Script for Dilaudid/hydromorphone for overseas (USA–>Europe)

[VictorZ06]

I would phone up the Greek embassy or Consulate, I'm not being rude to anybody on here but with something as important as this I would find out what official policy is, not go by what someone on here says, even if they do have good links. That is HR.

I didn't know countries accepted foreign prescriptions.

Even so I would perhaps even try to speaking to a Greek Dr, I would be checking the finest detail if I was moving to a new country!

Hope you get sorted?

How long until you go.

Keep in mind that with H... nobody said you had to inject it. Taking it intranasally (just mix it into an afrin nose spray bottle) is non-obvious and just as effective as dilaudid. Sucks that you might have to go that route but if you are at that far of a loss that is all I can say

See...I know nothing about H or making a spray bottle. I'm in the dark and I want to avoid that at all costs. I was there over the summer, and I had to get my meds shipped to me from the US. I asked a doctor there and he said that it is not available no matter what kind of doctor I go to. They simply don't have it. I was in so much pain one day, I went to the ER and they gave me a shot of morphine via IM. I didn't notice any difference and I was in so much pain and started to go through withdrawal until my meds arrived. Fuckn nightmare. I'm at a loss...going to talk to my doc here and see if he will work with me on this....




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[wcote]

Anyone suggesting heroin is fucking out of line. What awful HR

To tell someone to think of doing heroin as there could be an issue with their pain meds is seriously stupid. To go from having a prescription of Diluadid to taking heroin is beyond risky.

To OP completely ignore this advice it is some of the worst advice I have seen on this website. Nobody should every advise someone to try heroin, no matter what the reason. Please OP it doesn't matter if its intranasaly. Ignore.

To go to a foreign country and to start using heroin. That's going to end well. FFS

Ask anyone in EADD if this is good advice and you will get a resounding no.

 

[VictorZ06]

Anyone suggesting heroin is fucking out of line. What awful HR

To tell someone to think of doing heroin as there could be an issue with their pain meds is seriously stupid. To go from having a prescription of Diluadid to taking heroin is beyond risky.

To OP completely ignore this advice it is some of the worst advice I have seen on this website. Nobody should every advise someone to try heroin, no matter what the reason. Please OP it doesn't matter if its intranasaly. Ignore.

To go to a foreign country and to start using heroin. That's going to end well. FFS

Ask anyone in EADD if this is good advice and you will get a resounding no.

I appreciate the advise, and no...I could never bring myself to using H. I've used a lot of other rec drugs...but never H. I just wish I knew how to get larger amounts of my prescription, or maybe some Morphine Sulfate (Kadian). If I can get it here in the states, I can bring it with me when I travel abroad. There are lots of websites that claim to offer these compounds, as expensive as they are....I don't know if they can be trusted.

This whole situation is completely fucked up....I'm not looking for drugs so I can sit on my couch all day and play video games, I need my meds so I can function normally, go to work, and not live in horrific pain all day. It's not fair, it's not right, and it's in no way ethical. Docs who don't give patients what they NEED must be violating the Hippocratic Oath they took in one way, shape, or form. This isn't right. If I knew where to get my meds, I would shut up, order them, and continue living my life. THIS SUCKS!




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[VictorZ06]

You are another victim of the war on drugs friend.

I'll fight...just tell me how. My wife and I are really concerned about this and we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. What if I move out there only to find out that I'm back to chronic pain and can't work? I'm fucked! If I stay here, I need to try and find another line of work/different career. All because I can't get my medicine? Total bullshit...




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[VictorZ06]

Thx ghost....much appreciated. Are these on line pharmacies legit? Anyone know? Thanks.



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[VictorZ06]

Can you get Methadone where you're headed. My dad swears by it and he is a long time chronic pain sufferer.

I am not sure. I'm sure they must have clinics for recovering H users....but I can't be sure. I really don't want to mess with that shit either. I have tried a dozen types of pain meds, and Dilaudid is the only kind that didn't give me nasty side effects or make me sick. I was able to tolerate Kadian (Morphine Sulphate) via IV (micron filter and all) and that worked well for me. I'm just going to talk to my doc next week and see if he will be willing to write me scripts and have a friend or relative pick it up and send it to me. I can't think of what else to do...



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[steewith2ees]

Can you get Methadone where you're headed. My dad swears by it and he is a long time chronic pain sufferer.

I think you would be lucky. I spend a fair amount of time in Crete and from what I can gather the greeks are extremely intolerant of opiates in general as far as I am aware even low strength codeine products that would be available otc here in the uk are prohibited

 

[spiritsage]

You better reconsider your move...Dilaudid is subject to Federal statutes, no way you can get more than a 30 day supply, no refills except via a new hard copy scrip. That's the law....

 

[VictorZ06]

You better reconsider your move...Dilaudid is subject to Federal statutes, no way you can get more than a 30 day supply, no refills except via a new hard copy scrip. That's the law....

I'm aware. I'm just curious if I can have my doc write a script every month, and have a family member send it to me every 30 days. I used to have to pick up sched II medication for my mother, went to her doc, got her script, had it filled, and brought it to her. Dono....



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[VictorZ06]

Thank you all so much for your input. I really appreciate it. Right now, my only option for work is if I move to Greece, where I do have lots of friends and families....some even have PHARMACIES! And I went to pain management doctors there, spine specialists, etc. and the strongest thing they can give me is tramadol. And to be honest, it doesn't do a damn thing....and I was taking 600mg at a time. NOTHING. I went there on vacation, and my vacation turned into a nightmare. I thought I would be able to find something that would help me.....but nothing. And I went through some CRAZY withdrawals. It came to the point where I had my wife take me to the ER...and that was no joy ride. My meds did not come in the mail in time, they arrived a week late. Told the doc the situation, and he gave me one cc of morphine via IM in my ass. For 10 minutes I felt a little relief and I stopped shaking, the electric feeling in my legs went away. But by the time I signed out of the ER, I was back in the same fuckn condition as when I first arrived. I tried knocking myself out with xanax 10-12mg and some midazolam (via IV), but I was still awake and in soooo much pain. I'm hurting now just thinking about it. I ALMOST told my wife to drive me to the airport so I can go fly and pick up a script in Holland from a doctor I have there. Instead, I took another 8mg of clonazapam...along with all 5 amps of midazolam, and I was finally able to get some sleep. First 3 days were BAD!! Next 5 were horrible...but slightly better. I never want to go through this again. I almost asked my cousin to go to the ghetto and find me some heroin. That's how desperate I was for relief of the pain in my back and the electric like feeling in my legs 24/7. As soon as my meds came, I swallowed 16mg...and I was waiting and waiting for them to kick in. It was coming on too slow....so, I ran to the pharmacy, picked up a wheel filter, crushed up another 16mg, added 2cc of water to a spoon, filtered, and banged it via IV with a 25g pin. I felt like such a junkie....but when it hit me right away, it was as if I had entered heaven on a cozy couch. I often have slip and falls, and when I hurt myself, I use the same method for INSTANT relief. I refuse to do the surgery....my primary even told me not to. The spine docs want to cut me open without even looking at my MRIs....they just want a pay check. Ugh....sorry for the rant. But with my conditions, I don't think I could live there without my meds. I couldn't go one week....how can I go and live there? I'm so mad about this, it drives me nuts. Aside from having meds shipped from the US to Greece, I thought about taking a trip to Holland every other month (3.5hr flight) to see my doc there and get a script. It will cost me 200eu just for the meds, plus the flight....but I'm left with very little options. I'm now trying to see if I can find work here in the US so I don't have to make a move and put my life and health through hell because of this bullshit laws they have there. It's not fair!!!

 

[VictorZ06]

Holy crap, that is some straight up bullshit. Really. Tramadol is a joke, and you can seize up on it if you take too much. Trust me, I have. It's bad shit. Is Holland the closet/only place that you could get your medicine? Shouldn't it be a freaking human right if you have a medical history backed up by a quality MD? No questions asked? God, that's really infuriating. I'm very sorry for your predicament. I wasn't trying to flaunt things in our neck of the woods, I just assumed with my own ignorance, they'd have similar attitudes. Is all of Greece like this? Are there any other places in the Mediterranean area you could work? I know you said family/connections are in Greece, but you're putting a lot at risk, especially if your considering doing a dope run. That's just gonna destroy everything you've built up fast, though I sympathize with your pain and anger. Do you think you'll stay stateside, consider other places, or take a chance on Greece? It's a lot to deal with. I wish I could help more. Apologies for my preconceptions about country regulations. I hope you find the right decision or at least the best decision for you and your well being. Good luck, and stay strong.

Thanks for your post. I got out of hand in my last post, forgive me. Yes...any more than 400mg of Tramadol can give you problems, I rolled the dice and it didn't do anything for me. Greece really is that bad when it comes to these types of meds, forgive my fellow Greek brothers....but this shit is straight up 3rd world primitive!! "The place where democracy was created"....my ass.

I'm going to my MD tomorrow and I'm going to explain to him my situation, and see how far he is willing to help me. My only problem is that even if he does help me, if there is a problem with the mail, something gets lost, seized, etc...I'm in a shit load of trouble. So I'm thinking, if that happens, hop on a flight to Holland and go to my MD there. It's just not very cost efficient. I have to pay for my ticket, hotel, consult, meds, taxi to and from the airport. So, I'm looking at 600euros to pick up a 2 month supply.

I can get 2 months because there they don't have Dilaudid, they have Pallidone....and it comes in larger doses of 16, 24, & 32mg caps. Dosing it is a bitch, but it's better than nothing. Since I really can't break up a 32mg cap into my required 8mg dose orally, I have to filter the stuff and use it via IV. Yes, the effect works very well....but I don't like having to pin my arms via IV 3X a day. So whatever caps I get, I add bac water and put it in a sterile vial and draw what I need from there. So I'm forced to travel to another country, spend 600+ euros, and be forced to take my meds via IV because the doc can't give me more than a one month dose, he just doubles or triples the dose of the caps for me. All because the Greeks have their heads in their ass. I could probably go to Germany or Switzerland and find a doc, but since I have a doc in Holland and I'm on a plane, what's another hour? Besides, I can relax for a bit in Amsterdam at the coffee shops for a day or two. Having to make life decisions based on where you can get your medicine is morally and ethically wrong...I'm not a junkie looking for a buzz, I need these meds to function and live like a normal human being. I'm even toying with the notion to see if my wife can get a script, this way I have back ups....but I don't want to break the law or put my MD in a tough spot. I'm seriously going flippin crazy over this, I'm pulling hair out of my head. MADNESS!!!!

 

[steewith2ees]

and the meds are cheap. DHC, for example, is about 18 EU and various forms of codeine range from 5-15 EU depending on the amount you purchase

Ez Frank, i would pay 18 euros for dhc if i had the convinience of getting them otc but that seems expensive for the actual trade price of a generic medicine although i havnt managed to get opiates on the continent in years i have brought various benzodiazpines from pharmacies in greece and spain and the most i ever paid was 1.75 euros for 28 2mg rivotril clonazepam tablets. cheapest was spanish diazepam - 0.3 euros for 30 x 5mg

 

[VictorZ06]

Thank you all once again for the imput. Frank...that link it broken, but thanks for taking the time to help me. The trips I would have to take to and from Holland are going to hurt my wallet big time. Sometimes I can find deals to go round trip for 100 euros in the winter. I'm curious....if I buy meds when I am abroad, if I give the bill to my insurance, they will pay me back when I return. If I buy insurance in Greece, I wonder if they will pay me back the 200 euros that I will have to pay for the meds.

To be honest, I'm so tired having to worry about this. I'm going to seek legal council here in the states, and work on getting a script for my wife so I have back ups. I'm on 8mg of xanax a day, for 16 years now....and I have like a two month reserve. I have no problem getting benzos out in Greece. But with my pain meds, I don't have a single back up...and it scares the shit out of me. I tried to find places on line to order the stuff, but I have not had any luck and it's hard to tell who is legit, and who is a scam. After I talk to my doc, I'm going to go to my lawyer and see if she can help me or find someone that can help me. This is really a sad sad sad situation that I'm in. I'm really getting very depressed about this situation....and I'm worried about my family and being able to continue to provide for them. Scared shitless guys...

Oh, and as for what else works....I found that morphine sulphate works (Kadian), 60mg 2X a day. I think it's the same as OS Contin? And pardon my ignorance, but what do you guys mean when you say "DHC"....what is it? Thank you...I really appreciate you guys helping me.





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[brimz]

Thank you all once again for the imput. Frank...that link it broken, but thanks for taking the time to help me. The trips I would have to take to and from Holland are going to hurt my wallet big time. Sometimes I can find deals to go round trip for 100 euros in the winter. I'm curious....if I buy meds when I am abroad, if I give the bill to my insurance, they will pay me back when I return. If I buy insurance in Greece, I wonder if they will pay me back the 200 euros that I will have to pay for the meds.

To be honest, I'm so tired having to worry about this. I'm going to seek legal council here in the states, and work on getting a script for my wife so I have back ups. I'm on 8mg of xanax a day, for 16 years now....and I have like a two month reserve. I have no problem getting benzos out in Greece. But with my pain meds, I don't have a single back up...and it scares the shit out of me. I tried to find places on line to order the stuff, but I have not had any luck and it's hard to tell who is legit, and who is a scam. After I talk to my doc, I'm going to go to my lawyer and see if she can help me or find someone that can help me. This is really a sad sad sad situation that I'm in. I'm really getting very depressed about this situation....and I'm worried about my family and being able to continue to provide for them. Scared shitless guys...

Oh, and as for what else works....I found that morphine sulphate works (Kadian), 60mg 2X a day. I think it's the same as OS Contin? And pardon my ignorance, but what do you guys mean when you say "DHC"....what is it? Thank you...I really appreciate you guys helping me.





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HI

I am also on LOng Term Opiates decades . For my Habit & Severe Pain .

Did ya say you are concerned as you have no back up ?

My GP is amazing when i was actually in residence in a dif. European Country he released schedule 1 CD Narcotics for me .

Back up omg i would like to see his reaction .

Your Drugs your responsibility you wanted to go to ......... Tough shit . You know the rules .

See i have never lost my OPiates abroad as they are the most important thing /Passport =.

If i did though sure as shit i would have a score of Heroin all ready . Like go in advance n find a spot Greece is open air atm n cheap , you may have to get through 8 pricks , cons etc to find 1 real user. nature of Addicts though n they are skint as fuk atm .

But with $40 maybe $10 a connect can be bought of a user easy i rekon ? I have paid no more than £10 usually till i found out it is 5 a item in most of Europe.

comparing our 2 health systems is not really possible is it ?

Get insurance as well . WE can get free health care in EEC Ehic covers it .

DhC is here comes in ir 30s & 40mg & TR up to 120g

If 2x 60 mst does ya you are golden that is a relative minor your OCs are unbreakable yeah ? So are these but oxy is 3x teh strength of Morphine .

I have never had Hydromorph n am nearly done all of opiates they have a kinda romance to em what with Dilaudid n old Wbs in THe Film Drug Store Cowboy .

My pain relief is OXy instants like these

. I wouldn't be surprised if a Greek Quack was willing to make $ off a US business man like you .

I had a source there for a while all benzos n codeine DHC or DF118 were on offer . They never fuked me on a order but i heard they did around the time it went tits up in Govt.


Good luck, may the god of Opium shine bright

 

[steewith2ees]

Ez Frank, sorry i wasnt trying to pick holes in your post or anything dude your replies have been much more relevant and helpful to the OP than mine - it was just a pointless observation i made i wasnt talking about black market prices I was talikng about legitimate medicines I have brought from continental pharmacies with a prescription.

btw victor dhc is dihydrocodiene

 

[VictorZ06]

Thank you for the info guys. Went to my doc today to get my script, he said the best thing he can do for me is write the script and give it to a family member of mine to send it to me. I asked if he could adjust the frequency of the prescription....and he said no. I was hoping to get 120 tabs a month instead of 90. If I go, I won't be going for a few months...I told him a little about my situation and he was sorry that he couldn't help me further. Next month when I go back for my next script, I'm going to ask if he can write something in my wife's name. She kept her maiden name and she can go to another pharmacy....but I don't think he will do it. I'm still going to try and seek some legal council for this...not sure how far that will get me, but I'm exploring all options. And as bad as it sounds, I really did think about taking the H path for a while....I'm not sure if everyone here can understand what someone goes through when dealing with extreme chronic pain, but if the doc told me to drink a bottle of bleach and that would make me feel better, I'd toy with the notion. I know some H users here in the US that are lawyers, business men, etc...and they have their habit all under control. Anyway....thanks for the help everyone. Wish me luck.



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[Droppersneck]

You would think a recklessly liberal country like Greece would hand out schedule IIs like they were trayvon flavored skittles? Man I read your post I just do not know if you will be able to make it without some type of powerful opiate. Have you tried lyrica with a weak opiate and benzo?

 

[VictorZ06]

You would think a recklessly liberal country like Greece would hand out schedule IIs like they were trayvon flavored skittles? Man I read your post I just do not know if you will be able to make it without some type of powerful opiate. Have you tried lyrica with a weak opiate and benzo?

Been there, done that. I was on 120mg of morphine sulphate (Kadian) and I stopped that and increased my dilaudid dose. Started on 12mg ED, and bumped it up to 24mg ED. Kinda wish I had both.




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[lifesaver2013]

Ive chatted to a guy on here before (I had a different user name then) who was from Greece and was on fentanyl patches so narcotics may be available in some form

 

[discotits]

I've skipped over most of this thread, but it seems you'd rather take pills and get high for the rest of your life, rather than having an operation that will resolve the issue hence stop the need for taking tablets?

I think you're missing the bigger picture. Unless the bigger picture is to take tablets and get high.. "back pain"