variance in blotter dosage on 25-i-nbome

[pupnik]

I have been 'titrating' (incrementing dosage) to find my sweetspot with a shipment (actually 3 successive shipments from one vendor that I have stored together in one ziplock) of 25-i-nbome over a period 1 month.

the blotters are rated at ~1000 mics.

I started with
1/8 - too mild
1/4 - interesting
1/2 - sweetspot

and I was testing tolerance and finding that skipping 2 days returned me to a functional baseline with no tolerance.

then I ran into some anomalies...
bear in mind that over a month at 1/4 and 1/2 we are not consuming that many blotters, but we found that

1/4 can be stronger than 1/2 after 2 days off

and this means that the material is not laid uniformly on the paper and I do recall some half's having not so much strong tasting stuff on it.

so,
yesterday I wanted a mild trip and took 1/4 but got into the strongest effects yet.
the quarter did have a very strong taste for the size of paper.

anyway,
I mention this so that people who try the substance and disdain it as weak should be aware that they may be getting poorly (unevenly) doped paper, and people who think it is way too strong may be getting over doped paper.

but more to the point there can be a safety issue, since way too much might not be on one blotter (you will know within an hour for sure) but it may easily be on two blotters. so try to be careful with this one, I think it has value, but can bite.

 

[Mr. Mayor]

Went threw a 30strip this way a few months back.

I can agree this stuff is getting laid wrong and sending kids into panic. The amount of people that have been using this at festivals as compared to the good old lucy is ridiculous.

25i is like lucy's inbred cousin and the people dosing it need to be weary

 

[pupnik]

wary

 

[sekio]

It takes more than 2 days for tolerance to return to baseline, set and setting play a large role, and without extracting a bunch of blotters individually and weighing the residue you're just speculating...

It wouldn't suprise me if there was a lot of variance though. Doesn't take a lot of skill to make blotters badly.

 

[pupnik]

yes - I am speculating while observing.
1. return to baseline is dependent on dosage apparently: the more you use the longer it takes to restore your responsiveness to the drug.
2. since I was using less than the full blotter in each case, my approach to the problem reveals:
___ a. some bits of paper have more strong tasting material than other similarly sized bits of paper.
___ b. those bits of paper with more taste have a stronger effect.
___ c. some quarter blotters have more taste than some half blotters.

at another forum, it has been recommended that I remove the nbome from blotters I have and make my own blotters.
I think I just might do that. I will be estimating the total based on the average claim of 1 mg each and will proceed from there (carefully).
if the dosage-effects curve were not so finicky I would make a nose spray.

 

[Solipsis]

I'm sure we are grateful for the observation as a warning to others that even careful titration does not guarantee uniform responses (which is strictly speaking an unattainable ideal with psychedelic drugs).

Unfortunately we don't really deal in much speculation especially if there is an intention to apply it, so that begs the question: where do we depart from here?

 

[pupnik]

I think you mean, speculation is not the desired intent,
however without a certified label on each blotter,
we are all speculating that a vendor's claim is "accurate" (i.e. that each would have the equal potency of 1000 mics),
and if anyone cuts a blotter in half as I do, then they are speculating that each half will have a similar potency.
(that is what makes blotters so clever in my mind)

Even in my radical plan to recover some benefit from my nbome blotters by re-extracting them and then pipetting the extraction in a known fashion, I am speculating that even with some variance between them, the average dose per blotter was probably 1000 mics as claimed by the vendor.

 

[SWIM Had A Dream]

Even in my radical plan to recover some benefit from my nbome blotters by re-extracting them and then pipetting the extraction in a known fashion, I am speculating that even with some variance between them, the average dose per blotter was probably 1000 mics as claimed by the vendor.

Are you really considering this? I think you would stand to lose a lot of material and are better off leaving it on the paper

 

[pupnik]

ok I'll leave it
it just goes into my russian roulette pocket

 

[zn13bt]

1mg is way too strong for a single hit of 25I blotter in my opinion, given that lots of kids like to be macho and take two or three for their first time.