definitely concerning. Although I guess that's a risk with any benzo if you get yer equivalancies all screwed up like I did 8)

 

[Uncle Robert]

Hmm Xanax I can get from UK so domestic would be nice.

Also holy poo benzos are cheap! Xanax is nearly triple the price of Nitrazepam (dirt cheap).

Xanax vs Nitrazepam for productivity the next day?

 

[Shambles]

Xanax. No question. Nitraz has a beast of a half-life and is very sedating looooooooong into the next day (and indeed the day after that in my case).

Also, dirt cheap benzos in the UK?!? I either haz mad drug enviez or mad drug sympathiez for when you get bumped. One or t'other. Hope it's the former, you lucky swine

 

[Mental Kenny]

I just posted this in the Gibberings, might be more useful here:

Mmm chewed a couple of those new white diclaz pellets about an hour and half ago, obviously I had already done 4 pyraz earlier, feeling pretty nice and chilled. Sun is out, if only it weren't for my gut problems, still getting chills and pain in my belly, annoying.

Anyway from what I gathered from my last experiments:

Pyraz: absolutely fantastic for anxiety, for work and social settings, not sedating, doesn't make you slur or stumble even at silly doses, just keep the doses as low as possible for anxiety relief when needed. Do not try to do it recreationally, it's a bloody waste, I went through 50 of the fuckers in 3 days trying to catch that benzo buzz or at least a stone. Use them medically for anxiety relief

Diclazepam: The best of the lot, strong on the body, decent sedation and mood lift, lasts for ages, good price/effectiveness ratio. These have the blackout potential though, so be careful not to overdo them.

Flubromazepam: Can't wait for the powder to arrive as those 4mg pellets were a piss take from the vendors, hate to have to take four tablets just to feel anything. They're good.

Anyway, we're pretty spoiled with RC benzos at the moment, hope it lasts

 

[Uncle Robert]

Xanax. No question. Nitraz has a beast of a half-life and is very sedating looooooooong into the next day (and indeed the day after that in my case).

Also, dirt cheap benzos in the UK?!? I either haz mad drug enviez or mad drug sympathiez for when you get bumped. One or t'other. Hope it's the former, you lucky swine

Can't remember, am I allowed to post prices? I'm just assuming the prices I'm seeing are cheap as I'd only be using one every now and then, no idea how many you'd take a day if properly on them.

 

[Shambles]

Prices for personal amounts of drugs are allowed but not for bulk. So, for example, you could give the price per pill or per box but not per pallet. Common sense should tell you where the line is drawn. I've actually never bought benzos on the black market as such, just a few Xannies and Clonaz and a bit of diaz powder but they were all from friends at 'mate's rates' afaik.

 

[Uncle Robert]

Xanax from uk £1.9 per 1mg bar
Xanax from north america ~£1.20 per 2mg bar
Xanax from north america ~£0.70 per 1mg bar

Nitrazepam from India ~£0.65 per 10mg bar
Nitrazepam from n america ~£0.60 per 5mg bar

Hmm looking at Kenny's recent posts of how many you'd take recreationally maybe it would add up!

 

[Sammy G]

Flubromazepam: Can't wait for the powder to arrive as those 4mg pellets were a piss take from the vendors, hate to have to take four tablets just to feel anything. They're good.

I'm not too keen to see the arrival of powdered flubromazepam. I think it could be a disaster on par with phenazepam; possibly even worse due to its recreational appeal.

I took it for a short period last autumn and ended up doing lots of stupid and regrettable shit, and that was at 'responsible' doses.

Xanax. No question. Nitraz has a beast of a half-life and is very sedating looooooooong into the next day (and indeed the day after that in my case).

The half-life can catch you out, yeah, but I've never had real problems with it apart from the times I've had a drink or taken opis the next day. Wouldn't fancy driving or operating a bandsaw the night after a reasonable dose though.