How many years have you been using Kratom for Kenny? I've never had any really noticeable withdrawal effects (beyond very slight mental flatness/fatigue for a few days) from Kratom despite using it fairly heavily for lengthy periods of time so it would be good to know at what stage things started getting bad for you.
Mind you I used ODT daily for months at a time (I think one stretch was over 6 months) and only ever had very mild withdrawal symptoms considering the amounts I'd been using so maybe I'm just a bit weird.... (although I'm not going to tempt fate...)
Well I first tried Kratom in the spring of 2007, I loved it right away but initially I wasn't using daily, just a few times per week before lectures. I loved how it erased my social anxiety, made the day go by smooth and made feel warm and nice.
However within a few weeks I started doing it every day, at first it was a sunset drug for me, as I'd just stopped smoking weed daily, I used to come home from uni, make a tea and start chewing my kratom instead of having a few spliffs. Then I started doing it first thing in the morning.
I used daily for about a year before my first break and didn't experience any noticeable WDs, maybe just some mood swings and runny eyes but that was it, back then I didn't even connect it to the fact I'd just stopped the kratom, it was very very minor, the break was really short though and I was back on daily use again soon.
Basically I used daily from 2007 until the 8th of July this summer, with two six month breaks due to working in countries where I couldn't get deliveries(Aus and Lebanon). The first time I remember experiencing some noticeable WD symptoms was in November 2010, felt like having the flu, sneezing, yawning, red itchy eyes, cold, muscular pain. Thing is though the symptoms weren't that harsh, they were still fairly mild as I still managed to drag my ass to work for the whole week while waiting for my next order to arrive. It was no worse than having a seasonal flu.
The first major WD that impaired me was in the Spring of 2011, I was living in New York at the time and the thing that fucked me over was how incredibly cheaper kratom was in the US compared to ordering from the UK, I was doing insane amounts, I also invested in some isolates which I was taking on top of the powdered leaf. The time there was a delay with my post and it was the most intense pain I ever felt.
That was the first proper serious WD, I had to take a whole week from work, couldn't sleep for the first three days, was sweating like an animal, my legs were kicking out of control, I felt pain deep in my bones and muscles, my pupils were huge as if I was on shrooms, throwing up, couldn't eat, had runny shits, eyes burning, yawning every two second and all the rest.
It was seriously fucking horrible, I feel the isolates were to blame though as before doing them I'd taken the leaf for years and only suffered minor WDs, which were bearable and didn't impact my life. Anyway since then it's been a misery every time I took a break(usually unwanted due to delays at the post office). Also in the US I first tried proper opiates, did oxy for about three months and that fucked my body chemistry too.
It's in the US that my kratom use escalated, I woul wake up at like 5 am every morning, drenched in sweat, had to chew a few teaspoons just to be able to go back to bed until it was time to get up to go to work, I used to walk back to my flat on lunch breaks to chew more kratom as otherwise I would start tearing, yawning and sweating at the office already in mid-afternoon.
Since then up until three months ago I literally lived my life around kratom, spent most of my money on it, had to plan my day according to how much time autonomy I have, as in coming home early from nights out as soon as I'd start to yawn and my eyes tearing, knowing that within the hour I would be in a state too bad to be social. Keep a jar of kratom at the office and tell the coworkers it's green tea. Not go on weekends to the sea or mountains if it was with people I could not do the kratom in front of, as I couldn't spend the night out without any.
The thing that made it possible for me to still travel and move around is discovering loperamide(imodium), I have bottles of those pills bought online(200 pills per bottle), I also made an excel tapering sheet which I used to come off kratom, taking 50 tablets the first day and reducing by five each day.