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EADD: New (and less new) RCs - steric hindrance and vestigial rituals

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Shambles said:
Answers abound 8o
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If I were you I wouldn't go lower than 20mgs, even for the first time, the first time I tried it I think I remember writing on my trip diary something like 24mgs and it was in the morning after an all-nighter on 4-FA, still felt it easy and mild.

You're very experienced, I find sub-doses of 4-HO-MET to be quite disappointing, the last time I did a low dose was in the summer as we had run out of stuff, so me and my two mates all did about 15mgs each, which is all we had, then went around walking, I felt bored and almost dysphoric, knowing that a few mgs more would make me a giggling mess, it just left me disappointed.

As always safety first, but for somebody with your level of experience, 20 to 25 should be the sweet spot.
 
That's often the case with psyches, I find. Need to get past a certain basic level otherwise you just end up in that freaky semi-tripping place where everything seems weird and uncomfortable cos you're neither one thing nor t'other. And 'giggling mess' sounds good to me =D

StoneHappyMonday said:
That answers that one then. ;)
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=D

One of the old PD mods I was friendly with got hold of LSD xtal one time. He nommed 5mg as his initial dose. Was quite the TR up in the staff forum 8o
 
babylonboy said:
Metocin is glorious, Shammy. Less fast-paced and mindfucky than shrooms, but deep, and the visuals are more colorful and DMT-esque.
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Mental Kenny said:
As I've said a million times before on here already, 4-HO-MET is probably one of the finest psychedelics out there, incredible, absolutely amazing stuff, my vocabulary isn't anywhere big enough to describe how brilliant a substance it is.
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Well, that's my interest well and truly piqued. Sounds rather lovely.. is this a legal one or not?
 
Sadly not, Ms Dragon. Class A along with virtually everything else from PiHKAL and TiHKAL (this being from the latter, obviously). Dunno what the Government's axe to grind is with our beloved St Shulgin. He's probably brought more joy to the world than any other single human being over the last century or so. Or quite possibly ever.
 
Shambles said:
Sadly not, Ms Dragon. Class A along with virtually everything else from PiHKAL and TiHKAL (this being from the latter, obviously). Dunno what the Government's axe to grind is with our beloved St Shulgin. He's probably brought more joy to the world than any other single human being over the last century or so. Or quite possibly ever.
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Ah, cheers! And agreed - I must remember to chuck him another donation at some point soon. Is a worthwhile cause.
 
4-HO-MET's beautiful stuff. Easy going yet still with the potential to be 'deep'.

As a former PD mod I can't believe you haven't already had the pleasure of sampling it yet Shambles!
 
I've always been a bit slack on the tryptamine side, Dharma. Dunno why really. No particular reason - just seemed to find phens easier for much of the time and always felt confident with 'em. Probably summat to do with being a bit of an old speed freak. Plenty time to catch up now =D

And they don't actually give out samples of the entire PD Index to anybody who gets the Swirlstick... unfortunately. I was kinda headhunted for the PD job so can only assume it was thought I had enough experience in general and/or just had the right attitude. I agree there are vast gaps in my knowledge and experience compared to most PD mods though.
 
I just remember it seeming as if you'd tried every psychedelic worth trying when I first started lurking over there!

I'm actually quite similar when it comes to experience/enjoyment of phens/tryps but love 4-HO-MET - you're in for a treat :D
 
Oh I've had plenty but when it comes to trypts there are big gaps in my experience for whatever reason. And yes, I'm rather looking forward to the 4-HO-MET. I don't often feel the need to be going too deep these days - think I got most of that out my system years back. Not to say it's not nice to have a proper clear out now and then but I prefer something lighter for more day to day use. Well, maybe not day to day these days but you know what I mean. I've always been a big advocate of purely recreational psychedelia. Regular giggly messes have a lot going for them. Psyches don't have to be all navel-gazing and "work". All work and no play and all that, eh? :)
 
Dunno what happened to my last gramme of DMT. There's the tiniest bit left but am buggered if I remember smoking it all. Remember smoking some, yes, but definitely not a whole gramme. Got a horrible feeling I must've lost most of it whilst fuxxorated. Occupatioal hazard, I suppose 8)

Alternatively, I did smoke it all and forgot. Probably about 50/50 odds on which possibility it was.
 
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