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Ketamine... kidney and bladder issues

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I have been pretty much a daily user of ketamine for around a year, and particularly heavy in the last few months or so. A few weeks ago I noticed that I started needing to pee all the time, and when I would go there wouldn't be much... a bit like cystitis, but less painful. I am also getting up a lot during the night to pee which never used to happen. Furthermore, I noticed blood in my urine and a pain in my lower back. So... stopped taking K about 5 days ago, and went to the doctor. He tested my urine and found blood and protein in it, and so took a blood test as well, the results of which I get back tomorrow. He said I would have to go see some kidney person or urologist next week as well.

I always took drugs thinking I was invincible, and that the whole K bladder and kidney thing would never happen to me, but this has freaked me out a bit. To be honest, it's a good kick up the arse to cut out the K. I do miss it a lot, but I want to find out the seriousness of what's going on before I ever touch it again!

Can anyone here share a similar experience? I am worrying about the outcome of tomorrow!
 
this happened to me within 4 months of heavy daily usage, but the urinay problems have went away.. except for the occasional burning when urinating, not sure if thats what it is attributed too

i also lost weight at the time, but what seems to persist is the thought disorders and memory problems.. something Alexander Shulgin warned about in an interview with thegooddrugsguide.com

https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw="interview+shulgins"

and from reading from peoples experiences on bluelight the memory problems get worse
 
Ketamine is a fairly strong acid, I would expect norketamine would be fairly harsh too. If you had several grams of citric acid equivalent in your bladder for a while then you'd be pissing blood almost certainly. Just keep your usage moderate and avoid overconsumption of acidic foods.
 
Yo someone help me out here, most people sniff K don't they right?

How the F does that get into your bladder? :s I Don't need a huge explanation cause i'll prrobably not understand it :( but i'm interested how it goes from nose>blood>brain>bladder!
 
it is excreted through the urinary system almost unchanged, so pee in a tray and throw it in the oven
 
sjloway...were you pissing blood as well? and did a doctor do anything? interesting about it being excreted through the urinary system unchanged!

A few people have said to me that after you snort it, you should spit out the 'drip', as it's worse for your body if you swallow the drip. But I never paid attention to this and in fact relished the drip as it gets you more fucked, I believe? Surely spitting it out makes no difference?

thanks sekio for the advice :)
 
Newbierock said:
Yo someone help me out here, most people sniff K don't they right?

How the F does that get into your bladder?
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Ketamine hits your nose, dissolves into the mucus/moisture, is adsorbed through the blood vessels in your nasal mucosa, and ends up in your bloodstream. As your blood circulates through your brain, ketamine tickles your receptors. As the blood passes the liver, ketamine is metabolized into non-active stuff that circulates in your blood as well. By the time blood's at your kidneys, they do their job of filtering the stuff your body needs out of your urine - leaving is excess water, salts, ketamine, and metabolites sitting in your bladder eating at the walls.

Swallowing the drip can irritate some people's stomachs and just tastes nasty. It has no real effects unless you're snorting huge amounts of ketamine resulting in half a gram dripping down your throat, and if you're at that point you need to think about cutting back anyway.

Drinking plenty of fluids is probably the best defence against bladder damage. It'd be interesting to hear where geographically people have sourced their hetamine from, as I've heard mutterings that it's far more of a problem with ketamine from overseas labs.
 
sekio said:
Swallowing the drip can irritate some people's stomachs and just tastes nasty. It has no real effects unless you're snorting huge amounts of ketamine resulting in half a gram dripping down your throat, and if you're at that point you need to think about cutting back anyway.

Drinking plenty of fluids is probably the best defence against bladder damage. It'd be interesting to hear where geographically people have sourced their hetamine from, as I've heard mutterings that it's far more of a problem with ketamine from overseas labs.
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Hmm, yeah, I was taking massive lines on a daily basis, so that's why I always swallowed the drip.

You are right about drinking fluids. Am trying to drink loads of water, and avoid tea, fruit juice, etc.

As for location, I am in Scotland, but I know most of the stuff comes from the south of England. Don't know anything else.
 
Phoned the GP surgery for my blood results today, and the receptionist said they came back normal. I will still have to go back to see the doctor though.

What am I supposed to do?? Just wait and hope it goes away!?
 
Yep. There's no cure other than anti-inflammatories, but those are a temporary fix.. the scar tissue formed is permanent. Antibiotics won't do shit. Just lay off the ketamine and avoid hardcore bladder acidifiers (lots of cranberry juice lol). Your bladder will slowly recover but it might take a while.

Try to relax too, drinking tea might actually help more than hinder :)
 
Well at least you have stopped the K use. Knew of a guy that didn't stop kept hitting it as it eased the pain till shit was so bad he had his bladder operated on and majority of it removed. Basically has a plastic bag that collects the piss with tubes n shit. Lovely.

Still occasional K use does not seem to cause this problem, my bladder is still fine. As a rule though I drink 1.5 liters of water daily (about 6-8 large glasses) seems to help with all kinds of drug use.
 
Every time i been on multiple grams of K per day for weeks i have felt bladder issues afterwards. Not major, but still very noticable. Urgent need to pee and not much coming out. Then i have a break for months and heal. But now in the middle of my last 3-week session i got the cramps as well. 1 litre of baking soda water and it was GONE. in 20 minutes. And i havent felt the slightest bladder issues. And i never been taking as much as ketamine in my life. I kept drinking the baking soda water through the whole time. This is not a joke. Put baking soda in the fucking water!! :)
 
I'm not sure I'd tell your doc you've been snorting K every day for a year. That's the kind of thing he'd need to contact the DVLA about and get your driving license taken away until you can "prove" you're safe to drive.
 
I thought Dr's have a duty of confidentiality to their patients. Indeed law enforcement official's would have to get a court ordered subpoena to be able to access information that a Dr has record of. Breach of confidentiality is a serious offence and can lead to a Dr being sued, discredited and having their license to practice revoked or suspended. I doubt that the licencing authority for motor vehicles has some kind of super power over duty of confidentiality when the police need a subpoena. Ismene I wonder about your source for this kind of information? In the interest of HR and your really fucking sick from excessive K use and your bladder is fucked a confidential chat with your treating Dr is probably a good idea.

Ural will do the same thing as backing soda water and taste less nasty but both inversely may increase the elimination time of the drug due to urine alkalinity.
 
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lovepsychadelics said:
I doubt that the licencing authority for motor vehicles has some kind of super power over duty of confidentiality when the police need a subpoena. Ismene I wonder about your source for this kind of information?
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Official DVLA guidelines given to all medical professionals/doctors. If you're found to be dependent on alcohol or any drug the DVLA will require confirmation from your doctor before you are allowed your license back:

Alcohol dependence, confirmed by medical enquiry, requires licence revocation or refusal until a 1 year period free from alcohol problems has been attained.
Licence restoration
Will require satisfactory medical reports from own doctor(s) and may require independent medical examination and blood tests, arranged by DVLA

NB: Multiple substance misuse and/or dependence – including misuse with alcohol – is incompatible with licensing fitness

Group 1 entitlement ODL – car, motorcycle
Persistent use of or dependence on these substances, confirmed by medical enquiry, will lead to licence refusal or revocation until a minimum 6 month period free of such use has been attained.


https://www.gov.uk/current-medical-...-for-professionals-conditions-a-to-c#cannabis
 
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