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Is MDMA "deep"? your opinion.

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Ok, so I read a lot of people say that MDMA can provide deep experiences with insight and realizations.


so yesterday I tried it for the first time. I took ~.3 divided into 2 doses (I know it's a lot for a first timer but I don't think it was 100% pure, anyways i think it was good) it was a LOVELY feeling, I had 0 worries, an amazing body feeling of ecstasy, a general mental wellness and lots of energy, allowing me to dance for like 5 hours without any hint of tiredness (of course I made sure to keep hydratated) yet I was very relaxed.
all in all a marvelous feeling, easily the most pleasurable drug i've ever tried and the best for a social setting BUT it wasn't a profound experience.
I didn't have much insight and it wasn't a very deep experience. I may be wrong tho, because it was only yesterday and maybe I have to integrate and thnk about the e experience. in fact I don't feel depressed by the serotonin depletion and actually feel better than usual, maybe it's the afterglow or maybe it's that i'm home instead of being at school ahah we'll see if it's long lasting

anyway, do you think MDMA might provide deep or even spiritual experiences? can you tell your story?
 
I think it REALLY depends on how you take it. MDxx on it's own in a personal setting can be VERY therapeutic, but with other people it can quickly turn into a hedonistic experience only tuned to feel fucking GOOD..... which is an easily outgrowable trait.


I've found MDA to be MUCH more introspective, though. Personally I just don't see MDMA in the same way, although that doesn't mean it can't be used as such.
 
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No it's more of a party drug or a social lubricant (sometimes to much of a social lubricant, talking shit all night, not like meth were it's almost forced/pressured though). Some people get in touch with their feelings more and express them as it kind of breaks down your social inhibitions (like booze) but does not make you lose your sense of control (unlike booze). Not deep and spiritual like say 2ce. 2ce had me seriously considering becoming a member of the Temple of the True Inner Light as at the time that seemed the only rational and logical thing to do as they had discovered the truth to existence is opened by the gateway of psychedelic substance.

WOW profound and utter drug induced bullshit. I also stood for an extended period of time in some kind of yoga stance and continued to cycle into different yoga positions, which I've done a bit of so no major surprise. Thing is my GF came to visit and found me lotus position extended to one foot standing semi squat and one leg folded... Weird. Deep. Off my tit's. Yes. Meaning full and profound outside the drug induced experience: No.
 
ComfortablyNumb95 said:
all in all a marvelous feeling, easily the most pleasurable drug i've ever tried and the best for a social setting BUT it wasn't a profound experience.
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I have tried MDMA a few times in a social setting, with effects like you described. Mostly 130mg + 40mg.
This NYE I took 100mg at home, with my GF. "Deep" in every sense. Hedonistic, yes of course, but also very meaningful.
We basically washed eachother, and after that had sex for 3hours (climaxing once, together, at the end). During sex we would change position and start talking about our feelings. We felt eachothers spiritual heart.
Never felt so peaceful. Before I only knew this feeling from mushrooms, taken alone. It was marvellous to share it with someone, esp my GF.
 
Yes.

I say this because it is one of the drugs I think of as being amongst those that helped bring me round from a painfully shy and awkward, deeply depressed and pessimistic, misanthropic arsehole into... well... hopefully not quite as bad as I once was. Between MDMA and psychedelics I am alive and (mostly) happy, caring and optimistic. Not all the time, of course, but compared to how I was... I really don't think I'd be alive today if I hadn't rediscovered MDMA/entactogens and psychedelics when I did and MDMA was one of the major catalysts for this. It helped (and helps) to make me a better person. I really don't see how much more depth anybody could wish for.
 
thanks guys , your imput is much much appreciated.
now, 2 days after the experience I am beginning to integrate it and I'm beginning to understand the very nature of it.
here is what I thought: the experience wasn't introspective, as in I didn't have realizations about myself etc. but during the whole time while I was dancing and feeling extremely good I was feeling ALIVE, the energy of life was flowing trough me and I hadn't felt this way for a long time, maybe never.
this exprience lifted me from a period of sadness where I didn't know where I was going to and wtf I was doing with my life.
it sure hasn't solved my problems but gave me hope and showed me that life can be very good (even sober life)

now I feel alive, I feel mostly anxiety free and ready to experience the very beauty of life.
maybe it's just an afterglow and it won't be long lasting, but I feel like I've made a step towards realisation and life makes more sense to me now.

so looking back, maybe it was a profound experience, very refreshing for sure.
 
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Dont think so. It produces false feelings brought on by its euphoric effects that tend to be baseless when sober. Like feeling a strong connection when you roll with a girl, when truly you just met her and she could be an evil bitch.
 
Sex on E is an interesting experience + 1 Achten! I wasn't as compassionate a lover before I took E and had sex. Indeed the empathy experienced allowed me to anticipate my lovers desires and react accordingly. This was both during foreplay and during intercourse although the concept became blurred. In order to maximize my partner at the times pleasure I began to understand sex is so much more than just the basic stuff. Places to kiss, to stroke, to hold and all kinds of techniques. This in turn roused my curiosity and I began to read about Taoist sexual techniques and Kama Sutra etc. Great sexual awareness enhancer for my youth.
 
Yes for sure. First time MDMA for me was a life changing experience. Even the idea that there is a possibility for human being to feel something that good is stunning. It is really a profound experience and I think everyone should try MDMA in their life at least once. Even more so than psychedelics.

MDMA is probably the most effective treatment for PSTD and I don't wonder why. It just opens the window and let you see the world as it should be seen. First time I had MDMA i had months lasting afterglow. Still when I look back the day i took it is one of the best days of my life. Never felt an urge to abuse MDMA tho, I have taken it 4 times total in almost 2 years.
 
I agree with others, it kind of depends how you use it. But yes, I do believe MDMA is a 'deep' experience. When you experience those feelings of inner peace, calm and contempt with the world it feels deep and meaningful. I always come out the other end feeling rejuvenated with a new sense of happiness and enjoyment for life (albeit only temporary). MDMA helped me to understand myself and dissolve my ego which I think is a 'deep' gain from a drug.
 
I may find it deep because I've done it only with calm environment like home with my closest friends. Not like in rave or something with people I know, only with people I love also when I'm not high. Real bonding experiences..
 
It can be deep, very deep, if you get to talking to somebody who is important to you and you have a need to resolve stuff in your life.
 
Do you prefer MDMA with 1-2 friends at home or in a rave?

I never tried it anywhere but in private setting, should I give it a go? Should be indeed a rave where others were rolling also.. There are some festivals coming in summer where I think I could try it

I think deep experiences are really more prone to happen in private settings

 
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set & setting completely.
Raving it up with a bunch of randys, nope not at all
Home with friends or in therapy, yes it can be.
Wouldn't class it along the same same lines as psychedelics though, but again set & setting.
 
It feels extremely real and deep while your on it, but i feel like it's all false. You'll be a at a rave , meet many people that night. Tell them they are the coolest people you have ever met. Tell your friends how much you love them etc etc. But once you are sober together, even though you still like each other you know that wasn't exactly the truth and you go back to your regular self.

That is serotonin and dopamine speaking for you, as simple as that.
 
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It feels extremely real and deep while your on it, but i feel like it's all false. You'll be a at a rave , meet many people that night. Tell them they are the coolest people you have ever met. Tell your friends how much you love them etc etc. But once you are sober together, even though you still like each other you know that wasn't exactly the truth and you go back to your regular self.

That is serotonin and dopamine speaking for you, as simple as that.
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Thats the one thing I think taking it with strangers would suck.

Taking it with one of my best friends, thats something. Real therapeutic deep bonding. Doesnt feel fake at all, just made us even closer.
 
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