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IM'o'hauasca

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I would really like to try IM'o'hauasca, hoping for something like a psychedelic ketamine dissociation...but I haven't found the balls. In my experience, IM is the key to effortless ego dissolution with the classic dissociatives. IDK why I am so apprehensious about trying this ROA with dmt...maybe I'm uncomfortable injecting something I have to do chemistry on before it is in proper form. I read the injecting dmt thread but am still questioning my wisdom....anybody get down like this??
 
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Yes, I've IM'd DMT on a few ocassions from dose ranges of 30-250mgs. Fairly varying in intensity to a light hearted infinitely fun experiences up to thinking I could possibly die, though that was mainly tripped out thinking on my part. So are you planning on consuming an
MAOI beforehand? Also are you planning to use extracted material? If so not that great of an idea as you do not want plant fats/etc. injected into your muscles.
 
Yes, I've IM'd DMT on a few ocassions from dose ranges of 30-250mgs. Fairly varying in intensity to a light hearted infinitely fun experiences up to thinking I could possibly die, though that was mainly tripped out thinking on my part. So are you planning on consuming an
MAOI beforehand? Also are you planning to use extracted material? If so not that great of an idea as you do not want plant fats/etc. injected into your muscles.

Never added the MAOI to the picture, but IMed DMT is actually fairly gentle (compared to smoking it). I've gone as high as 250mg and even at that level the effect is never overwhelming...or wasn't to me anyway.
 
I would probably convert the dmt to a citrate, then neutralize ph with sodium bicarbonate ....oral harmala extract beforehand...gear is a 50/50 of n,n-dmt and dmt oxide base...unknown extraction tek.
 
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I would probably convert to citrate....oral harmala extract beforehand...gear is a 50/50 of n,n-dmt and dmt oxide base...unknown extraction tek.

I'd HIGHLY recommend you look into the 'FASA' method and make DMT fumarate. Following that tek will ensure you have clean, dry, white DMT fumarate to inject. My experience says otherwise residual plant oils and wax will be present and (assuming you are using a wheel filter to clean your solution) will clog things up.
 
Sodium bicarbonate in water dissociates to provide sodium (Na+) and bicarbonate (HC03-) ions. Sodium is the principal cation of the extracellular fluid. Bicarbonate is a normal constituent of body fluids...is the correct ph neutralizing agent? Then again I've seen #3 heroin users iv straight lemon Juice and be completely fine..

The faasa method seems pretty straight forward, is the reaction scalable to 1/10th?...the thing is, I don't want to get into acetone and sourcing fumaric acid...I'm not an experienced chemist...I read a lot, But my lab experience is minimal...I'm comfortable dissolving things in lemon juice and adjusting the ph but I realize that there is enough that I don't know to get me into trouble...this is why bluelight us such a useful resource to me
 
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IV is different from IM in that the blood circulates and allows access to biochemicals breaking down foreign material. In the muscle it seems easier for something, especially insolubles, to get stuck for a while and turn to crap probably worst of all bacteria or fungi. That will give you an abscess. On the other hand, when shit does hit the fan with IV'ing you got sepsis on your hands which is obviously less contained than an abscess. All in all extremely nasty stuff you will want to avoid entirely.

Don't skimp out on the extraction, separation and filtering steps and the materials required. Yes wheel filters are not cheap and really cleaning your product up will take a bit of work, but I'd say it is a must if you are stubborn enough to inject extract to begin with.

Carbonate, bicarbonate, CO2 blood gas, sodium yeah all of those are endogenous to the human body - the carbonate is part of the pH buffering system actually. This helps stabilizing the pH.
{ I had a panic attack once from a drug cocktail, so bad that the hyperventilation caused metabolic acidosis: too much air means too much CO2 which makes the blood acidic. }

I used citric acid to dissolve my 5-MeO-DMT and DMT freebases. Just calculated stoichiometrically how much too add, only a very slight excess of acid was needed or none at all I am not sure IIRC.
Pure citric acid of course, no lemons. And the tryptamines are both synthetic, big difference. The last time I injected 5-MeO-DMT there was no burn or sensation at all but the first time maybe there might have been. Reasonable deviation from neutral pH shouldn't be a problem for the body, especially because of the pH buffer and because it is absorbed from the muscle over the course of a couple of minutes. By this I mean that I don't think it is necessary for me to use a digital pH meter to check for safety.
{ I don't think blood has pH 7.0 - oh apparently it is pH 7.35-7.45 ... }

By the way I did use a wheel filter, not for particulate matter but to maintain sterility.

Sorry for tangent reveries.
 
Thanks MGS, Soli, and everybody! I just hate the harshness of vape...oral is cool, but my fiancé takes an snri and antipsychotic for her bipolar...so MAOIs aren't an option for her. Because of her medications there are only a very few PDs she can enjoy...IM ketamine works great for her...so does vape dmt, but she hates the harshmess. I suspect (although deeper research is required) that many of the tryptamine family will be compatible with her situation. Maybe 4 ho mipt would be a logical progression...orally active, manageable nausea etc etc

People will undoubtably say that folks with bipolar have no business doing PDs...however, we feel that our experiences of psychedelic use has been a positive , therapeutic, and spiritual tool that helps us appreciate the human experience. Obviously people with mental health disorders are more prone to psychoses yada yada...but in our experiences, PDs have contributed incalculable happiness, and peace of mind in our day to day sober lives
 
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