I personally try to shy away from the concept of using drugs to enhance my well being. Ideally, I would like to think that I can make social and intimate connections without using empathogens/depressives/stimulants/etc. I would also like to think that I can maintain a relatively sharp intellect and productivity level without having to depend on my vices.
In no way do I mean to accuse you of using drugs for the wrong reasons or to imply that there is a superior philosophy. I just personally value substances based on how well they can a) stimulate the creative thought process, b)assist me with introspection, and c)provide me with a well rounded experience intellectually, spiritually, and emotionally. Given this criteria, psychedelics seem to tick every box.
If I were to develop an intimate relationship with a significant female at some point in the near future, I could see the validity in using empathogens at least once or twice, but besides that I don't go out of my way to go drinking at bars and chat it up with strangers, or other circumstances along those lines. I just have more of an introverted personality I guess.
That is a very valid point and a very good policy when it comes to drug use. I say more power to you if you're able to do that, and even more power to you if you're able to but still don't think less of people for using different substances for other reasons. Now psychedelics are my favorite class for the reasons that you stated above: They stimulate thought processes, provide a rounded experience, and my personal favorite aspect, they are powerful tools for introspection. I personally like a little bit of everything and I see nothing wrong with using drugs for reasons other than Spiritual or Mental enhancement. Who is to say that using Cocaine as a social enhancer is a less valid use of a drug than using Shrooms for introspection? Some people can't stand psychedelics, where would that leave them? Like I said, I respect your view point and I really appreciate the fact that you don't seem to look down on others who do things differently.
I personally don't see a problem with ingesting a substance to perform better, enhance thought processes, or to just have fun as long as it doesn't interfere with your normal life. Every substance has it's place in this world. Some people might find a use for something that you absolutely despise, but that doesn't mean that they don't have a reason to do it or that they shouldn't. I like a bit of everything myself and I have a "Gotta' Catch Em All" mindset. I want to experience as much as I can, altered states of mind absolutely fascinate me.
Dissociatives are sort of in a grey area for me when it comes to this topic. They can be extremely powerful, thought provoking and life changing, but they can also very easily just be used purely for recreation and they can be very psychologically addictive for many people including myself. Many times I have found myself using them for recreation but instead having an extremely introspective experience, often times in the form of a swift kick to the ass. Would you consider using dissociatives? Where is the line drawn?
Empathogens can be very profound but are also very easily purely recreation. I always get heated when people talk about MDMA solely as a feel good drug, a party drug and nothing more. Sure it feels good, it feels FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC, but they way it allows you to think about things can be a very useful tool. You maintain a level of mental clarity and you're able to think about yourself, your life, and the future with an optimistic mindset, completely uninhibited and without fear. This can be an extremely useful tool for a lot of people. Look at what it has done for people with PTSD! I'm sure that if you asked a veteran who had PTSD treated with MDMA what the sperior drug is, MDMA or LSD, they will absolutely say MDMA, how could they not? I have found the most use for it in my relationship. You are able to be open and honest about things that you may otherwise be uncomfortable talking about, and the empathy that it causes allows you to get a feel for how both parties are feeling and where they come from. Indeed a powerful tool. Like anything else you only gain what you put into it. If you just take a bunch of thizzles and go dance your ass off for 8 hours straight you probably wont gain much. If you dose in an intimate environment with a lover and/or a couple of close friends you will probably have a wonderful experience and strengthened connections.
Now we get to stimulants. Is there anything wrong with taking an Adderall to give you the motivation and energy to do housework that you might otherwise not have? What about in a situation similar to empathogens where you need to talk about something that is otherwise uncomfortable? I have used amphetamines for that reason with success. What if you just take a hit of Meth just because it feels good? Is there anything wrong with that if you are legitimately able to keep it under control and don't start using too often? I don't see anything wrong with it. I use stimulants fairly often for varying reasons: Cleaning the house, studying, socializing, connecting with my girlfriend, and sometimes just for fun or out of boredom. Sometimes I use them a little more than I am comfortable with, but they still do not affect my everyday life, and until they do than I don't think that is a problem.
Alcohol I use moderately. I drink once every 1-2 weeks, but I very rarely go past 5 drinks or so and I take my sweet time. I usually get a drink or 2 in me and maintain that level through the course of the night. I absolutely hate the feeling of being too drunk, and the line between pleasantly drunk and way too drunk can be very thin (especially if you're drunk). I typically don't go out and use substances to meet other people either. I understand why you wouldn't go out to have drunk talk with some strangers, I don't really like that either. The company I keep when I do drugs depends entirely on the experience that I am looking for. I personally prefer doing psychedelics and dissociatives by myself than with other people (My GF included). I find that having other people around stops me from getting into introspection. Alcohol on the other hand I never use by myself, and rarely if it's just my girlfriend and I. The one quality I have use for with Alcohol is as a social lubricant and I don't use it otherwise. Then you have things like cannabis that I use everyday no matter who I'm with.
I don't really know where I was going with that
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My GF and I went into the city today to do some shopping and enjoy ourselves and I took some 4-FA and 2-FMA. We had a wonderful time, nothing wrong with that! Anyways, I apologize if I went too far off track and if I talk a bit too much. I also know that at some points it sounds like I'm kind of argumentative or like I misinterpreted what you said, that's not the case, that's just how I discuss
