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I'm done with opiates... What about everything else?

80ampd

80ampd

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I'm five weeks clean from an everyday IV heroin addiction (which I'm absolutely stoked about=D) but I still do most of my other choice substances. I've increased my "Amp" usage (mostly adderal, occasionally meth) from roughly 6-8 times a month, to using 3-5 times a week, easy. And I'm back to smoking pot every day when I can. But, most surprising to Me, My cravings for psychadelics is through the roof. Before the opiate addiction took hold of me (about 8 years ago), I was really in to club drugs and psychadelics. At first I still would take whatever chemicals came my way, along side the opiate addiction, but my psychadelic use gradually gave way to the more life-consuming addiction. Now that I've successfully laid-down the needle=D, I can't stop thinking about ecstacy and lsd, and constantly reminiscing about my "Raver" days!... I am so proud of Myself for breaking-free of opiates, but I don't know if I can truly be free of My obsession with snorting/eating/smoking powerful substances!.... Do I even want to be? Is life that much better without them? I've always taken to "psychadelics" and "uppers" like a duck to water, I feel so natural on them! Like I'm in my element!.... Any advice/opinions on this situation? Thank's!
 
I went to rehab 3 years ago for H and percs. Psychs helped me tremendously as I learned from them and like to go high dose/infrequently.(once every few months) Stimulants seem to get abused daily by people just like opiates. That alone would be enough to steer clear. Psychs ftw. Do to your past I would steer clear of the daily user drugs. Maybe your crazy enough to want to take a 10 strip of lsd everyday though so YMMV. This is just what helped me when coming out of that world.
 
I wouldn't want to see you get into taking stimulants so frequently, 3-5 times a week could turn into every day before you know it. Just stick with enjoying psychedelics and smoking weed. Well done giving up heroin! <3
 
neversickanymore said:
Hey 80.. nice work on giving up the opiates and the needle!!! I would try and stay away from the meth. If you are going to use the meth I would use it orally.

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Thank's neversick... I absolutely agree about the meth. atm I only use meth on very rare occasions, but I have binged on it a few times before, and I can't deny that it has incredible tendency to get out of control very quickly! I mostly use adderal as far as stimulants, sometimes vyvance, and I do prefer to eat them. But they are still very addictive!... I used to love stimulants as an "every-now-n-then" treat, but after kicking the opes, I definitely see "amps" trying to take the place of the "opes".....
s'pretty scary, mang!...
 
T. Calderone said:
I wouldn't want to see you get into taking stimulants so frequently, 3-5 times a week could turn into every day before you know it. Just stick with enjoying psychedelics and smoking weed. Well done giving up heroin! <3
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Thank's for the advice T.
 
Like the guy above said stick to psychadelics man you've already enjoyed the euphoria days dont get back into drugs that alter your brain chemicals and production. Let your dopamine receptors and all that jazz recover and be as normal as possible, try to enjoy cannabis or lower side of kratom dosages. Kratoms not an opiate its similar but its not going to give you a rush which is what you want to avoid. Id hate to see a guy overcome H addiction like that and ruin that victory for just another addiction. Dont wanna repeat myself over again but basically I think solid advice for you is leave the stimulants alone because you will get into them and think about them, just stick to cannabis try to find ways to enjoy it cook it, vape it, try to use that if you must have a drug of choice. When I took a break from oxycodone it was hard because marijuana had nothing for me im all about the slow motion nodding dopamine rush type highs, but I learned to love weed!
 
Start and stop what??

And to Crisler; im sure the OP knows better but i certainly wouldnt suggest another opiate/opioid type drug (kratom) to someone who has just successfully given up heroin..not good HR.
 
Wow, well done OP. Excellent man. I know how hard it is to give up opiates, but Heroin and IV is just on a whole new level of addiction. Would of taken a hell of a lot of willpower man, but you have now done it and you are ahead of the game!

With other drugs, it depends on how you look at it. With my experience, I can use almost any drugs without becoming habitual bar opiates. When I had my "once a week high" plan, it was only directed towards opiates. Any other drug is fair game whenever I want, and I do not count that as a high lol. The reason; I can just pick up from where I left off the next day, but with opiates, if I do not have a "rule", all hell breaks lose and I find it hard to go sober the day after using an opiate, so I count that as my high and is relevant within my shitty ass rule.

So if you do not have a problem with other drugs and can use and STOP at will, then I see no problem if you are not going for the "stone cold sober" role in society. It seems that the stimulants you are using however, are in fact taking over your opiate habit and anything 5 times a week, I would count as a problem waiting to come alive. Watch out for that meth....it can get a stranglehold before you know it, and it will fry you in the process, where as at least with opiates IME, you can walk away less damaged if you had an addiction.
 
Predecessor said:
Heroin !! Every 6 months I go on a 3 day bender on opiates (.7g) and after those 3 days I don't touch them again until 6 months pass... I've been doing this for years ! :)
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This can be done but your mind has to be in the right place.......usually people that have financial problems, relationship problems, etc, etc will not be able to do this as they need a crutch to stand on or in other words, a substance to block their disparity.
 
Damn, nice job man. You are one tough mother-fucker.

That said be super careful with your Crystal Meth / MDMA usage. For me at least, the comedowns from those stimulants are one of the most powerful triggers for relapse of Opiates (especially because I love speedballs and am such a pussy regarding stim comedowns). Also watch out for benzos, they seem to be a go-to replacement for us Opiate-heads. Me at least.

As for the psychedelics: explore your mind! I recommend DMT. I don't see this class of drugs are recreational, to me mushrooms and DMT are more of a Sacrament. They have the potential to help set me back on the right path. Most be treated with respect of course.

And I've found Cannabis to be a great daily drug. No addiction potential (STFU I know some one out there want's to contradict that, you're wrong), so it helps when you just need to leave that sober state behind but don't want to get super fucked up or deal with comedowns/hangovers.
 
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sound advice.

I think sticking to weed/psychedelics is a good plan (depends on your definition though ketamine and mdma aree more risky for instance)
 
Predecessor said:
Heroin !! Every 6 months I go on a 3 day bender on opiates (.7g) and after those 3 days I don't touch them again until 6 months pass... I've been doing this for years ! :)
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wow that is really impressive, My friend.... That sounds so great, but something like that w/H is just not likely to work for me, no matter how sweet it sounds..
 
Predecessor said:
Heroin !! Every 6 months I go on a 3 day bender on opiates (.7g) and after those 3 days I don't touch them again until 6 months pass... I've been doing this for years ! :)
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You sir, are an anomaly. Well done.. and I must say, I am jealous of your capabilities. For many of us it started like that then it became an everyday thang.. so to see someone doing the damn thing.. well, thats just something that you hardly ever see!
 
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