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Quitting/Tapering Thread.

I've been trying to get clean for a while now -- and been doing a splendidly awful job of it, too.

Had my pipe stolen 5 days ago, and after an initial explosion of rage, I settled down and realised this was an opportunity to clean up.
Today is day 4 off the shard -- that's a good effort for me, don't laugh. Been sleeping and eating a lot during the day and smoking too many bongs, just keeping my mind occupied. Feel pretty good today, really.

To be honest it's day 5-7 that I'm scared of. I can just feel the urge rising in the background. Storm's a-brewin'... payday's a-comin'... friends a-gonna call. Argh.

I think I can I think I can I think I can I think I can I think...

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Also, good luck to everyone else who's trying to make the grade. Rumour goin' 'round is it's more than worth it.
 
@Spackeradder - I find meth addiction sorta feels like its in waves in my experience, i use to be a daily user aswell, now i try to quit every week, sometimes i can only go say 3-5 days sometimes i can go for weeks but this is merely cause i have a weak mind.

hope you do better than i am bud

Spackeradder said:
I've been trying to get clean for a while now -- and been doing a splendidly awful job of it, too.

Had my pipe stolen 5 days ago, and after an initial explosion of rage, I settled down and realised this was an opportunity to clean up.
Today is day 4 off the shard -- that's a good effort for me, don't laugh. Been sleeping and eating a lot during the day and smoking too many bongs, just keeping my mind occupied. Feel pretty good today, really.

To be honest it's day 5-7 that I'm scared of. I can just feel the urge rising in the background. Storm's a-brewin'... payday's a-comin'... friends a-gonna call. Argh.

I think I can I think I can I think I can I think I can I think...

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Also, good luck to everyone else who's trying to make the grade. Rumour goin' 'round is it's more than worth it.
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jzx100 said:
@Spackeradder - I find meth addiction sorta feels like its in waves in my experience, i use to be a daily user aswell, now i try to quit every week, sometimes i can only go say 3-5 days sometimes i can go for weeks but this is merely cause i have a weak mind.

hope you do better than i am bud
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Heh, trust me, your mind's gotta be stronger than mine. I'm only just new to this whole "willpower" thing.

Like you said about the waves -- you're right, and that's one of the things that really fucking worries me. Right now the waves are lightly sliding up and down the shore... but soon enough they're gonna come crashing and kicking, then I'll slip up, then I'll be off my head for a week, then ect ect ect cyclical bullshit. But I guess we'll see.

Thanks for your concern jzx -- still off 'er. Had much more energy today, didn't even have to take a nap.
 
chugs said:
pay day is the hardest day of all to hold back on though
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It's the hardest day to hold back on, most definitely. If you can manage to get through having money in your pocket and not scoring, you are doing very, very well.

To all those attempting to quit, keep it up. You made a decision, you know you can do it and there's always Bluelight if you need to vent.
 
Starting cold turkey again tomorrow morning...got everything i need. (i think) dreading It but looking forward to It at the same time. Got a few days off work too so hopefully that Will help :-) wish me Luck xxx
 
30 hours without codeine. Feeling ok. Slept all night. I cant understand as withdrawals normally set in way before 30 hours. Maybe its Just going to Take a little longer this time. I have no symptoms other than a little restlessness but nothing real bad yet. Anyone know how long before withdrawals set in? J x
 
footscrazy said:
How long have you been off now, Christ?
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Been about two years I think. Could be three. I'm not very good with time and remembering things :P

Been getting stuck into the seeds pretty heavily lately. Going to start having some enforced breaks soon.
 
jadehick92 said:
30 hours without codeine. Feeling ok. Slept all night. I cant understand as withdrawals normally set in way before 30 hours. Maybe its Just going to Take a little longer this time. I have no symptoms other than a little restlessness but nothing real bad yet. Anyone know how long before withdrawals set in? J x
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Stop thinking about them and you'll be better off. Stop thinking about the drug (that's the hardest part) and you will hardly even notice the withdrawals.
 
Thought I would post this here. I'm in the process of another attempt to quit smoking cold turkey.

Had my last smoke on Sunday evening. My cravings are peaking right now, but the worst part is how much it is effecting my concentration. Even on dexies my thoughts are a mess. Needless to say I am not having a productive day. Amphetamines make me crave cigarettes like a madman so dexies aren't helping my cause a whole lot haha.

This might sound odd, but the fact that my last opiate detox was relatively recent might actually be helping me put the shittiness of nicotine W/D into perspective a little bit. I don't really buy into all this 'cigarettes are the most addictive substance ever' diatribe. I'll take quitting cigarettes over quitting opiates any day. Still sucks though.

Does anybody have a rough timeline of how long the acute phases of nicotine W/D last? Various sources on the internet paint a pretty broad range. I think I hve been smoking roughly 20 cigs a day for 6 years, with a couple of very brief gaps of not smoking thrown in there somewhere.
 
My experience with acute withdrawals of nicotine (after smoking a similar amount and length of time as you, CF) was that the worst of it is done in one week. It's after six or seven days that some benefits start becoming apparent, which can really spur you on. Better sense of taste and smell, overall better mood or at least more consistent mood, better lung capacity, etc.

What hangs around and remains very strong though is the craving for a smoke. Need a good three to four weeks for that, and even then I found that cravings could pop up months later at random times.

Definitely an advantage to have opiate WDs fresh in your mind to help remind yourself that it could be a whole lot worse. Knowing that you were able to do that, I'd say that if you really want off the smokes, then it'll happen.
 
recently something has happened that has made me say never ever forever no more. Now i've said I've had to quit but this event has really made it clear that one must be done with their dalliances when responsibilities require discharging.

Yet since making this decision I've ceased feeling the cravings. At least a massive reduction and the usual triggers have seemingly lost their potency.

I've stopped many addiction before (on a permanent basis with zero relapses) but this time with this particular vehicle of desire my need has seemingly crashed. Strange.
 
Not that I should probably be encouraging use of other drugs, I don't know if this has been mentioned or not but, Valium or Xanax does wonders to remove the cravings and also helps if you're feeling like a slapped ass during a comedown.



I'm sure i don't need to stress the addictive nature of benzos ( Xanax in particular) so please, please be safe.
 
Hey Cloudy,

Benzos for WDs or 'cravings' are all too common and while what you say is absolutely true, I have to say that from most unfortunate personal experience the short term relief provided by benzos is risky in the extreme. They provide a 'get out of jail free*' card for crashes and short-lived WDs, and can therefore promote a dangerous and very insidious idea that there's an easy way to get off stuff. Relapse, and you're likely to use benzos again to get off.

But what do you use if you're really stuck on benzos?**

(*actual charge: your soul)
(**not saying that everyone lacks self-control like I do, but it is surprisingly easy to go down the crapper with benzos)
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Hey Chugs,

Man, there's nothing like actual motivation to completely change the whole chemistry of the brain and make everything different. It's none of my damn business but the sudden gravity of your words sounds like someone who just found out they're having a baby... hahahah!!

In any case, I hope that that strong shift in circumstances helps you along. Sounds like a real Earth-shaker. Godspeed.
 
Halif said:
What hangs around and remains very strong though is the craving for a smoke. Need a good three to four weeks for that, and even then I found that cravings could pop up months later at random times.
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Exactly what i'm going through. I've just gone 4 months quitting smoking cold turkey (7th quit attempt) and i did it easy at first, but for me it gets harder the longer it's been.

I get some days where the cravings are really strong, But normally go away pretty quickly. It's like you forget all the bad things about smoking and the longer it goes, the better the thought of having a cigarette seems.

Good luck on your attempt catching fish.
 
It's like you forget all the bad things about smoking and the longer it goes, the better the thought of having a cigarette seems.
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So true, and can be said about anything me reckons.

In my case, that kind of rose-coloured perspective happens the most for stims. I am so not suited to stims and have no business taking them, and generally I don't anymore. But yes as time goes by sometimes I remember a smoke or a line of something and the craving flies up out of nowhere, and if I'm stupid enough to give in it takes all of two seconds to remember how rough the stim rollercoaster is.

As for ciggs, I find that the more time passes without smoking, the more off-putting the stench becomes and can be enough to make you not want to re-visit that world.
 
Halif, I couldn't agree more with what you just said. Benzos are indeed a get out jail free card but a risky get out of jail free card. As I said, Benzos are known to be highly addictive and can often cause more of a problem than they solve. Luckily for me I've never been addicted to them so I cant comment on what to do if one becomes hooked on them.


As I said before and can't say enough, be safe and be careful!
 
That they can, if there was nothing dangerous or harmful about them they wouldn't be such a heavily controlled substance. If you have them prescribed to you that's fine but if you don't, there is probably a good reason.
 
Cloud9ine said:
That they can, if there was nothing dangerous or harmful about them they wouldn't be such a heavily controlled substance. If you have them prescribed to you that's fine but if you don't, there is probably a good reason.
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You know that I mean they can easily get people in jail for the acts that one does on them, not for their illegality.

They also have the same superpower that alcohol has, the ability to render everything you have done whilst under the influence of them, completely wiped from your memory. Mixing the two and, well, just look at my post history to find out what that can do.

They are an essential medicine to many people, I am not demonizing their use. They can play a big part in doing things that would not otherwise be done (or said, or typed on an internet forum) if it wasn't for them, though. That's what I meant.
 
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