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Synthetic. Possibly laced with DMT. Experience and Reaction.

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NyssaBlue

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I'm not entirely sure if it was in fact laced with DMT as I have very little experience with drugs.
But it was a wild ride!

First rip - started feeling light and tingly
Second rip - a loud noise started, like white noise from the TV. Really really loud. A heavy sound followed, much like that of an old fridge.
From there I lost vision for what seemed like half an hour, but from what I was told, was 30 seconds.
I then found myself trying to hold onto reality by naming items on the floor.
Sock. Shoe. Shorts. Why do they all start with S?
These aren't...real...what are these things...where am I?
It was then that everything became pixelated.
The noise was really loud, I couldn't speak and my body wasn't even a part of my existence anymore.
This is where it gets really hard to explain.
I know fighting it makes the bad trip worse, but I couldn't help it.
I was in hell.
The pixelation was painful on my eyes.
I couldn't make sense of anything at all.
It was all just interlocked pictures flashing and swirling and jumping around.
After what seemed like days of that, and entity appeared.
It was a large honeycomb shaped entity that I can really only describe as an "existence".
It was all around me, swallowing me.
Each hollow in the honeycomb held an "existence" a life that belonged to different beings.
Oddly enough the honeycomb faded from candy pink to bright orange.
It was quite pretty haha.
Anyway, from there, I was shot into all of the different realities.
They all flashed before me at lightning speed.
It was quite confusing and scary.
After that went on, everything slowed down a bit and there was a kaleidoscope of these realities, all being mashed up.
I would occasionally hear my friends voices, and have a moment of clarity, chanting their names to myself and assuring myself that they exist and that they are in the reality I need to get back to.
But it wasn't any good.
Just when I would get close to normality, the kaleidoscope would pull me back in.
This went on for what felt like a day.
After that, scenes played before me.
One by one.
They came slow but left fast.
I can only remember a few of them.
One was of me and the two friends in the room, we were on an adventure in a castle.
It was pouring with rain and I felt very cold.
Another was all blocky like minecraft (fricken love minecraft btw.) and all the beings resembled the Power Puff Girls.
Funny stuff.
The scenes were also dark and scary.
I was trapped in a cave full of cult members that wanted to sacrifice me to the queen of the undead.
They were chanting in another language I didn't understand.
And another where I was being chased by Voldemort's snake!
From there, one scene played out.
I was a giant slug with my human face and had been punished.
My punishment was to be cursed to vomit up the towns waste until I vomited up my insides or tore apart my throat from too much vomiting.
I believe this became part of my hallucination because I had thrown up in real life from what I believe was too many visuals, too fast.
I have really bad motion sickness too, so all the whooshing back and forth between realities wouldn't have helped.
Anyway, I vomited and vomited and my friend actually recorded me saying it was a punishment and that I had been cursed by gypsies.
After that, I came to.
Everything was extremely bright and I was in a lot of physical pain from being hunched over and from vomiting from that position.
My head throbbed and the buzzing in my ears was still very loud.
I became euphoric and relieved that I had made it back to my reality.
I am still not 100% recovered emotionally because I was quite traumatized by the experience (since I wasn't expecting it)

-5/10 would not smoke again
haha.
Let me know what you think or if you've experienced anything similar :)
 
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We can't tell you what you took, why are you sniffing lines of random psychedelics you have no experience or knowledge of?
That shit coulda killed you , you're lucky it was probably just ketamine

EDIT I just read you smoked this, I thought you were ripping lines of random powders.
Again we can't tell you what you took, but it's likely that was dmt, but it could be 5-meo-DMT or dpt or others though not many are quite as intense as those three
 
Crazy intense experience.

We can't tell you what it was obviously but it sounds like quite a trip. Two hits? If it wasn't so visual, I would say it sounds like something along the lines of 5-MeO-DMT. DMT tends to be harder to break through on but 5-MeO-DMT is a lot like that just without the visuals for most. I happened to get visuals from it but I still didn't have the entities like I did with DMT although I only had the balls to try that one once, it was very unpleasant overall.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Crazy intense experience.

We can't tell you what it was obviously but it sounds like quite a trip. Two hits? If it wasn't so visual, I would say it sounds like something along the lines of 5-MeO-DMT. DMT tends to be harder to break through on but 5-MeO-DMT is a lot like that just without the visuals for most. I happened to get visuals from it but I still didn't have the entities like I did with DMT although I only had the balls to try that one once, it was very unpleasant overall.
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I agree with you. The one time i tried 5-MEO-DMT, it was sold to me as just DMT. Needless to say it was crazy intense, but largely unpleasent.
 
5-MeO-DMT is the only compound that fits the description.
I find it to be somewhat of a waste of an experience, too intense without muh imagery for context.
Very anxiogenic with a strong confusion component mixed in.

If it were any other traditional psychedelic you would have experienced a much more profound and visually rich ride.


Was this like a changa mixture or vaping a pure compound on a neutral medium? If OP came across the substance in question once, they should be able to gather a few basic facts about the substance in hand. Perhaps it was even a very unusual Salvia experience? Kappa agonism is quite strange indeed.
 
This report sounds like it is talking about a blend of synth cannabinoids hence the title "synthetic possibly laced with dmt."

You just experienced the mind rending power of full agonist synthetic cannabinoids. They tend to produce trips of that degree of intensity and are much more likely to be in a synthetic laced smoking blend.
 
^ sorry but I find it impossibly hard to believe that there is a cannabinoid that goes so far as to mimick the entity contact and even the crazy noises in the ears of DMT and its analogs. Those are pretty unique effects and certainly hinge on more than any cannabinoid could ever muster.
 
Skorpio said:
This report sounds like it is talking about a blend of synth cannabinoids hence the title "synthetic possibly laced with dmt."

You just experienced the mind rending power of full agonist synthetic cannabinoids. They tend to produce trips of that degree of intensity and are much more likely to be in a synthetic laced smoking blend.
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I have no doubt that you are absolutely wrong about this assertion. Overdoses on synthetic cannabinoids tend to be very manic and schizoid in nature, not very psychedelic at all.
 
Was there a really strong stench of burning plastic? If not it wasn't DMT.
 
^^^
I have had JWH-018, JWH-250, and JWH-073 and they all were terrible. JWH-250 set me off into a crazy bizarre and uncomfortable dissociative-like headspace, JWH-018 induced a panic attack with just one tiny hit (not surprising to me though) and JWH-073 I don't remember much positive or negative about it so it likely didn't seem to have any real significant interesting (good or bad) effects on me.

Those were some of the original ones, aka the "good" ones, and I thought they all sucked, I can't even imagine what these other ones are like.

EDIT: I am pretty sure I had JWH-210 as well and there are two that I can't remember at all so I won't include them.
 
Hey all.
I had so much in the way of visuals that I just can't explain what I saw.
It was so intense and so bizarre that I can't properly put it into words.
My friend had it too but didn't react badly to it.
He went off into space and saw all sorts of stars and planets.
No entity to speak of.
and the other guy I was with also had a bad experience and had an entity in his trip.
He also vomited.
 
Skorpio said:
This report sounds like it is talking about a blend of synth cannabinoids hence the title "synthetic possibly laced with dmt."

You just experienced the mind rending power of full agonist synthetic cannabinoids. They tend to produce trips of that degree of intensity and are much more likely to be in a synthetic laced smoking blend.
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This.
How can anyone seriously consider the possibility of synth blend, probably brought from a head shop being laced with DMT ?
Even salvia would be a bit far fetched.
Blends contain chemicals that were, at the time of production, legal.
Sometimes the law changes and head shops end up with illegal compounds, but not dmt.

Why would anyone do it ?
Can you imagine somebody sitting ontop of tons of DMT and not being able to sell it ?
Why would a company that pays taxes and is traceable sell a chemical thats illegal pretty much everywhere ?

Synth noids can be visual. OP has little experience, therefor no tolerance.
Pure and simple. He / she may've even been on the edge of a seizure.
But i'd bet my life savings on them not having acquired DMT at a headshop be it online or an actual shop shop
 
Maybe it was a near-death experience that caused a a relase of natural DMT in OP's brain... It could all be possible.
If it was DMT it should have been more enjoyable. I have never vomited of vaped DMT before.
OP, be careful next time.
 
I have a low tolerance level, but my friend has a much higher tolerance and experienced nearly the same thing.
The shop has been closed down since then...so they may have been doing dodgy things with their product.
I've just never heard of synthetics doing this to people.
That being said, I'm no expert....
 
enigmatiq said:
Maybe it was a near-death experience that caused a a relase of natural DMT in OP's brain... It could all be possible.
If it was DMT it should have been more enjoyable. I have never vomited of vaped DMT before.
OP, be careful next time.
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I doubt it was a near death experience.
Like I said, I only had two rips.
And that was from the one cone.
Small rips like that wouldn't cause me to die haha.

But yes, I will be careful.
However, there won't be a next time.
I don't want to touch synthetics ever again haha.
 
NB, how long did the experince last? And without explicitly posting details in a way that is against our rules, could you describe what the product promises or how the package is themed, etc?

ID threads are not allowed on this forum, the reason this is not being closed right now is that the thread is not set up in the OP to have the distinct goal to try and find out what is in it.... but it is obvious from the reactions in this thread that people are inclined to try and find out what kind of drug someone took to produce a reported experience. Without that info the anecdote is kind of suspended in unclear context.

Maybe things like what the product promises in terms of effects or results, the kind of words used (for example I rarely hear the term 'cerebral high' outside of a cannabinoid context), the expectations that gave you.... it could perhaps put things a tiny bit into perspective for people reading this - it might sounds or feel more familiar..?

I take it even the "synthetic" in the title is an assumption? And again in this last post #16 do you mean by "synthetics" synthetic cannabinoids, novel research chemicals, or synthetic drugs in general? If it is the latter, there is no such division to be made between natural and synthetic drugs.

What was the appearance like? Like a random herb used as a carrier to apply a drug on? Is salvia out of the question and if so, why? I'd like to emphasize this is not about trying to find the exact drug you must have taken because I repeat we do not ID like that here. (For that same reason: I don't want to see people simply posting what they bet it is, or must have been - you have been warned)
But it is fair to acknowledge what general categories of drugs or compounds are possible or realistic to consider as options. I think I agree with soaring peace2 's post in the sense that I believe that in more than 99% of cases where people with very limited knowledge and/or experience with drugs suspect an unidentified product to be laced with something, that is based on the suspected drug's reputation and hardly if at all based on how likely it is to come across that actual drug in the way they did.
But best I can say now is that yes it does sound like that short-acting usually-smoked breakthrough-level trip that includes salvia, DMT and its closest analogues and relatives and I am a bit skeptical about any cannabinoid being able to function as a relatively short breakthrough trip before quickly coming down afterwards (not sure if you come down quickly when the trip ends or if you feel stoned for another hour, and if you feel stoned, what that is sort of like..)
 
NyssaBlue said:
Hey all.
I had so much in the way of visuals that I just can't explain what I saw.
It was so intense and so bizarre that I can't properly put it into words.
My friend had it too but didn't react badly to it.
He went off into space and saw all sorts of stars and planets.
No entity to speak of.
and the other guy I was with also had a bad experience and had an entity in his trip.
He also vomited.
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Come on this along with the buzzing screams DMT, I've also seen people puke on DMT as well. IMO this is an easy one, definately no synthetic cannabinoid lol.
 
Think about it :)
The people making these blends are in it to make money.
I'm not sure how cheap synth noids are wholesale but an enduser buying off your bog standard RC site can get them for next to nothing if they buy large amounts.

If your trying to make a bit of cash are you going to use
A - cheap, legal crap from china and not worry about customs and police and people sending thier stuff off to get tested

or

B - use one of the most sought after, expensive and illegal psychs known to man

Where is the business logic here ?
Why do it ?
One sample to a testing site and they're in a heap of trouble, the police and all sorts of other govt agencies test these things.
Why risk it ?
These blends are made by the tonnes and spread far and wide, imagine how much DMT you would need to do it


I will agree that its impossible to say for sure that its a noid ( but i've had visual experiences from just a few tokes on a joint of the stuff and i'm experienced with weed - so i find it believable ) but its extremely unlikely to be DMT

If they've made a new compound that produces DMT like effects then I hope the knowledge gets out so we can all have a go with out buying their shiney little packets of overpriced, branded crap
 
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