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Where are the firearms at?

I think Keirsey is an interpretation or modification of Myers Briggs that has Inventor, Architect etc.

Actually, I didn't think Keirsey, I thought "architect is another one" and searched for "inventor architect personality test" :|

The 4 Temperaments
Guardian

Supervisor (ESTJ)
Inspector (ISTJ)
Provider (ESFJ)
Protector (ISFJ)

Artisan
Promoter (ESTP)
Crafter (ISTP)
Performer (ESFP)
Composer (ISFP)

Idealist
Teacher (ENFJ)
Counselor (INFJ)
Champion (ENFP)
Healer (INFP)

Rational
Fieldmarshal (ENTJ)
Mastermind (INTJ)
Inventor (ENTP)
Architect (INTP)
 
Marmalade said:
INTP comes out as a role tho

lemme find the categories
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The stuff I have here, it shows career interests but only for the middle two letters. So for me as NT I have

Physical Science
Research
Management
Computers
Law
Engineering
Technical Work


Inventor is not one of the options for any of them. Might be a different guide, but this is pretty pro shit. Some of the folk in a certain department at my work are trained to do it and it costs about £30 (the business, not me) a head to get the report drawn up. Apparently costs a few hundred quid to just go and get this done independently.

knock said:
I think Keirsey is an interpretation or modification of Myers Briggs that has Inventor, Architect etc.
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Ah right, I've not got that. Seems a bit weird to narrow it down so specifically when there's not many different combinations of those 4 letters that can come out of it.
 
PT, they are not "job prescriptions", but personality types. 8) have you had your weed yet?

And yeah as marmz suggests it's not a science, it's an industry.
 
Marmalade said:
it's all hugely flawed tho, as someone in the official thread lurking about EADD somewhere pointed out.

Can be handy tho, and if you check yourself regularly to see if you get consistently the same result it may be of use in understanding yourself. or not
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Flawed, yes. And panders to a control freak's needs perfectly.

What's not to love?
 
you recon? How so?

I see it as a bit of a learning tool, because while the test is flawed, it does compare your answers with behavioural traits (jung) and sometimes it's helpful for overcoming repeat problems with behaviour. I find anyway.
 
Mendo_K said:
UK Gangsters going all out and printing them plastic 3D Guns, anyone seem them before? Can smuggle them on airplanes etc pretty much and just assemble them on board, going to have to make that 1 shot count though. ;)

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/10/manchester-cops-seize-3d-printed-gun-in-mass-organised-crime-bust/

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Imagine holding up an offy with this bad boy.
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Not that simple, you still need actual working parts.
I believe Glocks don't set off alarms too but I may be wrong, not willing to test the theory myself.
 
Marmalade said:
you recon? How so?

I see it as a bit of a learning tool, because while the test is flawed, it does compare your answers with behavioural traits (jung) and sometimes it's helpful for overcoming repeat problems with behaviour. I find anyway.
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Pseudo-psychology, even if it does vie for credibility with a fashionable Jung namecheck. Old pseudo-psychology at that.
 
relate that to the control freak point please?

Not sure what you mean with the above in regards to it pandering to control freaks
 
Marmalade said:
relate that to the control freak point please?

Not sure what you mean with the above in regards to it pandering to control freaks
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The whole binary categorisation schtick. It's certainly not designed as a self-developmental tool, put it that way. Even if it were effective as such, which it blatantly ain't. It's designed to put people into cosy categories when reality doesn't work that way.

Corporate voodoo.
 
Only a control freak would want to test people and assign a 4-letter code representing their personality type :D

Lots of control freaks in the HR sector.
 
Bodda said:
Not that simple, you still need actual working parts.
I believe Glocks don't set off alarms too but I may be wrong, not willing to test the theory myself.
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The only metal parts that set off alarms are the firing pin and some screws.



Some Daily express reporter or someone went on a mad one and travelled the Eurostar with juan. :o

Ive access to a 3D printer at Uni, the files are online.
 
Sammy G said:
The whole binary categorisation schtick. It's certainly not designed as a self-developmental tool, put it that way. Even if it were effective as such, which it blatantly ain't. It's designed to put people into cosy categories when reality doesn't work that way.

Corporate voodoo.
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I don't disagree with anything here really. It's insanely limited, and the notion of boxing folk in to a small set of traits isn't going to be detailed enough to be of much use. But the one thing the test stipulates, is that it isn't there to define your personality type, but to highlight and provide a definition of known traits you possess from Jungs descriptions*. It doesn't claim to be more than that, or universal

Anyone with a brain can work out it's limited.

I was just interested in what you were referring to with the control freak comment.

But knock's description makes sense

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I've found the discriptions from my own test fairly helpful, and I identify with what's written, particularly with the traits describing negative behaviours.


[EDIT]* ignore that, I'm talking shite. Like this topic lots tho, so will be back much later on ... gotta go for now tho, errands n stuff
 
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I'm not that familiar with Jung's method, but did he not just read some ancient greek philosophy (which is now considered mostly bunk), a bit of Freud, and then come up with an entire system one sunday afternoon after too much wine? A bit like Freud himself :D (although he was on cocaine, not wine)

That's my only criticism of psychoanalysis - that none of it has any scientific basis. And I only have this criticism because I read it somewhere else ;)

edit: just to compare with another soft science - economics; Marx (and his forerunners and contemporaries) based his ideas on his experience of actual capitalist businesses like the one Engels ran in Manchester. He went to factories and learned about how they operated. But you can't go out and visit the psyche with the same objective rigour. Obviously you can visit the psyche, this is BL, but I'm not sure of the validity of the results which are wholly the result of introspection.
 
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StoneHappyMonday said:
They are now saying the 3D gun was just normal parts of the 3D printer. Police fuck up.
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Ah, I hate it when they group togethor a number of different raids, in the Article it makes out that they seized cocaine, a shit loads of guns AND this 3D
printer..looking at the pictures..

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...r-news/3d-gun-find-greater-manchester-6242446

Officers also took a model Smith and Wesson gun he was making - which is an "executive toy" and fires rubber bands.
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The lethal bastard rubber band gun returns!! They seized a rubber bang gun.. =D
 
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