Delsym Extraction Questions

[shpongle1987]

Yesterday I did a cold water extraction of delsym...actually it was a generic type brand forgot the name but it was the same thing that is in delsym. Put 3 3oz bottles of the syrup in a coke bottle and filled it 3/4s the way, shook it and waited for the dxm to sink to the bottom. After a few hours we took it out and got the gunk out of the bottom...put it on a plate and put it in the oven for a little bit of time, didnt burn it but made it kind of like a solid paste. Then let it sit over night. The next day me and another dude split it which if we did the math rite it was around 1600mg of dxm poly. and the effects were minimal at best. Has any one else had the same problem? And if any one has a pic of extracted dmx poly from the same method could you post it so i can compare. Thanks for the help!

 

[Solipsis]

This is our DXM extraction thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=257562

Maybe you can find the questions to what you are looking for there?

I am surprised your suggested method does not involved any acid-base extraction or other ways to really separate the DXM based on its physical properties. I guess part of the DXM dissolved in the water during those hours and you threw it away...

 

[shpongle1987]

When extracting dxm poly. the extraction only calls for cold water...the extended release mechanism make the dxm poly heavier than regular dxm hbr so you dont need to use the acid based method because it just sinks to the bottom due to the weight. I dont think its a matter of dxm dissolving in the water and not getting enough out because the extraction yielded a nice pile of Chrystaly dxm poly. Can the dxm lose potency through the extraction process?

 

[wayab]

also a lot of people find poly to be much weaker than hbr but with longer lasting

 

[Mr. Mayor]

This is our DXM extraction thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=257562

Maybe you can find the questions to what you are looking for there?

I am surprised your suggested method does not involved any acid-base extraction or other ways to really separate the DXM based on its physical properties. I guess part of the DXM dissolved in the water during those hours and you threw it away...

That link and guide do work as I've done it many a time.

 

[exists]

Hey shpongle '87,

Here's how I perform the Delsym CWE:

1. Dump 1 5oz bottle Delsym (contains a total of 888mg) into 1 gallon of cold water (I use a clean plastic milk jug w/ its top cut off), stir well
2. Let mixture sit covered overnight (8+ hours)
3. Carefully siphon water off the top using a clear plastic tube & remove as much of the remaining water off the top with a spoon, without disturbing the powder
4. Let the powder air-dry (can be sped up somewhat by placing container over a CFL lamp)

When drying, I never let the powder get hot, which is why I don't use anything more powerful than a CFL. If you want to speed up the drying process, I would suggest looking up the boiling point of DXM first, so you know how hot not to get the powder. I suspect this is mainly where your method went wrong, along with possibly not not using enough water for such a high volume of material.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

DXM hbr melts at 111 degrees although I'm unsure about dxm polistirex as the polistirex coating would undoubtedly change the melting point
As well it would not be the weight/density but instead its insolubility in water would would allow for it's separation as dxm hbr is readily soluble in water.
I would say exists method is definitely the easiest, a turkey baster would work fantastic for removing the water although I believe that is what he meant haha

 

[exists]

DXM hbr melts at 111 degrees although I'm unsure about dxm polistirex as the polistirex coating would undoubtedly change the melting point

I was going to mention that (comparing it to flux on solder), but was unsure how big a difference it would actually make.

As well it would not be the weight/density but instead its insolubility in water would would allow for it's separation as dxm hbr is readily soluble in water.

Do you think DXM's water solubility might result in substantial loss with CWEs, if not all the material is properly coated with polistirex?

I would say exists method is definitely the easiest, a turkey baster would work fantastic for removing the water although I believe that is what he meant haha

No, I wouldn't use a turkey baster. For one, it would be a slow way to remove 1 gallon of water. For another, when removing the remaining puddle a turkey baster might suck up too much of the powder. In fact, the reason why I don't siphon off the last bit is because the powder likes going down the tube. A spoon might not get every last drop, but enduring a longer drying time is much better than losing precious material

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Actually after further research dxm hbr is not that soluble in water haha my bad. I found experimental data indicated approx. 75mg/L.
Using a gallon of water that equates to approximately 300mg lost however.