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friends turned dealers.. how things change!

my bad then. i should have said, "MY DEALER beating me is a waste". he and I both know I was his #1.

I think we all gotta realize here that this game is played differently in SOOOO MANY WAYS! enough of always thinking its only played your way, or how your played it in the past, etc. the dope scene is from the ground floor all the way to the top; although, the peeps up top may drop pf they keep using. but there are so many different types of junkies, dealers, users, pushers, etc. I'm not here to argue over how to buy, where to buy, etc. ALL I WAS DOING was saying I lost a friend to this game (not my first loss but most were due to death) but this friend I lost was due to sobriety.
 
I dont claim SouthJerz doesnt have friendships/dealer relationships; I just always hear of you guys street coping. I never street copped in my life; so that's a totally different game to me. each and every person on this board plays the game differently; although, we all have the same thing in common - DOPE!

Junkiedays - a dealer BEATING you is a waste; because guess what? they LOSE their customer; esp. since I was a 3x's a day type customer. so yes, thats what I meant by "why would he beat me". he would lose out on close to a thousand a week if he wanted to do that. pretty sure they are smarter than that.

I'm not buying anymore which is why this thread was originally made; I have no heard, seen or know the kid anymore. it's what I am saying about how drugs/dealers just kill friendships. It's also better for the both of us at this point since I am trying to stay clean and he has no reasons NOT to stay clean since he's running the streets and basically using for free/making cash.

everyone plays the game different.

You would think they were smarter than that, but a lot of people are only thinking in the now, and if a dude is sick he doesnt care about potential money in the future, he only cares about what he can get his hands on now. Regardless of brdges that may be burned in the process.

Thats one of the first things people always say "why would he beat me if he could potentially make thousands off me if he was good to me and did right by me?" People are dumb and will do whatever for a quick fix, especially when sick.
 
People who sell drugs often end up trying to turn the friends into customers. They say bullshit like that it is their price and its not their main source. These are usually the lowest to lower level dealers and they are usually addicts. They often time cop from real dealers and jack their prices and sell to their friends just to get by.

Also the thing is no one commits felonies for free. There is significant risk a person assumes when they distribute drugs.

I do not think you will find many friends when you use drugs. People are just aquaintances in that type of situation and every form of friendship or relationship usually is rather codependent in nature.

If the OP is bothered about how his friend charges him he should either accept that he is just a customer or find another source. Its not really like your friend hates you so much as that your friend is a straight up addict. He may be cutting you a slight deal or not.

If someone has shitty prices I do not see why its worth buying from them.
 
Your "friendship" was based on drugs etc...why in the world would you think things would be any different (as many other said)..

But did you lose your friend to sobriety or to him ripping you off?
 
sobriety. its actually him doing me a favor; not sure if you read though this but he would supply me. he always thought i was a sniffer and not a shooter. when i OD'd and he found out I was a shooter and actually STOPPED wanting to sell to me cuz of how I lied for so many years; so in ways he is a friend.. in other ways there are def. some back stories to it all. but in ways I thank him for what he is doing. i def. have called him just to chat or whatever, and who knows what it MAY have led to. him not answering did me the favor.

it just goes w/ drugs, tho. relationships end based on drugs. same goes for the last GF but it was me leaving her once I got clean; when high I would sit there miserable and not know what to say/day so why not get more and more high. to the point nodding/sleeping is just passing the time that i refuse to be a man about and tell her. sad, wasted story. when thinking back on my life i think how dope truly ruined my life.
 
^clean or sober that sounds like a shitty relationshp, especially if you couldnt even think of things to say to her when high. If you couldnt conversate when high...how did you stand each other sober? Did she use? Im usually most comfortable around people high.
 
nah, didnt use. im thankful or else I would have prob died; then again, she would have always taken half my dope, so I would have been pissed. either way, I was unhappy which led me to use much more than I wanted/need/should have at the time. I was miserable. piece of advice to all, if you know you use cuz of a certain reason, get that certain reason out of your life. if thats what makes you miserable REMOVE IT!
 
Y not have a dealer that doesn't use drugs ? (any hard ones at all). I mean really... I thought that was fkin standard. Both my dealers don't use drugs, they've chilled with us but when we've offered them a line they'll always refuse. But we literally have a race of dealer here, like you have latinos there we have something similar (but apparently more professional) here. Peace.
 
Easier said than done.

I agree, thats why it took me as long as it did to stop using the dope and practically burying myself. whacky to say but I thank my most recent OD and also my after care in a PSYCH UNIT that helped me "find the light". of course, I am still on bupe, down to about 8MG/day but some days will double the dosage depending on how I feel. I started at 24MG about 4 months ago and dropped pretty quickly to 16MG and then 12MG and now 8MG. I am in no rush to get off these since my life has changed dramatically FOR THE BETTER. as said before:

- I left the girlfriend
- I left the apartment
- I left the job
- I left the area/friends
- I left the meds I was "on"
- I left the DOPE

things have been great since. getting things in order; found better things to worry about then when my next fix will be. but as said before, i def. still smoke weed and use benzos when needed or for "fun"; although, not much fun in a benzo.
 
Y not have a dealer that doesn't use drugs ? (any hard ones at all). I mean really... I thought that was fkin standard. Both my dealers don't use drugs, they've chilled with us but when we've offered them a line they'll always refuse. But we literally have a race of dealer here, like you have latinos there we have something similar (but apparently more professional) here. Peace.

Well yeah if you can find one. Depends on locations as to how easy that is.

Seems the higher you go up the "corporate ladder" the more likely that your dealing with professionals who don't fuck around with the drugs. The problem with a dealer who uses is the inconsistency more than anything. If hes struggling, everyone he supplies ends up feeling the brunt of it. All of a sudden the g's are weighing out .1 short or the stuff seems more hacked up....its probably because the dealer didn't hit his quota, used too much one night or has some unexpected expenses pop up.

Man I gotta say I wish this thread was on the level of the Chi-town, NYC and NJ threads. Its clear reading this thread and then reading those other ones and its easy to see where your better off if looking to score some dope. I mean I know my stuff would be considered bunk to a lot of city peeps and the prices are steep, but it ain't so easy round these parts to find other options. Which gives leverage to the dealers. As much as I'd love to explore the city, I happen to be as white as the snow outside. Gotta take chances to make things happen, I suppose.
 
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Well yeah if you can find one. Depends on locations as to how easy that is.

Seems the higher you go up the "corporate ladder" the more likely that your dealing with professionals who don't fuck around with the drugs. The problem with a dealer who uses is the inconsistency more than anything. If hes struggling, everyone he supplies ends up feeling the brunt of it. All of a sudden the g's are weighing out .1 short or the stuff seems more hacked up....its probably because the dealer didn't hit his quota, used too much one night or has some unexpected expenses pop up.

exactly. they are NOT easy to find. I used to be "one" of these dealer in the 80's (OC 80's, that is) days. this is going back to around 1999/2000 when they first hit and were blowing up. I wasnt using at the time and only sold in packs (5, 10, 20, 100, whatever). ton of money was made then but jail was soon to follow a few years later. i had some other friends do the 1 off deals. the thing about dealing w/ someone who isnt on the drug is they DONT REALIZE how important/critical the drug is needed when asked for. I used to think it was nothing to wait a few extra days to push some of my shit; not realizing some people may be going through withdrawals or hurting or doing whacked out shit to get the dosage. I thought nothing of it cuz I knew nothing of the drug. as time went on I learned more and more and also started to take more and more. and before you know it I am selling 300 80's to an under cover. investigation went on after that and was picked up 6 months later. life sucked but I stayed clean for a while both IN jail and also after on parole. things went back down hill again around 07/08 when I first picked up an 80 again and ripped it. no selling, just buying in the later days. lots and lots of buying, unfortunately, which lead to a miserable life.
 
Ive never had a friend who ended up becoming a dealer, but my main and pretty mucch only dealer due to the amount of difference substances he can get so fast is one of my best friends. I met them through work, i was cooking in a resteraunt and his wife was a waitress and we just became friends and maybe 4 months lateri found out theyre also dealers. We've been pretty inceperable (sp?) since then. They sometimes even cal me son and tell other people who come over to score that im part of their family, but im sure they say that so the person who comes over doesnt freak out and think im a cop or something. As for your question tho, i cant really respond sorry, I havent had that experience but i do have something to say.


It sounds like you are one of his customers he knows he can overcharge. You obviously havent done anything about it so in his eyes, youre a bit of a bitch and will do what he says. Youre making my point by making this thread and not taking this conversation to him. If fists get thrown so be it, just dont go out as a fucking punk. Stan your ground, ask him straight up why are you charging so much. if you dont like his answer, find a new dealer. Im not being mean or trying to be mean to you im just trying to say it in a way that should hopefully help you understand whats really going on (possibly... im 85% sure). Ive known many dealers whod sell a 30mg oxy for one price, and then charge alot more for this other guy because hes to much of a punk to stand up to a dealer about prices. Who gives a shit if hes a dealer, if hes fucking you around... he still feels pain and bleeds. Maybe you should show him how you feel with a few jabs to the nose. Ok maybe not I dont want to condone anyone assaulting someone just because, but as i said if it gets physical dont back down. Beat his ass. Who knows maybe youll get some respect from him and he'll go back to old prices. That is if my idea about this situation is anywhere near correct. Ive seen this shit happen alot, but theres know way I can know if its what hes doing. Just go talk to him and ask him why so much money or something
 
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