So as stated in a previous thread if mine, I consider my self a "weekend warrior" I do a multitude of opiates from codeine to dope.(black tar). My average dose for oxy is 60-80mg. I've noticed that no matter how Long of a brake I take, whether it's 3 days or 20, my tolerance doesn't drop much. Recently I noticed something odd. After doing dope on weekends for a month or so I used oxy for the next few weeks on weekend, but the problem was I could only get ahold of 30-50mg at a time.Every time I took it in attempt to get higher off a lower dose I would add a day or so on to my week brakes then take my low 30mg dose. I switched back to dope and it felt like my tolerance was lower than when I took a month strait off of opiates. Now that I'm back to smoking dope on weekends and am sick of the intense cravings I get from it. I was wondering if instead of using suboxone to stop withdrawls or any other opiate for that matter I use them to lower my tolerance? For instance taking like 200mg of codeine (will barely relieve pain to me) to saturate my receptors with an opiate unfamiliar and less potent. Then continue doing the codeine every weekend I want to get high until my body finally is used to that opiate and can finally allow me get high off the low dose. Do you think this will work? Is this a better idea then cold turkey to lower tolerance? Let's here it, sounds like a good subject for discussion!
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Opioids Tolerance reduction for the weekend warrior.
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What helped me reduce tolerance over a period of a week between doses (like a weekend warrior would require) was ashwagandha and very careful microdosing of Iboga. Both these worked well but required careful responsible research before attempting to be safe and effective (especially with regards to Iboga).
Mr.Scagnattie
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You can develop a tolerance with any kind of routine using schedule, especially if on the days you do use, you use a lot. Granted, your tolerance wont be near as high as it would be had you been using everyday, but consistently using every weekend is still enough to begin getting your body used to the opiates. It also becomes harder and harder to stick to such a schedule... almost everybody started out a "weekend warrior".
The only way to lower your tolerance is taking longer breaks between using, force yourself to dose less, and wait greater intervals in between dosing.
The only way to lower your tolerance is taking longer breaks between using, force yourself to dose less, and wait greater intervals in between dosing.
dopemaster
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Good luck getting your tolerance down. I find it just doesn't happen.
Thanks for the answer especially the ones regarding ibogaine and ashwagandha. I'm would like more info onashwagandha as I've never heard of it.
For most people being weekend warriors are not plausible. For I am very careful with my usage. I was just wandering about lowering tolerance in regard to some studies and post I've seen where people even after long brakes there tolerances aren't very low. I was thinking that by taking lower doses and switching to opiates like codeine of hydrocodone which have lower affinity to receptors then oxy and heroin, it would allow for the brain to adjust to wanting less than more, effectively changing the brains chemistry and making it go back to not needed as high of a dose
For most people being weekend warriors are not plausible. For I am very careful with my usage. I was just wandering about lowering tolerance in regard to some studies and post I've seen where people even after long brakes there tolerances aren't very low. I was thinking that by taking lower doses and switching to opiates like codeine of hydrocodone which have lower affinity to receptors then oxy and heroin, it would allow for the brain to adjust to wanting less than more, effectively changing the brains chemistry and making it go back to not needed as high of a dose
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I'm a weekend warrior I guess...my tolerance is 30 mg with oxy..and about 3 grams uei kratom ( not together) .I am content at that dose and have been for years....I don't drink socially or to get drunk and see nothing wrong with my opiate use.
I think using heroin is where u went wrong...after that nothing was going to be like it used too...like smoking crack and saying adderall don't do it like it used too....
I think using heroin is where u went wrong...after that nothing was going to be like it used too...like smoking crack and saying adderall don't do it like it used too....
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But in your brain I'm sure now that your smoking h, you will need higher dose oxy
Yes, yes, and YES! Listen to this guy!
I used to use twice weekly, and my habit ended up going to a mere 60mg of insufflated heroin. But, considering I started at 20mg, this was a considerable increase. When I started using 60mg, I started using DXM every time -- about an hour before I dosed, I'd take 30mg of DXM. I lost control of my chipping a little while ago, and ended up using almost everyday for a few weeks. Still, I kept my DXM regiment up.
Now, I'm trying to quit, but I still use... The important thing in this post is that in all these months since I started using DXM 3 months ago, I haven't increased my heroin dose by a milligram. Nothing. No change. I STILL use either 30mg IV or 60mg snorted. And if I use more, I get incredibly nauseous and it kills the euphoria.
Amazing, isn't it? Not a milligram increase in tolerance in 3 months, even after a 3 week period of daily use. I can't think of a reason for this besides the DXM, as before that my tolerance rose from 20mg to 60mg after using only two times a week.
I have heard that taking MICRODOSES of naltrexone can help keep your tolerance down, but I'm not sure if it's meant more for people on pain management that use opiates daily, or if someone in the 'weekend warrior' category can utilize this drug in that manner. Here is the thread that mentioned this although there were only a few posts in it, but it does have a link in it, and you can search the web for more info now that you know about it.
Aside from looking into that method, I think the best ways to keep your tolerance down are to only use one day of the weekend, and also just take a single dose rather than re-dosing. A lot of people agree that re-dosing is pretty pointless on opiates, and all it does is make you more tired while jacking up your tolerance with little to no reward in turn for the larger dose taken.
Here is a scenario that you may find interesting. A while back I had come into some heroin. I did one bag every couple of hours, totaling 6 bags for the day. After the first two doses (1 bag each about 40 minutes apart) I didn't really get any higher, and just became more tired. The next day I did 2 bags at once, and was way higher than the day before, and it lasted a good 7 hours, whereas the high the day before didn't last nearly as long, other than the tired feeling that persisted throughout the day. It was the same batch so a variation in potency was not a possibility, which leaves the dosing routine as the main variable between the two days.
So, if you find that 60-80mg of oxycodone gets you high, do your main dose at once, although I recommend lowering it if you usually have it spread out some, as previous re-doses were likely ineffective. You can try 40-50mg at once, and if you really think it wasn't enough after say 30-40 minutes then re-dose once, and that's it. Don't go too crazy with the re-dose since the initial dose might not have fully hit you yet, and if you are only using once a week it's best to err on the side of caution. I also recommend sticking with oxycodone rather than dabbling with heroin as you never know the potency of heroin, and your tolerance and frequency of use is still low enough where you are better off not making the switch.
Aside from looking into that method, I think the best ways to keep your tolerance down are to only use one day of the weekend, and also just take a single dose rather than re-dosing. A lot of people agree that re-dosing is pretty pointless on opiates, and all it does is make you more tired while jacking up your tolerance with little to no reward in turn for the larger dose taken.
Here is a scenario that you may find interesting. A while back I had come into some heroin. I did one bag every couple of hours, totaling 6 bags for the day. After the first two doses (1 bag each about 40 minutes apart) I didn't really get any higher, and just became more tired. The next day I did 2 bags at once, and was way higher than the day before, and it lasted a good 7 hours, whereas the high the day before didn't last nearly as long, other than the tired feeling that persisted throughout the day. It was the same batch so a variation in potency was not a possibility, which leaves the dosing routine as the main variable between the two days.
So, if you find that 60-80mg of oxycodone gets you high, do your main dose at once, although I recommend lowering it if you usually have it spread out some, as previous re-doses were likely ineffective. You can try 40-50mg at once, and if you really think it wasn't enough after say 30-40 minutes then re-dose once, and that's it. Don't go too crazy with the re-dose since the initial dose might not have fully hit you yet, and if you are only using once a week it's best to err on the side of caution. I also recommend sticking with oxycodone rather than dabbling with heroin as you never know the potency of heroin, and your tolerance and frequency of use is still low enough where you are better off not making the switch.