Opioids Tramadol / Ultracet. What can it do, can it do anything?

[Not Again]

I hear they can help wd's , then I hear they are crap and they don't help.

I hear people getting high from them and then other people saying you can't.

What's the deal?

Will these help with WD's? Are they an opiate? If you use them after your last dose of opiates will it keep you addicted to them.

And the most important question. Would they cause precipatated wd's?

 

[InHerOwnWrite]

They may help withdrawal from strong opiates, because they are a type of opioid themselves. Google will give you more information. They will not cause precipitated wd. At high doses they can cause seizures, i believe this can happen at doses of 300mg or more. And since they are opioids, you will still be dependent if you use them regularly.
Seriously though, do a search man. This info is ridiculously easy to find.

 

[Tommyboy]

It depends on your habit. If you have a really high tolerance they won't really do jack, unless you are on like day 3 or 4 of withdrawals and take a high dose (keep under 400mg as said above it can cause seizures above that). If you have a small habit they should help. I wouldn't expect any kind of high unless like 30mg of oxycodone still gets you high.

 

[Not Again]

They may help withdrawal from strong opiates, because they are a type of opioid themselves. Google will give you more information. They will not cause precipitated wd. At high doses they can cause seizures, i believe this can happen at doses of 300mg or more. And since they are opioids, you will still be dependent if you use them regularly.
Seriously though, do a search man. This info is ridiculously easy to find.

If I wanted googles answers I would ask google.

If it troubles you too much please do not reply to my threads, especially if you say google . Telling me to ask google is like saying do not ask this here.Or you are implying I am stupid because I didn't search it my self.

You can go into every thread in this forum and say, ask google. So then what is the purpose of this forum?

 

[InHerOwnWrite]

Geez, you didn't even say thank you. I did answer your questions.

 

[Amberthefrog]

What Tommyboy said.

I will add that they act as a serotonin releaser and a noradrenaline reuptake inhibtitor (amongst other mechanisms), the former of these (I assume) does provide something of a 'buzz' in addition to what one ould expect from an opiate.

I've tried to use them many times for morphine withdrawl. The first few times they worked brillantly, removing all symptoms. More recently they've done bugger all due to tolerance.

TLDR; Worth a shot (not literally a shot) a <400mg

 

[divarastamom]

i've been an opiate addict for over 20 years/using off & on & had tramadol/ultracet more than a few times...when i was on 3-80 oxys a day, the tramadol did nothing more than making my rls go away and letting me sleep for more than 15 minutes at a time...which, at the time with the WD being so bad i really appreciated..i mean really!!! ...now i am down to 6-10 mg vics a day & yes, i still run out of my rx at half of the time i should...but, i have a script for 37.5 mg tramadol & i have found that when i take 2-3 of them 2-3 times a day i have zero WD & feel almost exactly as if i am on the vics....the only bad thing about it is that when the tramadol runs out the WD/pain comes back...but, i think it's WD from the tramadol bc it would be way past the WD for the vics...i wouldn't buy these pills to get a buzz or fucked up...BUT, as an opiate addict that frequently runs out of your script they are a fucking jah-god send to have around.

p.s. i really wanted to write something positive about tramadol in this forum bc several years ago when i had a script for them from a dentist i googled it & everything said they were shit so i just threw them out...BUT, if you are addicted to an opiate in a low dose mg form, they really do help when your shit is gone....or even if you are doing 3 80s or opana..they help a lot with the rls & insomnia...IMO

 

[188thStreet]

Tramadols aren't bad. Some people respond better than other ie. some people like them and some people hate them. I probably like them more than oral morphine, but then again I prefer hydrocodone orally to morphine orally. Only bad thing is it's not really safe to take more than 6 or 7 50mg pills or you risk having a seizure.

 

[Anoymator]

What Tommyboy said.

I will add that they act as a serotonin releaser and a noradrenaline reuptake inhibtitor (amongst other mechanisms), the former of these (I assume) does provide something of a 'buzz' in addition to what one ould expect from an opiate.

I've tried to use them many times for morphine withdrawl. The first few times they worked brillantly, removing all symptoms. More recently they've done bugger all due to tolerance.

TLDR; Worth a shot (not literally a shot) a <400mg

This.

However, have some anti-seizure benzo at hand when using tramadol for opiate withdrawals because you will need a high dose of tramadol to help the WD and at such doses you're risking a nasty tonic-clonic seizure. The good thing is that tramadol "can" be used with low doses of benzos enough to help with preventing a seizure. I have taken up to 700mgs with 2mgs of clonazepam and that shit made me nod out of my world. However at that dose I did find myself breathing much slower and I was going in and out of a sleeping mode which can be scary as you wake up from the nod feeling like you're running out of air.

400mgs plus 1mgs "should" be OK. It is for me and I am not hooked on benzos so I don't have a big tolerance yet. However, please be careful and only take my post as what has worked for me. You never know with tramadol as it is one of the nastiest drugs you will find (it affects so many neurotransmitters). It goes without saying that you should not get hooked on tramadol as the WD "can be" considerably worse than morphine. And I am not sure if it will help with getting you out of the morphine WD as I don't know if the WD will pass automatically to tramadol (i.e. you stop taking the tramadol after a week and you get the WD again).

Cheers.

 

[fizzymk]

I started out on tramadol/Ultram, I loved them at first, 2-50mg pills would make me feel great for half the day, but tolerance builds up VERY fast with this drug too, thus you get into the danger of seizures once you start taking too many, Within a week of getting my script, my tolerance would shoot up to me having to take around 8-10 pills for the same effect 2-4 used to have.

I went thru 3 seizures on this drug too. I took some, didnt feel anything, so waited 15-20 min, still didnt feel anything, so I would take 2-3 more, wait again, take more, etc, until I woke up, I was laying on the ground with my head bleeding, and my GF standing over me, trying to wake me up, she said my eyes rolled back in my head and when she asked me basic questions, her name, what city we live in, etc, I did not know the answers, this scared me, cuz I knew I should know the answers. about 3 hours after waking up though, i was back to feeling normal and had my memory back.

I wont take this drug anymore though, and really at the point Im at, it wouldnt do much anyway, once you make it to H, nothing else will do...EVER.

 

[teological]

Bro, as a true opiate lover and user take my advice. STAY the fuck AWAY.

If you have a very low tolerance, like say Codeine works for you, then you may find that it may get you high. But it is not a pure morphine/opiate type high. It has this dirty serotonin type feel to it that I personally HATE. It also has a seizure threshold of 200mgs. I am not sure where the above posters are getting their information on 300 - 400mg thresholds, but I strictly remember researching this drug thoroughly a few years back, and it was a 200mg max dose, then you are basically in seizure territory.

It may help ease WD syndrome and it may help kill pain, but as a true opiate, like clean rushing morphine euphoria, you won't get it.

 

[Not Again]

I've seen in several different places what ^^^^^ is saying.

It sucks and stay away. It's the worst opiate ( if you can call it that) ever.

I was doing mega research because I was wondering if I could use it for wd's . Today is day 1 jumped from sub.

Everywhere was negative on this drug. I saw no positive anything about. I was a good hour in to searching on it.

 

[teological]

It should help with opiate withdrawal, though I am not sure at what dose in relation to your sub tolerance levels...

 

[Not Again]

It should help with opiate withdrawal, though I am not sure at what dose in relation to your sub tolerance levels...

But no good for detoxing. It would draw out the WD's right? If you're quitting an opiate how could another opiate, even a poor one let you detox?

 

[Not Again]

If I wanted googles answers I would ask google.

If it troubles you too much please do not reply to my threads, especially if you say google . Telling me to ask google is like saying do not ask this here.Or you are implying I am stupid because I didn't search it my self.

You can go into every thread in this forum and say, ask google. So then what is the purpose of this forum?

Whoa, I don't even remember that post. Apologies for being an arse. Must a been a bad day.

 

[I cup]

I use to have a good website for tram. ( it's gone now .... ) , but used it for about 2 yrs. , and it kept me off other opies very well , hadn't heard of the seizure issues , but was eventually at 3x50mg. Every 4 hrs or so , 5-600mg/ day - every day (oops??!)
Was very ,very speedy to me , but towards the end especially, it really started messing with my emotions , getting depressed ect.
Depending how they effect you personally , I would think they could work well as a weening tool - just don't turn them into a replacement as over time and growing tolerance/ dose , they will screw with your head more than true opies

 

[Rybee]

For what it's worth, Tramadol is probably one of my favourite highs, mixed with a benzodiazepine at ~400mg always gave me a lovely and thoroughly enjoyable high.