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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

sex drive??! hows it looking for you.. opiates killed mine.

Yeah eating them had extremely low bioavailability Im not surprised you didnt feel anything from that. But yeah when I had the 2mg ones Id crush about 4 or 5 of them mix with water and add a tiny bit of heat. They would dissolve crystal clear. Mmmm God Id love some of those little beauties haha.

see, I kinda knew about diludid at the time but I was already shooting so much dope that I didnt even want to start fucking w/ the daludid. I figured they'd work on top of the dope but I was so high/nodded out that I barely noticed. surprising I didnt crush up and shoot since I was shooting anyway but I was never really a pill shooter so most times I'd just take w/ my dope.
 
Opiates seriously fuck up your endocrine system . When you abuse opiates, your pituitary gland literally gets all out of wack and normal functioning is inhibited. The pituitary gland is located right by the hippocampus and the pleasure center of the brain like the nucleus accumbens. By using opiates you activate this part of the brain and as result you malevolently affect neighboring parts of the brain (i.e. the pituitary gland). Usually the pituitary gland shuts down and thus the cholesterol(building block for all hormones) is directed all towards producing cortisone. As a result, extremely limited amounts of DHEA(precursor for testosterone/estrogen) are produced. Because your body doesn't make enough DHEA, your testosterone and estrogen levels suffer (yes males have estrogen too but in lower levels than women). Low levels of testosterone in males cause fatigue/physical exhaustion and inhibited levels of energy, decrease libido, inability to grow muscle mass, ect... A person with low testosterone levels usually walk around all day with increase delta-wave activity (the brain wave associated with sleep)

I suggest going to an endocrinologist to get your hormone blood-levels tested. That is the only way to know for sure. To fix this the doctor can prescribe DHEA supplements and cortisol-blockers depending on your case. Also you can look into neuro-feedback to help stimulate your pituitary gland and to decrease delta-wave activity.
 
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At times I've gone on like I forgot I have a dick when in between relationships. Joking aside my sex drive tumbled when I got on opioids/opiates long-term. My sex drive is pretty low, sadly low for someone of my age. I can stil get it up but wouldn't go as far out of my way to get some like I would've a couple years back. The drive is sporadic and don't even get me started on those sorry ass orgasms that take like 45mins of 'hard work'. I guess the good is that I can last forever because I'm practically on opiates all the time. Now when in withdrawal that's a different story, definately a two pump chump in the midst of withdrawal lol. It's alway good to know that things will get better immediately after quitting.
 
wow, what an educated reply. ha. had to read that twice just make make sure I understood everything.

I really should make an appointment; would be nice to get this problem out of the way, if possible.
 
Definitely make a doctor appointment . I am in the same department as you, I recently got my hormones tested and my testosterone are incredibly low. Opiate abuse specifically fucks up the endocrine system the most, this happens to almost all users of opiates.

I am 105 days off opiates and I still feel crappy most of the time. I have like no energy and no sex drive. Fucked up hormones and feeling shitty even after a long period of abstinence sometimes cause people who are coming off opiates to relapse to seek relief from feeling awful.

Exercise doesn't help me, sometimes it makes me feel even worse and sluggish, and I even eat pretty healthy and that doesn't help much either.
 
do benzo's also cause this hormone issue?

Benzodiazepines are a little different because they are one of the only"recreational" substances if you will that doesn't cause an increase of dopamine. They don't really affect the pleasure center of the brain so they don't cause as severe hormonal issues. But yes benzos do affect your endocrine system to some degree. Mainly benzodiazepines cause cortisol levels to fluctuate which inturn causes the pituitary gland to shift production to cortisol with cholesterol from producing DHEA and onto testosterone.

Benzodiazepines and sleeping pills initially suppress Cortisol production, but tolerance to the medication and withdrawals can produce severe stress that in turn causes the adrenal glands to produce higher amounts of Cortisol. Benzodiazepines impair the stress response system of the body and not surprisingly a long and varied list of side effects are associated with continued use. As GABA activity increases, the brain’s output of the excitatory neurotransmitters Norepinephrine (Noradrenaline), Serotonin, Acetyl Choline and Dopamine is reduced. These chemicals are necessary for normal alertness, muscle tone, memory, coordination, heart rate, blood pressure and emotional responses, and are all affected by continued use of anxiety medications. Other benzodiazepine receptors that are not linked to GABA are also present in the colon, kidneys, blood cells and adrenal glands. The direct and indirect actions are responsible for the adverse side effects of benzodiazepines and explain why the kidneys, colon, blood cells and adrenal glands are affected. Depletion of Cortisol and alterations in the immune function can also occur. This helps to explain why long term benzodiazepine use (greater than 12 weeks) can have a compromised endocrine system; which includes the adrenal glands, hormones, thyroid, pineal gland, pituitary, and reproductive glands.

Continuous use of sleeping pills disrupt the natural sleep cycle by inducing a hypnotic state almost entirely lacking REM (Rapid Eye Movement). But REM sleep is the restorative and rejuvenating sleep that our body needs to heal itself. Chronic users of sleeping pills will suffer from long term issues of sleep deprivation and fatigue that drive Cortisol levels higher and lead to adrenal fatigue.

Depression, anxiety, insomnia and obsessive-compulsive symptoms are all consequences of elevated Cortisol in the long-term effects on Seratonin and Dopamine production.

Individuals with adrenal fatigue can follow a distinct energy pattern – Fatigued in the morning, rarely feeling awake before 10 am, and not feeling fully awake until after a noon meal. There will be a lull in their Cortisol in the afternoon between 2-4 pm leading to sleepiness or clouded thinking, then an increase in energy level after 6 pm, although they tire easily, they feel best at night and resist going to sleep until after 11 pm.

Cortisol production is naturally high in the early morning hours (around 7 am) to assist with the waking cycle. But those who chronically stress their adrenal glands have lower concentrations in the morning. Many will consume caffeine in an attempt to boost Cortisol, which further stresses the adrenals. Then at night the elevated Cortisol prevents the ability to enter Stage 4 REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep, which the body needs for recovery. Gastrointestinal issues including bloating, indigestion, heartburn and reflux also add to the stress on your adrenals.
 
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Definitely make a doctor appointment . I am in the same department as you, I recently got my hormones tested and my testosterone are incredibly low. Opiate abuse specifically fucks up the endocrine system the most, this happens to almost all users of opiates.

I am 105 days off opiates and I still feel crappy most of the time. I have like no energy and no sex drive. Fucked up hormones and feeling shitty even after a long period of abstinence sometimes cause people who are coming off opiates to relapse to seek relief from feeling awful.

Exercise doesn't help me, sometimes it makes me feel even worse and sluggish, and I even eat pretty healthy and that doesn't help much either.

I'm definitely going to have to look into this, it sounds like me too much (in addition to everything else...). Are the hormone tests difficult? I assume it's not part of normal blood panels?
 
Nope they are the exactly the same as a regular blood test. Just go and get your blood drawn . My doctor gave me a labcorp sheet with different hormones checked off. The test takes about 3-5 days to do, it's just like any other routine blood drawing. Just go to the doctor and he will order or write down needs to be tested .
 
Damn, I wish we'd had this conversation 2 weeks ago, I just got my blood drawn, and I hate getting blood taken... But I've got an appointment coming up I'll mention it, I'll probably ask my GI doc though cause my PM dr can be a space case.
 
It's worth it. I hate feeling like I have NO energy. It will really help, but it is hard to find a doctor who is knowledgable about opiate addiction and endocrine malfunctions. You need to see a specialist
 
I do have no energy, but some days it's definitely from chronic malnutrition rather than testosterone because of digestive deficiencies, as opposed to opiate addiction (as I've never been physically addicted, if anything I'm beginning to suspect a dopamine deficiency). I guess I'll start with my GI and go from there. At least my medications are prescribed so we can tackle this as part of a normal treatment regiment.
 
why am I craving sex? cuz I got this hot chick who I want to fuck, thats why. I am sick of being a young dude w/ a dick that does shit nowadays cuz of all the dope that got in this body. I used to love fucking; every which way possible and get super weird w the ladies. then there came a time where you were lucky if I even took my dick out thats how unhorny and miserable I was when it came to the dope. I would rather stick a needle and have it penetrate my arm then stick my dick and have it penetrate a pussy. ya understand now? its kinda a problem; esp. to the guys out there who can easily get laid but their dick is down and out due to drugs.

well i am in good shape and could get laid all the time if i had the desire but i dont..it is bizarre but i consider it a blessing in many ways but u have a gf..fuck it, just get rid of her thats what i would do lol...you can take all these other pro-sexual meds and theyll work temporarily but until u fix main issue...yeah, opiates kill testosterone levels, go have yours checked..
 
Definitely make a doctor appointment . I am in the same department as you, I recently got my hormones tested and my testosterone are incredibly low. Opiate abuse specifically fucks up the endocrine system the most, this happens to almost all users of opiates.

I am 105 days off opiates and I still feel crappy most of the time. I have like no energy and no sex drive. Fucked up hormones and feeling shitty even after a long period of abstinence sometimes cause people who are coming off opiates to relapse to seek relief from feeling awful.

Exercise doesn't help me, sometimes it makes me feel even worse and sluggish, and I even eat pretty healthy and that doesn't help much either.

i was the same way after coming off methadone..just felt sluggish, tired, mentally drained, no sex drive for a long time, i still do in fact to a lesser degree..thats whats so horrible about kicking opiates..

as far as boosting your testosterone levels up, dhea and other things likely wont do much, you will need actual testosterone injections to get your system up and running again..androgel doesnt do shit for most people..problem with testosterone replacement therapy, once on it you are on it for life..you dont jump on and off with that..
 
I have the same problem and it sucks. My fiancé thinks it's her but I tell her she could put the hottest super model, porn star or whatever in front of me and I still wouldn't be in the mood for sex. I don't know anything to bring it back up, well not anything OTC at least. I've thought about talking to a doctor but I have no insurance and can't pay for a visit to the doctors. I wish there was something I could do. I just turned 23 and I have the sex drive of a 70 year old and it's taking a toll on my relationship
 
In the morning when I wake up while on the dope I have some desire, but thats about it. I mean if its been like 3+ days since I got one off then I can at least maintain an erection while high, but it takes a lot to get off. Thing is in the morning when I can, I feel god awful and want to just dose. Definitely not in mood for sex, too much effort and I won't last long, so it will be very unsatisfying. Now when I am high and able to keep it up then you know you are like superman, but get no reward in the end for yourself for the most part. Buprenorphine is great for giving back the sex drive while also giving you a little extra stamina from its partial opiate agonist effects.
 
my sex drive has been MUCH BETTER since getting off the dope and just using dupe; other day the girl slept over and I woke up w/ a nice ROCK SOLID ON and ready to get nasty; luckily, all worked out and it made me look good, phew. my hormone levels are def. on their way back up but they are NO WHERE NEAR where they should be.

last relationship I was in I felt bad for the girl cuz my dick was barely working; I was shooting so much dope and my life revolved around dope that she barely got to see anything in my pants, ha. hoping this new girl gets a NEW and DIFFERENT man. after all, I am sober now, right? well, kinda sober.

RTrain - you think the bupe is great? like I said, I am def. seeing more of a drive but it still worries me after all these years of having NO DRIVE AT ALL! good to know the bupe still gives me dick a shot, ha.
 
^^are you only using bupe?thats it, no benzos or stimulants of any kind??even caffeine can have a negative effect on erections...how old are you again, im guessing early 20s??do you exercise on a daily basis, is your diet ok?
 
31. I use benzo's here and there but for the most part its just bupe. caffeine is not something I drink often; may have a coffee once or twice a week.

dicks been working fine since this post. I got scared and made it but its been performing much better than it once did. very happy to say that. ha. nice to have the thing work for me again.
 
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