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Feeling slightly shaky the next day after recreational heavy drinking

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Intenselife

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I will try to keep this concise and at the point since i'm feeling a bit too social right now. Ok i'm almost 22, the only time i would say i ever had a phase where i drank occassionally was towards the beginning of when i first started experimenting newly with drugs of course with alcohol being one of the first ones. Being 5'5 and 135, i would drink about 6 beers (in 30 mins) about every weekend for roughly 6 months. When i started to sip the beers it got me actually more tipsy than chugging them. Needless to say, sometimes it would be shots (6-7 at the time) or a bottle of beringer red wine etc. I naturally had a higher tolerance for someone who didn't drink often, and sometimes could outdrink people who drank more than me without feeling trashed, instead more upbeat and social (when with people).

Anyways even though in our society alcohol is not considered so horrible but as times goes on research has proven and given many examples how harmful and nasty binge drinking, drinking heavily, or being an alcoholic is. Worse than heroin, cocaine, and one of the worst drugs to have a full blown addiction to (unlike i thought). During that 6 month period before i moved onto recreationally trying other drugs and having a less interest in drinking because a few minor side effects were becoming more apparent, but at the time i didn't realize that alcohol was triggering them but i do now when i look back at it. Every weekend (or weekday usually no more than drinking 3 times a week max) i would be atleast hungover atleast one of those times every week for those 6 months. And those hangovers involving non-stop throwing up, severe headache etc (you know the hangover symptoms) and towards the end i would get more and more emotional as i drank, because my true feelings would start coming out and i had a quiet a few crying outbursts (even though i never fully blacked on alcohol by itself which still stands till today). If something was bothering me i could feel a tingle in my heart/chest and could feel tears forming even when i was sober. (I was real depressed so of course that added to it).

Fast forward a few years later with a bunch of shit that happened between from them then to now, but way to much and a little off topic to mention all that. I got a job that is right across from a bar 3 months ago, and i usually go to the bar 2 times a week and sometimes i'll go 3 times, pretty consistently now for a few months once in a rare while i won't go during the week but that happened like once or twice. So either way when i go to the bar it varies on what i get, (i woudn't be spending so much at a bar if my parents werent so religious and extremely strict since childhood) quiet a few times i have upto 8 shots one after another (especially since everyone at the bar knows me, and i know them). And i will be just tipsy but not completely numb and tingling everywhere like i want to be but obviously still conscious and NOT hungover.

So for the past few months i usually average on 12-24 drinks a week, which isn't extremely high nor daily but i also was prescribed 1mg klonopin twice a day (2mg total) 4 months ago. Mind you not i am aware of the "dangers" because i almost overdosed on the first time i took xanax (4mg and a beer fell asleep for 24 hours don't remember it). But the klonopin since i am tolerant to it and don't abuse it DOES NOT make the alcohol's effect any stronger for me, in fact it makes me more calm when i drink opposed to as being wild if i don't take it and drink it. I guess what you could say i'm like a binge drinker, which many people are especially in our country but don't look as it as being dangerous or having any side effects.

But finally to the main point yesterday i had 4 beers (4 beers gets me more buzzed/tipsy than 8 shots of vodka straight) and then i also had two double shots of absolute vodka (4 shots, 4 beers = 8 drinks). Now their has been times in the past during long phase i'd drink once a month or so and not really have a huge craving for it (due to other drugs) those 8 shots would be enough to get me pretty hungover and feeling like i'm gonna die the next day omg so painful, but that doesn't happen at all anymore which shocks me but i have a feeling being prescribed the klonopin is probably whats preventing a lot of negative side effects as the beginning stages of binge drinking.

This morning maybe the second or third time i noticed this happen but i noticed it more this time than before. I felt like my muscles were slightly achy? like my bones in my arms felt a little sore, and i noticed they had this weird shaking feeling to them. It was like if i didn't try real hard they would be slightly shaking not like jerks or violent movements but slight shakiness. I have heard and been fascinated by "the shakes" associated with heavy/chronic/daily alcohol use, and how many people drink to just get rid of the shakes and the even worse symptoms that start if they are addicted to alcohol. But why would i even have any feeling to slightly shake, slight sore muscles, and headache BUT THAT ALL WENT AWAY WHEN I TOOK MY MORNING 1MG DOSE OF KLONOPIN. I don't even get heartburn like i used to from drinking a long time ago when i wasn't on klonopin (or any meds). So if you had the interest to read my long ass shit, do you think continuing to drink 2 times a week ranging around 10-16 drinks a week will present any side effects if i keep at that amount? I feel like the klonopin is hiding certain sypmtoms that can or have started developing but idk if it can!
 
I had the interest to read your "long ass shit," but I got to the end and couldn't make out a coherent question. So, I'm not clear on just what it is you're trying to learn or accomplish. Any chance you might be able to condense your original post of 1000+ words down into something more manageable for us?

In the meantime, I can tell you this. I drank alcoholically for 20 years and have 6 years without a drink. And I've reduced my Benzodiazepine use from 6 mg of Xanax per day in 2000 to 1 mg of Klonopin per day currently. So, I can probably offer you some pretty sound experiential advice. And I would generally say this: there are only three drugs on earth that really scare me ... alcohol, Xanax or Klonopin (take your pick), and IV Heroin. Settling in for a long ride with the first two on that list (as it sounds like you have) actually terrifies me -- just given what I've been through over the last 25 years. If I had that to do over again, I'd probably join the priesthood instead. Or maybe become a junkie. Either one would have done less damage most likely.

You sound like a young guy with potentially a long and happy life ahead of you. That's where I was in my late teens. Now, in my early 40s, I hope there's still something left for me? Don't get to where I am. Seriously.
 
I get something similar to how you described op; if I have a drink - normally a quarter litre of vodka - then I feel really shaky and anxious for around 48 hours, and I was only drinking once a week, and the amount was small for me. I ended up just stopping completely. I'd done the whole alkie thing, and those jitters felt a lot like dt's for my liking. If I were you, I'd just stop drinking, it doesn't sound worth it to me. Btw the shakes are classic WD symptoms, but I don't see how you can have a dependence. I know you gotta have something to unwind- maybe smoke weed or something instead?
 
Intenselife said:
So for the past few months i usually average on 12-24 drinks a week


also was prescribed 1mg klonopin twice a day (2mg total) 4 months ago.

yesterday i had 8 drinks).

This morning
slight shakiness.
BUT THAT ALL WENT AWAY WHEN I TOOK MY MORNING 1MG DOSE OF KLONOPIN.
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^^quoted for what I skimmed and am basing this answer on.

Yes 8 drinks can make you feel "off" the next day. That is a normal side effect of drinking alcohol. It increases the more often you drink.

Sounds like you have built a mild physical addiction between your drinking and klonopin usage.

Are you taking the Klonopin strictly as prescribed ??
Are you using any stimulants ? (Asking because of the huge block paragraphs post)...

Try to tone down the drinking if you can, and don't freak or take extra klonopin if you feel a little off the morning after a night drinking.

Others may be able to give you better advice.
 
I'm not sure i was on adderall the day i wrote this post. And although i know a lot of extra long and more of like a story/personal experience. I guess the two questions I really had after that long blob thread was:

1) Is 12-24 drinks a week for someone 5'5 140 male (if that matters) usually done over 2-3 days and usually atleast always 4 drinks usually 6-8 every week considered harmful to the body or mentally in anyway or atleast if i still keep continuing? I know that drinking i think it's like 2-3 drinks everyday for a male particularly red wine can be healthy for males and has research to back it up. But i'm like a binge drinker you could say.

2) Also by taking my daily unabused prescribed dose of klonopin of 1mg twice a day, with when i drink make the klonopin less effective (i don't ever take extras). I don't want to ruin the klonopins ability to decrease its effectivity or anxiety relieving properties, so 2-3 times of drinking a week any danger?

---On a side note if you read my long ass thread i mentioned when i used to drink similarly to the amount that i do now a few years ago when i was 18, i DON'T throw up anymore or really get too hungover (probably because my dose is usually around the same each time and my body has learn to tolerate it). But sometimes during those days when i have like 8 drinks, sometimes i wake up the next morning feeling a little disconnected and not really "their" a foggy feeling, that the klonopin helps to decrease. I'm just intrigued after reading about all the side effects i have read about alcohol drinking and that i've witnessed in others, since it's such an overly used drug (or so most dont think it is) in our society but you never hear anyone talk about the negative effects of alcohol as much as you do when you hear the names vicodin, heroin, meth, cocaine (some of which is safer than alcohol)
 
Alcohol is a poison accepted by society. It always produced a cheap high in my opinion. I like a beer every now and then, but i don't get drunk ever.
 
Regarding my post, I also have been smoking weed daily for a month now. They call it "k" here (wtf strain is that) but either way i just consider it higher grade reggie, so that with the prescribed dose with klonopin, and the binge drinking will it increase any side effects? I love smoking weed after drinking it makes me feel super stimulated if i'm with people and educated since the two balance each other out. But i also pass out easier if i'm not doing much
 
Intenselife said:
I'm not sure i was on adderall the day i wrote this post. And although i know a lot of extra long and more of like a story/personal experience. I guess the two questions I really had after that long blob thread was:

1) Is 12-24 drinks a week for someone 5'5 140 male (if that matters) usually done over 2-3 days and usually atleast always 4 drinks usually 6-8 every week considered harmful to the body or mentally in anyway or atleast if i still keep continuing? I know that drinking i think it's like 2-3 drinks everyday for a male particularly red wine can be healthy for males and has research to back it up. But i'm like a binge drinker you could say.

2) Also by taking my daily unabused prescribed dose of klonopin of 1mg twice a day, with when i drink make the klonopin less effective (i don't ever take extras). I don't want to ruin the klonopins ability to decrease its effectivity or anxiety relieving properties, so 2-3 times of drinking a week any danger?

---On a side note if you read my long ass thread i mentioned when i used to drink similarly to the amount that i do now a few years ago when i was 18, i DON'T throw up anymore or really get too hungover (probably because my dose is usually around the same each time and my body has learn to tolerate it). But sometimes during those days when i have like 8 drinks, sometimes i wake up the next morning feeling a little disconnected and not really "their" a foggy feeling, that the klonopin helps to decrease. I'm just intrigued after reading about all the side effects i have read about alcohol drinking and that i've witnessed in others, since it's such an overly used drug (or so most dont think it is) in our society but you never hear anyone talk about the negative effects of alcohol as much as you do when you hear the names vicodin, heroin, meth, cocaine (some of which is safer than alcohol)
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just happened to see this again

told u you were a little bit speedy when you wrote that lol

Everyone is gonna give you different advice. Yea man drinking that much a week is going to have some effects.
For me, I had to chill out on binge drinking, I need to think clearly for my occupation, and I can't add any other health issues(even minor ones) to the mix. You have to make the choices that fit your lifestyle and goals and everything.
Some of that next day feeling is due to actual withdrawals from the alcohol, some is just dehydration and toxicity. Alcohol definitely takes a toll on the brain, at least temporarily while using regularly - until you take a break from it.

B Vitamins = cop some sunflower seeds, lima beans lol and a b-vitamin supplement. Some of the "jitters" is due to alcohol always blocking absorption of B Vitamins.
 
Yeah i wish i knew someone who would of told me some of their side effects from heavy binge drinking but none would, so that leaves me confused and curious.
 
I've just have met so many people who were alcoholics and didn't really noticably seem any different than a normal person atleast when your just with them for a little bit, but if it's that painful and damaging for you why doesn't it have more obvious signs to, such as a meth addict, heroin addict etc.

With the exception with this one girl who was very ditsy and had bizarre behavior that was only 25 but said she was an alcoholic for 4 years. She would have to pause and think of what to say, get excited very easily, and wasn't very focused. And she was real skinny. I believe during these times she was sober from 4 years of drinking. Also my ex best friend who was an heavy alcoholic when i lived elsewhere was a HUGE LIAR, don't know if that relates to someone who used to drink a lot. And he would get terrible shakes and nightmares in his sleep even after years of quitting drinking.
 
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