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RCs IV MDPV with no vasoconstriction or comedown? Huh?

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Lycopene

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This is very weird to me, but I experience literally, or what feels like literally, no vasoconstriction OR come down. No paranoia, nothing bad at all. Well, minus about two minutes of nausea after a 25mg injection.

Am I just crazy or something? Is there any reason for this? Orally I get it, with the same exact batch, and the comedown is terrible.

But this? None! I know this seems like a stupidass thing to worry about, but… should I be worrying that I don’t feel anything negative upon injection?

Also, I’d like to add, I take 10mg diazepam every 8 hours when I’m IVing MDPV.


I would like to add a disclaimer: DO NOT FOLLOW MY DOSAGES. I have a tolerance. It also seems somewhat cross-tolerance with methamphetamine, which I ALSO have a tolerance to. Adjust your dose accordingly, and know that it can be a ride at simply 5-10mg. When I first took it I took 8mg orally. Play it smart. MDPV is not one of the safer drugs out there.
 
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I will say this though. The past week or two I’ve been using methamphetamine intravenously and when I ran out I decided to try MDPV. So I’ve been doing that for about 3.5 days now, and I kinda liked it. Never had any vasoconstriction or anything.

BUTTTTTT. I JUST dosed right now (35mg which is about 10m-15mg more than I normally do, at 7am), and I’m feeling this weird sensation going up my right arm (i’ve tend to inject every four hours that I’m awake, and two a valium with the first, and right before starting the third). It’s FREEZING. My arm is kind a sore? But not too bad. I can still type, albeit not that well for some reason. One annoying things I’ve caused by MDPV inject is blurry vision for up to 12 hours after dosage. It’s pretty sucky and quite annoying as hell. It makes your glasses all but useless—only giving you a headache.

Does anyone know what THAT might be? I honestly think I must be getting SOME vasoconstriction this time, at least, because even my hands are little chilly and my veins aren’t going POP as per usual.

To just clarify my rather unique situation, I don’t need a stim to stay awake. I do it anyway, mainly 5/7 days out of the week… craziness, eh?I just use these for the stimulating effects, since they ARE nice—it combats that annoying yet inevitable sleepiness and doesn’t leave my with foul hunger pangs that I can’t do anything about.

This time I also smoked a bowl IMMEDIATELY after injection to try and combat that two-minute-MDPV-IV-nausea… But WHAT? I like, fell asleep!!! How is that possible!? 10mg diazepam, 35mg MDPV (yeah, I know, it was a bit this time, which is why I reached for the pipe right away so I didn’t barf) and like .1g weed and I am just NOT becoming able to open my eyes properly to type this darned message. I injected about half an hour ago. Wow… I mean, I don’t get ANY euphoria from ANYTHING (not even the beautiful ol’ lady heroin), just an uplifted mood and that “I-don’t-give-a-fuck” attitude toward your normal worries.

But this time was so weird… if hat she’s telling him, she tur got off I laid back and it was like my eyes rolled back in my head. It probably took me 30 minutes total to write this entire message out properly without a darned typo every second. to self: 35mg/IV is TOO much to focus.

but..

[by 7:40am]
And my arm is STILL freezing, but at the time not, you know? It just feels cold down to the bone in my right bone. The injection sites look fine. A little bruised on t

But there’s no chance I missed. I’m far too good at injections to miss. And I always tie off the tourniquet tightly right as I ready to begin scrubbing with an alcohol swab ands setting up the needle for injection. These beautiful 28g Easy Touch needles are the best I’ve EVER use (I know they get a bad rap, but damn—since I’m disabled my Needle Exchange delivers me himself personally, and I get 5,000 syringes, two gigantic reusable grocery bags loaded with cook tins, sterile water ampules, bags and bag of pre-packaged cotton, and 10 box of alcohol swabs (I’ve had these for almost a good year now and I’ve only gone through two boxes… that’s using two for each injection: I clean the microbalance sometimes, but mostly it’s to clean the metal cook tins that’s I mix my little serum up in, before drawing through one of those pre-packed miniature and sterilize cotton balls.


It’s [8:17am] already and I’m STILL typing.
But enough of being a darned advertisement (sorry, I’m rambling I’m sure; you can tell that I’m definitely on high-dose MDPV) - and silly ramblings. My right inner elbow —— (which IS the most abused—my left side I can’t make a good connection there and I do NOT want to miss—so if I haven’t connected within three different times to make my mark, I will get a new needle out and try again, by re-filtering (and adding more saline from the ampule and squirting the other needle’s contents back in. That was I only lose a TINSY bit of the active drug, instead of a lot, but I NEVER reuse.

It is now [11:50am] LOL. Yeah, I fell completely passed out where I was sitting. in the middle of typing that last paragraph… and didn’t send this message. My bad.

Anyway, my right arm is still rather store around the bicep area. Obviously I’m not going to use my right arm for a while, but I have no discoloration of my fingers, feet, knees, and no numbness in my extremities, AND my heart feels just fine. Pulse normal as well.

Wtf made me pass out like that…? I hadn’t even been up for more than 28 hours. o.o That’s… a normal amount of time for me. o_O And a normal about my daily diazepam.
 
Lol, yes, of course. I’m fine. I submitted the comment without correcting the errors, and when I read over it… I just figured I should leave it for people to see.

It was no OD, it was nothing bad at all. I’m perfectly fine in every way. I’ve never had paranoia or hallucinations from extended use, and that was, what I think it was, the first vasoconstriction that I really experienced. And I just kinda fell asleep or passed out, one or the other, after smoking that bowl.

No abscesses, nothing bad at all. I wasn’t worried about ischemia or anything. I was just wondering if the minor pain was abnormal in anyway. I’ve never had it from IV heroin or methamphetamine.
 
Well, I tried it again. No issues at all. I guess I was just tired or something. I think I took the dose about three hours ago? It was 35mg again.


But really, there’s no comedown at all with my IV MDPV use.

Doesn’t that seem strange to you?
 
Thanks for checking up, buddy. :) Yeah, I’m totally fine. I haven’t ever had any complications, really, with any recreational drug. I guess I am pretty lucky.

I take injections VERY seriously though, and I’m SUPER careful. When I can I’ll even use micron filters if I don’t know where I got the drug from. But I’ve NEVER reused a rig, and I’ve NEVER done that crazy thing where people pull back and inject back in… so, so, so, soooo not good for your veins...
 
Oh man, reading your second post gave me chills. It was so all over the place and i can remember how hyped up this stuff made me feel. You are lucky you don't have a comedown, but it might just be delayed and will hit you a day after this use.
 
Yeah, that’s why I left the post up there. I was totally out of it, but i felt almost completely normal.

And no, its not. I mean, there is ZERO comedown. Nothing. It wears off after four hours…. and that’s it. Nothing more. I retested the same dosage again and I was perfectly fine. Marijuana and valium as well. Just as coherent as I am right now.

I don’t get a comedown from IV meth either. And I didn’t feel hyped up. I mean, it’s weird. I sit in my chair on the computer all day long. I still eat and drink, but… just like with meth, I get ZERO energy. Just wakefulness. And zero comedown. But before, when I was writing up that post, I’m glad I remembered to point out the times. It took me almost five hours to write that post out because the entire time I kept just… for lack of a better word… nodding out. Lol. Weirdest experience I’ve ever had. But I didn’t FEEL bad, just freezing lol.

Jeez. It’s certainly true that we all have our own individual pharmacologies. Heh.

I’m really sorry about that jumbled mess of a second post and possibly worrying people. I’m 100% ok, promise. That’s not who I normally am. I’ve never been like that before. I could TELL that I was just.. out of it. I might’ve redosed too quickly. But it passed, I actually SLEPT, and woke up feeling rather refreshed. About 20-30 minutes after I submitted that message I was totally fine. Back to baseline. MDPV is a very, very interesting drug… It must be treated with caution though, that’s for damn sure.

Please, nobody try that high of an IV dosage without first having some sort of… tolerance, I guess. I seem to be ok with it now. I don’t know what happened the first time. Damn, I know it’s said ALL OVER the site, but remember… you can ALWAYS take more, but you can NEVER take less…

Talk about paradoxical reactions, eh?
 
I hope you do not think that you can IV this stuff and avoid a comedown each time. You may have just gotten lucky this one time around. Plus if others read this post they may believe they can avoid a comedown from MDPV if they IV.

Please tell me you are using a micron filter when injecting a research chemical that contains God knows what.
 
You’re completely misunderstanding me. I came here asking what was up with it, I’m not stating that it can’t happen—I’m saying that it hasn’t happened to ME. I even said “Talk about paradoxical reactions, huh?” I hope nobody thinks I meant.


And yes, of course, I mixed up a large batch of MDPV in bacteriostatic water using a micron filter, and I STILL filter through cotton just in case. Don’t worry—like I said, I take injection safety VERY seriously. I was taught how to inject myself professionally, even. I’ve never had an abscess, I’ve missed maybe once… and it was a minor miss with sterile pharmaceutical-grade IV morphine. At least I’m pretty sure. I cant’ remember.


But yes, thank you for your concern. :) I am fine, however. Promise! 8) (FYI, I know exactly where this MDPV came from as well, but that doesn’t mean I don’t take every precaution I can to remain as safe as I can doing something as dangerous as IV injections).

But in case you missed what I wrote in my previous post, here it is for you:

“MDPV is a very, very interesting drug… It must be treated with caution though, that’s for damn sure.

Please, nobody try that high of an IV dosage without first having some sort of… tolerance, I guess. I seem to be ok with it now. I don’t know what happened the first time. Damn, I know it’s said ALL OVER the site, but remember… you can ALWAYS take more, but you can NEVER take less… “ I definitely am not promoting this.


Thanks, brutus. :)
 
I've had the same "ice cold" sensation in my arm when I used to bang MDPV and methylone. I used to think it was temporary nerve damage, but no one had hear about it. Until I read your post. It may somehow be linked to cathinones? Maybe a semi missed shot.

It scared me into quitting for 3 days (WOOHOO). It went away and I got right back into it.
 
Was it pretty cold out? It’s absolutely freezing here. Cold = vasoconstriction. I guess that on top of the MDPV just froze the hell out of me. It’s DEFINITELY not nerve damage, so do not worry about that. It’s just likely the vasoconstriction.

Anyway, yeah… Haven’t had any real problems with the substance yet. I know what my problem earlier was though. My balance’s auto-calibration was whacked. I just reset it and it’s fine now. I probably took a 55mg-ish shot instead of 35mg. It was just too much and I guess it overpowered me.

And this, kids, is why EVERYONE needs at least a milligram scale, and to keep up with its calibration.
 
MDPV is a very... different beast to meth. Dose appropriately no major issues. One small fuck up dose wise, could be as little as an extra 10 mg next time and vasoconstriction. WARNING do not mix with MPA. MPA is very vaso-constrictive and I accidentaly dosed on some 20 mg caps thinking they were 10 of MDPV after doing 100 mg or more MPA during the day. First cap was fine. A few hours later (this was assuming 10 mg and was fairly standard but I'd kept 3 20mg caps in a seperate bag for a festival and forgot about them so I assumed the peeevee was all 10 mg caps, also they were colored caps no clear.) another cap few minutes later tingling right arm. Massive heart rate increase, dizzy as fuck, palpitations, collapsed on the ground, mild CVA? mild stroke? 8 more collapses from chair to bed some 5 meters away. Be careful with peevee it can really catch you out and when it does... pray to god or whatever else you survive. Even more lucky if their is no apparent lasting damage.
 
Yep. That’s exactly what I was saying about weighing out your doses properly. I accidentally got a 55mg shot instead of 25-35mg. Don’t let that happen. MDPV is, yeah, a much different beast than meth is because we simply know more about meth.

I will say this, and someone please chime in if you think this is a bad idea…


But when using MDPV, stay warm. Don’t let yourself overheat, but do NOT let your body get cold, which only add to the vasoconstriction. One thing I’ve noticed that helps ME? Marijuana. It’s a vasodilator. So I suggest to take a couple before you take your MDPV. If you’re injecting it, you will almost inevitably feel that “nausea” in the beginning that lasts for a few minutes. Marijuana helps with that, but it also helps my veins. I keep and eye on them and I don’t notice them shrinking up or anything, really.

Also! I’m not having any difficulties shooting into my left arm anymore now that I’m trying to mix a [relatively?] harmless vasodilator to the mix; marijuana.

If you’re taking it by any other ROA, I’m not really sure. I’ve only taken it orally a few times and then I just moved straight into injecting. I cannot stand the drip or the chemical taste, so I never insufflate (and I like to smell). It’s just me, I don’t recommend anyone else doing what I do. I’m an idiot, I freely and openly admit to it.

I would like to add a disclaimer: DO NOT FOLLOW MY DOSAGES. I have a tolerance. It also seems somewhat cross-tolerance with methamphetamine, which I ALSO have a tolerance to. Adjust your dose accordingly, and know that it can be a ride at simply 5-10mg. When I first took it I took 8mg orally.
 
Yeah. It’s happened twice already. I have zero problems sleeping with MDPV. I dunno… It’s realllllly weird.

I guess it’s just “my” drug, eh? I pretty am damn lucky… But, I get zero real euphoria from ANY drug whatsoever. I just like how the intoxication feels like with MDPV. Plus…

And don’t make fun!


But I have this RIDICULOUS phobia of sleeping. :?

I haven’t heard of anyone falling asleep on it either. Heh.
 
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