Stimulants Novice at IV'ing Meth. I need some basic safety guidelines please....

[80ampd]

I hope I'm not repeating this thread. I have only shot-up a handful of times so far (crystal) and I'm getting mixed results each time, such as...little bumps on surface of skin, bruising even when I hit the vein with good register, same size dosages seem to produce different results as far as "rush".... Here's what I'm doing...

place 75mg of clear, crushed shards in spoon
add 10-15cc water
stir and crush solution
add heat until barely steaming but not boiling
stir again
draw up through tiny piece of cotton filter
insert needle directly on top of vein at 45degree angle

Now, when I hit vein and register, blood draws slowly in a tiny stream, I proceed to inject...Sometimes it stings a bit even though I seem to have hit perfectly, sometimes no stinging but ends up bruised and/or swollen and sometimes little bumps like bug bites appear almost instantly after pull-out....

Forgive me if I'm going about this thread wrong, and Please, any advice that may help me to do this more safely is MUCH appreciated!
Thank's, Blues!
p.s....The dope I use is always the same quality, HIGH (it's always in form of shards that are almost completely clear and in water it disappears and slightly thickens the water)

 

[Beefy]

Ok, I recently started banging meth because i'm now friends with a group of people who always have it. what you should do, and what every experienced user(I think), is this. Put a cup of tap water in teh microwave for like 50 secs. till it's very hot. maybe you should tend to do that as the last step. then break up the shards so they go in the top hole end of the syringe. then u put in the plunge till about where all the shards and powder are. then u add the hot water. about 50 units or so. and keep shaking that syringe. the point is to make all the shards dissolve. and even when i have tried with cold water, tehy do. but with hot water, it is MUCH quicker. so when ur sure that u don't see the littlest of shards floating around in the water in the rig, then it's ready.
But now to the Injection of meth. Meth shouldn't really be injected when just a small traces of blood appears streams inside the syringe, that's NOT when you should register. It might burn/hurt. I've heard it's because you're not really in a vein, maybe the side of it. But try to hit right on top of the vein. if you're using the short tips. just inject them straight into your vein. no on an angle. unless u can really see ur angles. but only register, when you draw blood, and it squirts into the syring. then you're def. in a vein, and it won't hurt or any of that bad stuff. my last hit almost turned out like this, but i've read about this, and kept pulling out till i saw a splash of blood. I just hate trying to find a vein with a rig that already had blood in it.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

First of all, you do no heat meth.

 

[shroomster]

No heat is needed to "safely" inject meth. Cooking your meth will actually cook off some of your active ingredient, although I'd doubt you'd notice. People that cook their product before injection are simply too impatient to stir it into a solution. When I used, I admittedly cooked my product lightly as well.

The bruising is blood from your vein. Bruising is very normal, especially if you're reusing needles (including trying to hit a vein, pulling out and sticking it in again). The brusing may also be because you're not hitting your vein as well as you believe you are.

If you notice any stinging upon injection, you are missing some of your shot. You may be partially in the vein, and partially out. This would explain the bumps, swollen area and, especially, the differences in "the rush" that you described. If you are fully in a vein, IME, the register is more than a light stream of blood. You also shouldn't have to aspirate to notice you're in.

Also, just my usual shpeal to IV meth newbs. You're in for a ride, so be prepared. You may think you have it under control, but odds are it's controlling you.

 

[laCster]

Are you rotating injection sites? After hitting the same vein over and over again blood will only trickle into the barrel and won't silhouette in. Or you just have bad blood flow. Also reusing needles causes the suction of such needle to weaken which can also cause the blood to only trickle in and not rush in.

Here's a tip to. Right when you break the surface of your skin, pull back and keep going deeper until you hit a vein. Right when you hit blood will automatically enter the syringe via a vacuum you created by pulling back early. Make sure you push down slowly and steady, halfway through the hot pull back to make sure you are still in. I usually use 30-50 units of water btw, but if you still have trouble stick with 20-30

Also don't heat drugs before you IV. All the gunk is left at the bottom which is shit ou don't want in your body

 

[shroomster]

Are you rotating injection sites? After hitting the same vein over and over again blood will only trickle into the barrel and won't silhouette in. Or you just have bad blood flow. Also reusing needles causes the suction of such needle to weaken which can also cause the blood to only trickle in and not rush in.

Here's a tip to. Right when you break the surface of your skin, pull back and keep going deeper until you hit a vein. Right when you hit blood will automatically enter the syringe via a vacuum you created by pulling back early. Make sure you push down slowly and steady, halfway through the hot pull back to make sure you are still in. I usually use 30-50 units of water btw, but if you still have trouble stick with 20-30

Also don't heat drugs before you IV. All the gunk is left at the bottom which is shit ou don't want in your body

Yep. She says some of her shots sting, so that right there is an indication she's not fully in the vein.

 

[Beefy]

i've missed a few shots. and omg! that stinging is a bitch. I'm kind of glad though that there's something to inform you, "Hey, you might miss your shot". I woke up earlier today and did a shot and the rush was soooo good. now i have a little left, i'm wondering if i should just finish it now or wait like 6hrs.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

i've missed a few shots. and omg! that stinging is a bitch. I'm kind of glad though that there's something to inform you, "Hey, you might miss your shot". I woke up earlier today and did a shot and the rush was soooo good. now i have a little left, i'm wondering if i should just finish it now or wait like 6hrs.

It's always going to be better the longer you wait... though I'm sure you did it right away after posting this, hah.

 

[the_ketaman]

Even if theres the tiniest drop of meth on the outside of the needle it will cause swelling like that bug bite, usually just gets itchy right? Well try not to miss even a 1/4 of your shot coz it hurts and burns like a mofo. It can really be a distressing experience so my suggestion which I myself learnt ftom oldskool bl'ers is get a washed or some tissue, wet it wit hot water and do a warm compress on the site and rum in circles. This along with some hirudoid cream an hour or 2 after will be your best chance at avoiding an abcess. Ive been shooting heroin, meth, coke and all kinds of pills and powders and ive never had an abcess.

 

[Beefy]

well, what i meant was...not heating the cooker.... IDK if this is a NYC thing, or with the whole "Tina" scene.
But it's pretty well known among that circle that it's easier/faster if/when you are drawing up warm water after you put your shards/powder in the back of the rig(backloading???). So far i've met about 6 people who all do this(including a dealer). I think it started as a way to have it dissolve quicker when you're shaking it back and forth. So no one has heard of this?

 

[thadocta13]

OK also can i say something please? A tip to avoid getting your rig all clogged up when you use it a 2nd time, which you should be using a new one each time you slam, but hey im not your mom. anyways, what i do if i only have one rig and need it for multiple doses. To avoid blood clogging it and making it hard to register what you do is after a shot immediately take clean water and suck up about 40cc and then some air and shake it real good (after you've put the cap on before shaking it), and then you empty it. Repeat one more time and your rig wont clog up with blood.

The way i look at it is if you dont do this, then that clogged blood can release into the shot and form blood clots. Not good.

You're at the right place to hone your IV etiquette %)

 

[MrSpeedyG]

The best safety advice I can give you is to not IV meth at all.

 

[Morphling]

You do not need to heat meth. You do not need to heat the cooker. Meth will dissolve immediately upon touching water. At most, you might have to swirl it around a little tiny bit. Seriously, it melts on contact with water.

Second, STOP with the redosing. Have your tweak, and then be done with it and get some rest. This reduces excitotoxicity, keeps your tolerance lower, and is the absolute best policy any tweaker can have. REST, child, rest. Sleep!

Take your vitamins. Getcha sum. Interact with normal people. Do your shit. Then be done, and live to tweak another day. When you start crawling the walls and bugs are poppin out of everything you'll think back to this thread like 'dayum.'

That's pretty much beastmode level tweaker policy. Honestly, I'd really suggest you back out of this IVing meth practice and just EAT it or plug it.

 

[TrichomeFarmer]

I like to assume that IVers have reliable access to clean dope. If you're not more than certain of purity you can attempt to quick wash to prepare the shot before use.
Any junk that does not readily dissolve crushed in water within 30 seconds is likely an adulterant.
Using cold water in your spoon will reduce the solubility of some cuts like MSM, in principal, allowing the filter to segregate the meth20 solution into your syringe from 'no-good' leftover solids left on the spoon.
Evaporating the remaining solution from the spoon gives the user a chance to observe the undissolved salts.

If no leftovers are found you get the entire shot. Either way, get what you want and or leave whatever if you don't. The benefit is mitigated loss associated with other methods.

 

[80ampd]

You do not need to heat meth. You do not need to heat the cooker. Meth will dissolve immediately upon touching water. At most, you might have to swirl it around a little tiny bit. Seriously, it melts on contact with water.

Second, STOP with the redosing. Have your tweak, and then be done with it and get some rest. This reduces excitotoxicity, keeps your tolerance lower, and is the absolute best policy any tweaker can have. REST, child, rest. Sleep!

Take your vitamins. Getcha sum. Interact with normal people. Do your shit. Then be done, and live to tweak another day. When you start crawling the walls and bugs are poppin out of everything you'll think back to this thread like 'dayum.'

That's pretty much beastmode level tweaker policy. Honestly, I'd really suggest you back out of this IVing meth practice and just EAT it or plug it.

Wow, eventhough this reply kinda' makes me feel like "Gee, thank's MOM"...It really is the most SOLID advice I can imagine giving a tweaker such as myself.. And yes, the very next "Tweak-out" that I found myself in, I in-fact DID remember back to this exact reply, and was like "DAYUMM, dat shits fo'real"!

 

[80ampd]

Thank you all ::sniffles in embarassed, yet relieved manor::

 

[Amphetafiendd]

I decided to remove my post as it was a bit full on and me being a douche bag. Pretty much drink water, vitamins and food every 24hrs. People telling you to dose every other day or once a week is redundant, its like telling opiate addicts to only dose every 24hrs or once a week... It doesn't work and IS NOT effective advice in the real world. Goodluck with your meth endeavors, your gonna need it.