3 years n that s me done

[One Thousand Words]

I think that was a bit harsh SS. A more positive interpretation of what hes saying could be 'im fucking living a life, whilst a lot of other people just seem to be taking drugs sat infront of a computer all the time'. Well yeah, it is a forum for drugs nerds, so that would be the case a lot of the time. Even the drugs nerds have occasionally done things though and still plan to do things in the future, and not just take drugs alone all the time and chat about it.

I dont know anything about these clashes that SHM refers to. Sometimes clashes can be the end of something, sometimes they can be the start of something new.

It never used to be like that though buddy. It used to be about a bunch of ravers shooting the shit Monday to Friday, suffering through a come down before we all met up Friday night and got fucked up together. Rinse and repeat. Well it was for me any way.

I just drove child of the beat to the airport at 5:30am and we both laughed that in the past the only time we would be driving at this time on a Sunday morning we were wearing the same clothes from 24 hr earlier and were more than likely to be unwrapping the k and hoping that someone had brewed a tea for when we arrived home through the front door.

I agree with SS, you have to evolve though. No use viewing the past as the glory days or even looking down at today's kids as missing out. As long as you have air in your lungs and life in your loins it should be about sunrises and manic laughing no matter what drug you are on.

Now you roll that spliff while I rack up the ket......

 

[Shambles]

I agree with SS, you have to evolve though. No use viewing the past as the glory days or even looking down at today's kids as missing out. As long as you have air in your lungs and life in your loins it should be about sunrises and manic laughing no matter what drug you are on.

Now you roll that spliff while I rack up the ket......

I tend to agree with this. I'm as guilty as anyone of my generation of harking back to yoofodom when drugs were drugs and raves were raves and all that. But I also know that it's very easy to get stuck in a rut thinking like that all the time and you really do end up being a walking cliche. I'm another of those ageing smackheads who likes to reminisce over years of partying mostly long gone... but I also like to look forward to years of partying to come. I get the feeling these kinda things can become self-fulfilling prophecies all too easily.

 

[swedger77]

^ pretty much agreed, although there is no doubt electronic music has taken a pounding after the US caught up.

Having said that when i listen (albeit retrospectively) to my old rave days tapes......its pretty fucking cringey now. Really bad, fast as fuck beats with dodgy at best mixing with MC who either made or destroyed a set.

 

[Shambles]

I can't even pretend to have really kept up with music like I used to but have yet to run out of new tunes that are as good - if not better - than ever. I do have a softspot for the more oldskool stuff, of course (who doesn't as they get older?) but am by no means stuck in the past musically. There was some amazing music around back then and some truly horrible, cringey crap. I'm fairly certain that will apply to everybody who likes any music - perhaps especially electronic music as technology changes as well as styles. It's surely mostly down to the fact that it's fun being young cos stuff is new to you and you're forming yourself from what is around you. It's when people decide to stop that process completely that's perhaps a problem. Obviously you slow down a bit and maybe don't throw yourself into new music in quite the same all-consuming way you do in your teens/twenties but there's no reason for anybody to be set in stone. There's always plenty exciting stuffs going on. I may not get out to see much of it at the moment but I have no doubt it's there and am looking forward to situation changing so as I can make better use of that fact.

 

[swedger77]

^ya i guess so. Back in the day, commercial dance music was equally as shit as it is now.

Big difference now is there is a whole generation id kidz blinkered into thinking this is the way is needs to be.

 

[Mental Kenny]

Personally, this is one of the most cunty threads ive read for awhile. brag brag brag "im a fukin old skool raver m8 u kids dont kno nuffin represtin im the fukin bollocks init i cant type worth a wank because im noddin out but i aint a fukin junkie m8 u all need to get a life"

Spot on, for some reason unknown to me, Brimz seems to get a free pass when it comes to some type of behaviour that others definately wouldn't be able to get away with.

He used to be an excellent poster, sharing incredibly intersting stories about his life experiences and travels, his "heroin war stories" is to this day one of the finest threads ever opened on this site, yet at some point something changed, it's not the forum that's changed it's the user.

Lately he's become incredibly arrogant and displays an up your own arsehole mentality to outdo OTW, seems like all he does lately is to brag, brag about being the ultimate heroin user, as if that's something to be proud of, brag of how much free meds he manages to get off at the taxpayer's expense and adopted an attitude where he seems to look down on others, like "if you weren't around that gathering in the spring of 1988 well then sorry mate but you don't know what raving is"

Also the constant spamming of rap videos in every fuckig thread, we have not one, but several threads dedicated to that type of music and b-boy/hip-hop lifestyle, yet he can't help himself spam youtube gangsta videos everywhere on EADD.

You seem to have a much higher unrealistic delusional opinion of yourself, some people, myself included gave you compliments in the past saying you were a legend of sorts but that seems to have gotten over your head, trust me mate, you won't be missed around here nowhere near as much as you'd like to think you will be. Illiterate, arrogant, junky, with some unresolved issues, there's plenty out there like that who can replace you.

 

[Mental Kenny]

i don't want rip ya Dan don't make me it ain't hard so just chill init

Wow that's what 14 year old yardie gangsta wannabe kids say to each other over at DrumandBaseArena. Fucking hell, man. You're really stepping so low as to threaten Dan?

As Yeti from The Firm would say" you see that door yeah? Fucking use it"

 

[One Thousand Words]

^ya i guess so. Back in the day, commercial dance music was equally as shit as it is now.

Big difference now is there is a whole generation id kidz blinkered into thinking this is the way is needs to be.

The only reason you say you rave for the music, not the drugs is to keep your parents or guidance councillor happy. I've never liked edm, give me the right stimulus though and I'll happy stomp the dance floor while some guy taps out a banging beat using to rusty tin cans. Evolution until you procreate then you wish things never change because you will only miss out on cooler things once you die (or get too old to care)

 

[Mental Kenny]

The only reason you say you rave for the music, not the drugs is to keep your parents or guidance councillor happy. I've never liked edm, give me the right stimulus though and I'll happy stomp the dance floor while some guy taps out a banging beat using to rusty tin cans. Evolution until you procreate then you wish things never change because you will only miss out on cooler things once you die (or get too old to care)

Electronic music is directly linked to drugs, it's a fact it's about opening a door in your mind. Before trying my first E, a repetitive techno or psytrance tune was noise to my ears, now I feel it, it's only though experiencing that sensation on the dancefloor when the drugs are doing their work on your mind that you finally get what that music is all about.

 

[swedger77]

^mmmmm Deep

 

[Shambles]

^ya i guess so. Back in the day, commercial dance music was equally as shit as it is now.

Big difference now is there is a whole generation id kidz blinkered into thinking this is the way is needs to be.

Has that also not always been the case though? That the massed hordes tend to have pretty shite taste in music as a massed horde. Mainstream is mainstream and that's always gonne be where the... well... the main stream of people are gonna reside. There's plenty brilliant new music about which must surely mean there are plenty peeps listening to it. I suppose I don't really get the disillusioned and disenchanted thing so much cos I never was much in the main stream of anything so that kinda stuff mainly passes me by unnnoticed. I certainly remember endless arguments over whether such and such a track was "too mainstream" but always tended to be of the opinion that good is good and shite is shite and there always was and always will be plenty of both for anybody that wants it. Just have to dig a bit - but not half as hard to find good new stuff as it once was cos music is just everywhere now. Even as an auld(er) geezer who's always been a bit of a creature of habit I find good new stuff all the time. Can't just be me they're making it for - has to be a market out there somewhere.

 

[Shambles]

Electronic music is directly linked to drugs, it's a fact it's about opening a door in your mind. Before trying my first E, a repetitive techno or psytrance tune was noise to my ears, now I feel it, it's only though experiencing that sensation on the dancefloor when the drugs are doing their work on your mind that you finally get what that music is all about.

I disagree. I discovered elctronic music long before I ever took Ecstasy. Long before I took any drugs actually. Well, maybe not that long cos I wasn't that old when I started taking drugs, but I was buy Aphex Twin, 808 State, Orb, KLF records and the like before I'd taken any drug of any kind. Once I started taking drugs I did see and feel things I'd maybe not seen prior to that but basic appreciation of the music as music came first.

 

[One Thousand Words]

Has there ever been a time where we look back and think, "geeze, that music was shit, what were we thinking"?

Even the 90's is look upon in revere while at the time everyone complain we were in decline. It's the fashion of the time that everyone laughs at.

Well except a well tailored suit. That shit is timeless

 

[Mental Kenny]

I disagree. I discovered elctronic music long before I ever took Ecstasy. Long before I took any drugs actually. Well, maybe not that long cos I wasn't that old when I started taking drugs, but I was buy Aphex Twin, 808 State, Orb, KLF records and the like before I'd taken any drug of any kind. Once I started taking drugs I did see and feel things I'd maybe not seen prior to that but basic appreciation of the music as music came first.

I guess what I said is true for those who used to be into metal/rock/punk, then moved on to the elctronic music after their first E, that was the case for me anyway.

 

[swedger77]

^ nah im with Kenny on this. I know a lot of rockers that only ended up loving techno via MDMA. With no MDMA there was no chance these folk would of "gotten" the techno thing

 

[swedger77]

BOOM! just what i said Kenny

 

[One Thousand Words]

Yeah I was all long hair and guitars when I was forced my first pill and made to sip water all night. The trick is not to think that MDMA is only suited to edm. I have had magical experiences lying on the grass listening to Neil young and jack Johnson while coming up.

Drugs are just the stirring stick for your soul and music is simply one of the ingredients you throw in the pot.

 

[swedger77]

^ this is true, but I can listen to Neil young and jack johnson any time and "get"them.


I cannot do the same with some dirty bangin' techno. For that MDMA is the key to unlock the "getting" of it.

 

[Shambles]

I was also into gee-tar music and rock stuff. But yes, I know what you mean about some folk needing that first pill to get past the "it's just bleeps and noise" stuff. I have no doubt that plenty peeps would never have imagined they could enjoy electronic music until they combined it with MDMA. They do have a certain affinity

Yeah I was all long hair and guitars when I was forced my first pill and made to sip water all night. The trick is not to think that MDMA is only suited to edm. I have had magical experiences lying on the grass listening to Neil young and jack Johnson while coming up.

Drugs are just the stirring stick for your soul and music is simply one of the ingredients you throw in the pot.

Agree with that too. Although drugs and electronic stuff definitely has a special bond, music in general sounds good on MDMA. With, perhaps, a few notable exceptions. Breakcore on MDMA? Yup. Grindcore on MDMA? No thankyou.

 

[One Thousand Words]

Is grindcore even music though?

MDMA works with any thing with a beat. Imagine the tunes Beethoven or Bach would have produced one Sunday after glow?