Alcohol makes time faster?

[Cuhpcakes]

Alcohol seems to improve the distortion of speed, at least for me any way. What seems like 30 seconds is actually 3 minutes.

Thoughts?

 

[angeleyes]

Tbh I've had a few Christmas drinks and suddenly it's 11:11 omg make a wish 420, it's bedtime soon and just before it actually was 4:20

& when is alcohol psychedelic btw hahaha I WISH A PSYCHEDELIC BEVERAGE WOULD BE RAD

 

[Cuhpcakes]

Consider it a dissociative, because it makes me act sooooo different!

More careless and aggresive. Personalities I do not regularly celebrate.

Shots for shots with my brother and cousin. Ciroc Amaretto, smooth yet effective.

Still feeling euphoric after a six hour nap, lol.

But yeah, songs fly by before I notice. What the hell!

 

[Solipsis]

Alcohol is not a psychedelic, (so moved PD >> OD ) even if it is an NMDA antagonist like dissociatives are. There are plenty of other explanations: awareness is generally diminished and dumbed down just like on many other downers and we experience time as the rate of successing experiential events - though we do have ways to process this to try and normalize and sync with an inner clock it can be thrown out of whack when there are extremely few or extremely many stimuli within a certain timespan.
I think cannabis and psychedelics can cause time dilation because it enhances our sensitivity to stimuli processed as events. This may also cause the feeling of novelty from mundane things while tripping.
IMO

 

[Cuhpcakes]

Alcohol is not a psychedelic, (so moved PD >> OD ) even if it is an NMDA antagonist like dissociatives are. There are plenty of other explanations: awareness is generally diminished and dumbed down just like on many other downers and we experience time as the rate of successing experiential events - though we do have ways to process this to try and normalize and sync with an inner clock it can be thrown out of whack when there are extremely few or extremely many stimuli within a certain timespan.
I think cannabis and psychedelics can cause time dilation because it enhances our sensitivity to stimuli processed as events. This may also cause the feeling of novelty from mundane things while tripping.
IMO

Very great explanation, what class of drugs would you consider alcohol?

I've done many substances but they don't make time appear faster than alcohol.

 

[blight12]

I have the same thing with all euphorics. I think its the basic concept that "time flies when you are having fun".

Of course depressants can also see to speed up time in high "blackout" level doses. No memory means no perception of time passing i guess.

The psychedelics are definitely unique with the time dilation effect but the depressants and stimulants i rekon are more due to your experience and not the drug itself. Eg stimulants might pass time really quick due to the increased focus on specific activities.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Yeah, if you drink enough.. you can actually time travel!

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Yeah, if you drink enough.. you can actually time travel!

Haha I would time travel when I would drink in the past. I'd be in a bar drinking and next thing you know I'd be at home or in someone else's house, and it would be the next afternoon or night and I'd be badly hungover. Merry Christmas and Happy new year everyone.

 

[electrodevo]

Very great explanation, what class of drugs would you consider alcohol?
I've done many substances but they don't make time appear faster than alcohol.

I believe that the primary effect of alcohol is GABAergic.

However, alcohol hits a *lot* of receptors. Its messy profile probably interacts way more with dopamine / serotonin / etc. then a purer GABAergic like say a benzo, and such interaction probably explains some of the unique behavior (the aggressive / impulsive behavior, the combination stimulant / depressive effect, etc.)

EG: Ethanol does have some interaction with dopamine so it's not surprised people note some similarity to stimulant behavior.

 

[Cuhpcakes]

I believe that the primary effect of alcohol is GABAergic.

However, alcohol hits a *lot* of receptors. Its messy profile probably interacts way more with dopamine / serotonin / etc. then a purer GABAergic like say a benzo, and such interaction probably explains some of the unique behavior (the aggressive / impulsive behavior, the combination stimulant / depressive effect, etc.)

EG: Ethanol does have some interaction with dopamine so it's not surprised people note some similarity to stimulant behavior.

Alcohol has little to no effect on serotonin release outside natural causes. It does however release dopamine in noticable amounts, as you stated.

Found this out after tedious research on serotonin syndrome. Those who inhibit the disease are recommended to abstain from serotonin antagonists. Alcohol, benzos and low amounts of opiates won't agitate this medical complication further.

Everything else you stated is spot on. If I'm wrong about the alcohol statement, please provide adaquate proof.

 

[electrodevo]

Yeah, regarding the major neurotransmitters, I agree that most of the *physiological / physical effects* are either GABA oriented or dopamine oriented. Even though alcohol is an NMDA antagonist, it doesn't seem like a whole lot of the "alcohol effect" is explained by this.

I believe it is incorrect to say that it has no effect on serotonin; however, for the purposes of what we are talking about (the immediate contribution to behavior) serotonin does seems irrelevant. Most of the papers I've Googled on serotonin focus on serotonin system changes in chronic alcoholics, see this paper for instance..

One possible exception is that ethanol is a 5-HT3 agonist, apparently significant enough to where 5-HT3 antagonists were explored to combat alcoholism. 5-HT3 agonists typically cause nausea and vomiting from what I understand. I don't see any papers on "what causes ethanol nausea" and there's an obvious explanation (ethanol and its metabolite acetaldehyde are toxins, natch). But ethanol being a 5-HT3 agonist can't help matters any!