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Amt+codiene

AMT is tremendous. One of the best. If you like MDMA, and you like psychedelics... well. You're in for a treat.

This. For me, aMT is not entirely dissimilar from MDMA with a light dose of LSD on top of it only it lasts longer. It's not very psychedelic at the lower end of the dosage scale for most people - tends to be more foccussed on euphoria and empathy. At higher doses it can become quite intensely psychedelic - as much as any straight-up psyche is. One of the bonuses of aMT is that it is so intensely euphoric which can be especially useful for people who maybe haven't tripped for a while and have a few nerves about it, or maybe people who are nervous after a previous "bad trip" experience on one of the less-forgiving psyches, or indeed people who just like intensely euphoric, loved-up swirls. I drew hearts and flowers and (no doubt rather trite if well-intentioned) messages of peace, love and understanding up and down the pavement in pastels the first time I tripped on aMT =D<3
 
For me, it is not only really trippy in the same way as other psyches, but also has that kind of deliriant edge that high doses of MDMA can have- I remember once being profoundly confused by my lightshade, I could see it, but I had no idea what it was, and I'd realise that I did understand it, but then lose my grip, and gaze, bemused, at this bizzare object, that occasionally actually became a sentient other... shit was crazy. Fantabulous drug.
 
I recall dropping AMT one afternoon before my girlfriend came around, followed a couple of hours later by a mutual friend.

When said friend arrived, he really couldn't tell that my girlfriend wasn't on drugs, as we were not only (as he put it) quite visibly 'glowing', but finishing each other's sentences but seemingly anticipating each other's thoughts.

Said girlfriend was a right miserable cow too.

I've never felt anything quite like that with any other drug.
 
aMT a great chemical , dunno about mixing it with codeine bleurghhhhh, maybe on the comedown ayeeee
 
I'm still yet to try a propper dose of amt. tired it a couple times at 5mg and 10mg and it gave me a nice mood lift and appreciation for.. well.. lots of things! its the length of the trip that puts me off, i simply don't have as much free time on my hands these days. soon though! :)
 
^I hare a 3-point analytical balance, a Gempro, cost me about £120.No not beyond anyone's reach, and even for using 2Cs and the like, you need one.
 
^I hare a 3-point analytical balance, a Gempro, cost me about £120.No not beyond anyone's reach, and even for using 2Cs and the like, you need one.

3-point? Ya mean 3 decimal points? 3 decimal points of what unit - Kg, g, mg? If you're telling me you have scales that can accurately weigh microgrammes (0.000001g) for £120 then I'm genuinely surprised and stand corrected. However, the main point I was making was that Shammy surely meant 0.001g (milligrammes), not 0.001mg (microgrammes).
 
^Yes, my mistake. mcg scales are not within the reach of the lone-wolf kitchen chemist. Sorry. I think shammy meant scales that can weigh to 0.001 g, though, I think most self-respecting drug users could be forgiven for not having mcg balances!
 
^Yes, my mistake. mcg scales are not within the reach of the lone-wolf kitchen chemist. Sorry. I think shammy meant scales that can weigh to 0.001 g, though, I think most self-respecting drug users could be forgiven for not having mcg balances!

I did yes. Apologies for any confusion. It's no wonder I ended up getting the wrong ones last time :!

Phew! I was beginning to think I'd got me points wrapped round me arse! =D
 
babylonboy how much AMT do you usually dose? ive tried it once at 30mg, long comeup no stomach issues or owt, the effects felt kinda indecisive and all over the place, speedy wavey but i dunno, kinda messed me around, gonna try it again at 50mg
 
50mg is where i started (stupidly) and it reallt dida number on me

it has real heavy bodyload which feels amazing but is also incapacatatiing your also almost guranteed to throw up.

a 50mg amt trip is the most stimulated i've ever felt i think, and it doesn't let down


*an aside to the thread starter*

oif your talking a dose of aMT higher then 35mg then you are gonna be wired of that exckusively, its a strong stimulant, i doubt codeine would even get close to it
 
Often, with trips, undercautious dosing gives you all the negatives, but none of the magic. 30 is too low- 50 is enough, but AMT is one of the only drugs I plug. As long as you have good AMT, 50 and up is where the money is.
 
^I cannot agree more with that. AMT needs to be plugged imo, completely different substance.

Mind you, I haven't gone less than 50mg rectal/60mg oral so maybe there's other avenues to explore without spending 14+ hours on my arse
 
Often, with trips, undercautious dosing gives you all the negatives, but none of the magic. 30 is too low- 50 is enough, but AMT is one of the only drugs I plug. As long as you have good AMT, 50 and up is where the money is.

Yeah its a decent batch i think, back from 2012
 
Guys what does amt smell like? i have been reading around and heard its supposed to stink....mine doesn't smell much of anything...getting a bit worried
 
Agreed that underdosing can lead to a somewhat uncomfortable and indecisive trip. That applies to most psyches, I'd say, but as aMT tends to have quite a strong physical element (the stimulation in particular can be pretty intense, but there's also the GI issues for those unfortunate enough to get those to any significant extent) underdosing tends to leave you in the worst of all worlds: all the physical effects, fewer of the mental and emotional effects that put it all in context. It just feels a bit weird and confused much as you describe, Dan.

It's very much in the YMMV territory when it comes to dosage too. Some people will get full effects at 30mg (or even less than that) whist others will want twice that amount - or, in some cases - significantly more than that (triple digit doses are not unheard of but obviously are not the place to start for anybody). As long as you're not combining it with any other drugs at all, aMT itself seems to be well-tolerated at a wide range of doses. The stimulation tends to level off as the dose rises - past a certain point you will be very stimulated but probably not vastly more so than at a lower dose. It's more the psychedelia side that intensifies as the dose rises. Somewhere between underdosed frustration and high-dose intense psychedelia lies a happy medium where you get the full, MDMA-esque euphora, empathy and energy (a bit (or even a lot) speedier-feeling than MDMA itself generally speaking) with a smattering of psychedelia which usually becomes more noticeable around half-way through the total duration.

It's also worth mentioning that there has been some fairly significant variation in potency between batches. I'd not like to hazard a guess as to why but I have heard that it doesn't store so well unless under optimum conditions which may have something to do with differences in potency or it may not. Either way, I'd say it's best to find which dose works for you afresh with each new batch and don't rely too much on the doses others report as they may have a significantly stronger, or indeed weaker, batch than you do. If 30mg was underwhelming, and this is from the same stuff you used before, I'd maybe go to 40mg next time and see how you go. 50mg is unlikely to be a problem but is obviously quite a big jump up from 30mg. As psyches go, aMT is one of the "easier" ones as it tends to come with built-in, near-guaranteed euphoria and positivity, as such it's a good choice for people who like the idea of tripping but are maybe a bit wary for one reason or another. Dosing a bit high is perhaps not such a risk of a "bad trip" but it is certainly a full-on psychedelic at said higher doses. If not so sure about whether the psychedelic side is what you want the emphasis on then I'd suggest not jumping up in dose too much as it's nearer to an MDMA-esque, entactogen-type experience at sub-psychedelic doses.
 
I think the freebase is more fecal-stinky than the salt. I had some all-but-odourless stuff that was, believe me, the real deal. As always, start small and work up.
 
Guys what does amt smell like? i have been reading around and heard its supposed to stink....mine doesn't smell much of anything...getting a bit worried

It is often said to smell not dissimilar to rancid tramp's anus - mmm.... scatole <3

Not all batches are quite so full-on in odour - in fact the last couple I've had have been barely noticeable, certainly not strongly stinking like I've had in the past, and have worked just fine. I wouldn't snort it or take it orally without putting it in a rizla or gel cap or summat though ;)

If heated you should get a proper whiff of it's (in)famous whiffiness.
 
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