FordRiverFailed
Bluelighter
1. I'm on day 5 of no Opiates of any kind. Honestly, I feel fine. I acquired some Gabapentin (100% legally) and feel totally normal.
There is only one side effect, it works so well that I look a bit drunk even if I take it at night. The next day I'm still stumbling.
My question: I tapered down to almost nothing, skipping days and taking .1 mg of sub when I stopped. Have I stopped physically withdrawaling for the most part?
How long should I expect the physical to last?
My second question: I only take 1 capsule, 400mg, should I cut that in half?
You don't have to read this, it's just the background from the other thread I requested to be closed.
I think this might be a double post, I'd rather keep the one with the title end of physical withdrawal, beginning of Paws etc.
Mods feel free to clean up.
Update: Someone asked about my taper schedule, so here it is
Hey, no problem. I love harm reduction and helping people with this kind of thing. I'm actually trying to go to pharmacy school, but I am no doctor so do not assume what I'm about to tell you is safe. I did it, but everyone is different. I am not a doctor but I did get clean (six days so far) this way with little pain. I am on day six right now and I've been running around all day having fun like nothing was wrong, tonight got worse though it comes in waves.
I was doing around 80mg Opana (Oxymorphone) a day. That's a lot. But still, 2 to 3 mg of sub stopped my withdrawals. Anymore and I think it's just a waste of time. Either you're trying to quit or your maintaining. There's a difference. That amount will allow you to feel normal, but not high. You have to decide, do you want to just stop withdrawing, or do you want to quit? Because at some point, you have to pay back all the fun you had.
The taper:
That's my taper. I was taking crumbs of sub pills (not even enough to measure) and skipping days and that made it much easier at the end. You could add a few more days if you need to depending on how much you do, but that's the path. Two days of the same amount, so you have a rest day, then cut it in half. Once you get down to .5 or .25 start skipping days. This helps you get some of the WDS out of the way. At least that's how I felt about it.
Gabapentin - It's is a godsend for me. No cravings, mild WDS, getting sleep.
Also, short workouts. Low weight high reps. You'll hate it at first but after that take a hot shower and stretch, you'll feel like a million bucks.
There is only one side effect, it works so well that I look a bit drunk even if I take it at night. The next day I'm still stumbling.
My question: I tapered down to almost nothing, skipping days and taking .1 mg of sub when I stopped. Have I stopped physically withdrawaling for the most part?
How long should I expect the physical to last?
My second question: I only take 1 capsule, 400mg, should I cut that in half?
You don't have to read this, it's just the background from the other thread I requested to be closed.
I think this might be a double post, I'd rather keep the one with the title end of physical withdrawal, beginning of Paws etc.
Mods feel free to clean up.
Update: Someone asked about my taper schedule, so here it is
Hey, no problem. I love harm reduction and helping people with this kind of thing. I'm actually trying to go to pharmacy school, but I am no doctor so do not assume what I'm about to tell you is safe. I did it, but everyone is different. I am not a doctor but I did get clean (six days so far) this way with little pain. I am on day six right now and I've been running around all day having fun like nothing was wrong, tonight got worse though it comes in waves.
I was doing around 80mg Opana (Oxymorphone) a day. That's a lot. But still, 2 to 3 mg of sub stopped my withdrawals. Anymore and I think it's just a waste of time. Either you're trying to quit or your maintaining. There's a difference. That amount will allow you to feel normal, but not high. You have to decide, do you want to just stop withdrawing, or do you want to quit? Because at some point, you have to pay back all the fun you had.
The taper:
- Day 1: 2 to 3 mg of sub (or a bit more if you are really uncomfortable)
- Day 2: Same, just stabilize and have a good day.
- Day 3: 1 to 1.5 mg sub
- Day 4: Same as day 3. Stabilize.
- Day 4 and 5: .5 mg sub
- Day 6: Nothing, benzos if you have them.
- Day 7: .5 mg sub
- Day 8: Nothing, benzos if you got em
- Day 9: .25 mg sub
- Day 10: No more opiates period. Loperamide and Gabapentin if you can find it. Benzos work too but just be careful with them. It's easy to trade addictions.
That's my taper. I was taking crumbs of sub pills (not even enough to measure) and skipping days and that made it much easier at the end. You could add a few more days if you need to depending on how much you do, but that's the path. Two days of the same amount, so you have a rest day, then cut it in half. Once you get down to .5 or .25 start skipping days. This helps you get some of the WDS out of the way. At least that's how I felt about it.
Gabapentin - It's is a godsend for me. No cravings, mild WDS, getting sleep.
Also, short workouts. Low weight high reps. You'll hate it at first but after that take a hot shower and stretch, you'll feel like a million bucks.
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I see a little bit of rationalizing and passing of the buck here. For some reason we addicts can find no blame ever in ourselves and can rationalize doing just about anything. Just something to look at as it seems you still haven't owned up toi the relapse and are makeing excuses and blaming others. Not jumping on you just pointing out that this may be one thing you will wont to look at as something to address. Its important for us to become honest with ourselves and others. Other wise we will eventually create our own little reality and use this reality to justify use again. 
