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Tramadol dose..moderate opiate tolerance?

Siccness909

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I got some tramadol from my doc, my tolerance to opiates is basically I can get high off 20-25mgs vicodin. Now please NO NEED for bashing tramadol I understand its nowhere near good opaites but what would be a decent dose to get a good buzz safely? I use to get high on 150mgs tramadol back when I could get high on 10-15mgs hydro lol so obviously its changed. Also how does the seizure threshold work with these? I understand they can also be dangerous. Please help guys I'm asking out of HR as I don't want take a to high dose etc.. thanks again guys
 
I'd try 150mg. It's a lot different of a high than vicodin, though. Hard to compare doses.

I personally cannot stand tramadol these days. It's like using methylone after being an MDMA fiend.
 
Well I took 300mgs since no one responded like 2 hours ago. Feelin pretty good. What's the seizure controversy with tramadol? Are they common?
 
Well I took 300mgs since no one responded like 2 hours ago. Feelin pretty good. What's the seizure controversy with tramadol? Are they common?

Common? No. They do happen in higher doses though. I wouldn't worry about it unless you go above like 400mg.
 
My opinion, tramadol is not even opiates
It is useful for pain relieve,
Useless for getting high

I can only accept it as opiates booster
 
Not a favorite of mine but it works when your fiendin for opiates. Can someone tell me how you would act right before you would encounter a seizure from tramadol? The thought of having one while on tramadol gives me anxiety kind of. So you don't think 300mgs would give me one? I know theirs no definite answer cause everyone's body chemistry is different but just want opinions
 
Not a favorite of mine but it works when your fiendin for opiates. Can someone tell me how you would act right before you would encounter a seizure from tramadol? The thought of having one while on tramadol gives me anxiety kind of. So you don't think 300mgs would give me one? I know theirs no definite answer cause everyone's body chemistry is different but just want opinions

I don't know your opiates tolerance
I don't know what sign would show before seizure, but if that sign show, I don't think you can do anything to prevent that happen.
But if the seizure is what you worry about,
It is irresponsible to tell you not to worry about it, so lets put it this way,
If I were you, I wouldn't worry about it, my opinion,

In long term drug use, you should worry about liver or kidney failure more then seizure
And, seizure itself won't kill you, unless you hit by a car when your seizure attack,
But acute liver & kidney failure are fatal, 85% people die in 72 hours, so if you worry about health, stop taking it before too late.

Btw, 300mg is still a "doctors acceptable dose" for pain relieve

Why don't you jump to codeine, stop taking tramadol, it is much more safer than tramadol
Even morphine is safer than tramadol, (except the breathing problem)

Tramadol is much more toxic than codeine or morphine
People can use codeine or morphine for 40 years still didn't show serious health problem
 
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Yeah I love opiates and Tramadol again like I said isn't my DOC but it works when nothing else is available & I mean I'm not really worried but is in my mind to some extent. I love Hydromorphone to Oxymorphone to oxycodone etc but I was prescribed the Trammies from my Doctor visit last week for pain in my left testicle that randomly started occurring. I didn't choose these over anything else lol it wasn't my choice I was hoping he'd genuinely see how bad I was in pain & maybe help me out with some vicodin but yeah. I'll probably call him in a couple weeks and say its not working maybe take a step up to hydrocodone at the least. Ive just been researching about the whole seizure threshold being lowered with tramadol so that's where this is coming from. Like I said above it does worry me to a extent but nothing real serious that's why I'm trying to figure out how to dose safe and effectively. I've heard people say the that the whole seizure thing is highly overrated and its really rare like 1 in thousands get it and most that get it combined their Trammies with a different drug when they had a seizure? But yeah I don't know appreciate the responses guys. Not sure why I'm not getting more.
 
I once heard someone said to me the sign of seizure is you start hearing noise,
Like the white noise in radio

And you see stuff glowing
 
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The seizure thing is also very different from person to person. Some people don't react well to tramadol at all and get a seizure from, say, 100mg. But ofcourse those are the cases you read about online, not the other 100 people that never got a seizure off of tramadol. No more than 400mg and you should be fine. Higher doses aren't recommended. (Tbh, they don't add much either. Even when your tolerance is too big to feel 400mg, 800mg won't get u high.)

Tramadol is one of my fav. drugs and a phenomenal painkiller for me. It's on par with oxycodone both in terms of recreational effect and as a painkiller for me (lower back pain). I'll admit it's a pretty useless painkiller for alot of types of pain, and for headaches it even worsens the pain in my case, but for my chronic lower-backpain it's at least as effective as oxy. That's my experience with the drug ofcourse. That's just to say that tramadol isn't "a useless painkiller" or "only good when nothing else is around". Not to everyone atleast. Me, I've been using tramadol for years, I voluntarily switched to tram from oxy. Over time I've come to know quite a bit about it, so feel free to PM me if you have any more questions.

Oh yeah, to answer the "how can I tell if I'm close to a seizure" question; if you're experiencing any kind of twitching from a big dose of tramadol, definitely don't increase the dose any further (common sense) and if you have them it could prove helpful to take a benzo as that will increase the seizure threshold, preferably clonazepam, diazepam or lorazepam, they are the best anti-epileptic benzos. Experiencing small twitches doesn't necessarily mean you will have a seizure, but it does mean you're getting quite close to seizure-territory. I've only ever gotten this from doses well over 400mg. (I've never gotten a seizure from tramadol to date, but I always use it alongside a benzodiazepine.)

Hope that helps.
 
The seizure thing is also very different from person to person. Some people don't react well to tramadol at all and get a seizure from, say, 100mg. But ofcourse those are the cases you read about online, not the other 100 people that never got a seizure off of tramadol. No more than 400mg and you should be fine. Higher doses aren't recommended. (Tbh, they don't add much either. Even when your tolerance is too big to feel 400mg, 800mg won't get u high.)

Tramadol is one of my fav. drugs and a phenomenal painkiller for me. It's on par with oxycodone both in terms of recreational effect and as a painkiller for me (lower back pain). I'll admit it's a pretty useless painkiller for alot of types of pain, and for headaches it even worsens the pain in my case, but for my chronic lower-backpain it's at least as effective as oxy. That's my experience with the drug ofcourse. That's just to say that tramadol isn't "a useless painkiller" or "only good when nothing else is around". Not to everyone atleast. Me, I've been using tramadol for years, I voluntarily switched to tram from oxy. Over time I've come to know quite a bit about it, so feel free to PM me if you have any more questions.

Oh yeah, to answer the "how can I tell if I'm close to a seizure" question; if you're experiencing any kind of twitching from a big dose of tramadol, definitely don't increase the dose any further (common sense) and if you have them it could prove helpful to take a benzo as that will increase the seizure threshold, preferably clonazepam, diazepam or lorazepam, they are the best anti-epileptic benzos. Experiencing small twitches doesn't necessarily mean you will have a seizure, but it does mean you're getting quite close to seizure-territory. I've only ever gotten this from doses well over 400mg. (I've never gotten a seizure from tramadol to date, but I always use it alongside a benzodiazepine.)

Hope that helps.

....you can't use benzo + opiates for "prevent" seizure...this combo maybe increase the risk of having a seizure
benzo is for treating seizure isn't it?

Just like you can't take codeine to prevent cough...
Codeine is for treating cough....

But maybe I am wrong, not much exp with benzo
Teach me a lesson if I am :)
 
How good are they for quitting opiates?

If you go QT from oxy can you use these and get some relief or would it just keep you addicted?

These are confusing.

I have a bunch and can't stand them for a buzz. I don't even think they relieve pain that well.
 
& if a seizure would occur around what time when dosing tramadol would it happen? Like 45mins-hour? Or does it vary?

It isn't work like this man...first of all there is no way to tell when would it happen after you take the dose,

Secondly, don't think you have enough time to do something about it, when the first sign of seizure show, you won't even have enough time to dial 911. It happen in minutes maybe even second.

Just think about this, If there is some way to predict when the overdose would happen,
Then why there is still so many people die from overdose everyday

This I am 100% sure, there is no way to tell
 
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....you can't use benzo + opiates for "prevent" seizure...this combo maybe increase the risk of having a seizure
benzo is for treating seizure isn't it?

Just like you can't take codeine to prevent cough...
Codeine is for treating cough....

But maybe I am wrong, not much exp with benzo
Teach me a lesson if I am :)

It will also prevent seizures obviously. Benzos raise the seizure threshold which means you have far less chance of getting a seizure while on benzodiazepines, so tramadol is far less likely to give you a seizure when a benzo is present in your system.

The same is true for your example of codeine for coughs.. A dry cough is not going to surface when you're already on a dose of codeine. The codeine will suppress the cough before it even begins. When the codeine wears off, you'll start coughing but not before that.

So yes, you can use tramadol + a benzo to prevent a seizure.

& if a seizure would occur around what time when dosing tramadol would it happen? Like 45mins-hour? Or does it vary?

It varies.
 
I really wish I could take these but I got high once 2 days ago and now I feel traumatized lol those seizures sound scary as shit. Even doing 150-200mgs now scares the shit out of me I just can't imagine how it'd feel I've never had one before
 
I really wish I could take these but I got high once 2 days ago and now I feel traumatized lol those seizures sound scary as shit. Even doing 150-200mgs now scares the shit out of me I just can't imagine how it'd feel I've never had one before

.....no offense dude but seems you worry too much about the seizure thing..
You said you took Vicodin before, did you scared about the respiratory depression when you took them?

respiratory depression definitely would kill you,
Seizure won't....

First of all, the chance of respiratory depression happen is much comment than seizure,
Secondly, Vicodin related death is much more than tramadol,
There is at least 2 we both know, Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson.

The recommend dose is 400 mg per day, for no opiates tolerance people,
If you have any opiates experience, you have to take an insane dose to overdose,
I don't think anything will happen even i took 1400mg

My point is if you worry about the seizure, then there is so much more you have to worry

As an opiates addict, i would worry about choke by my own vomit than seizure
 
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I understand and yeah I agree I think I'm over reacting. As an opiate addict I know my dosage and tolerance so CNS depression never worrys me. I think justtthe thought of rolling around on the floor not being able to breathe and twitching etc just seems unpleasant. As respiratory depression doesn't hurt so I don't worry but like I said I know my dose with hydrocodone oxycodone etc so I never worry anyway.
 
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