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Gibberings CXLVII: Best ROA for Berocca?

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crackhead, that's not necessarily true. in fact id hazzard a guess that poorer homes being less well insulated end up using more than homes intrinsically larger. also, think about it, you have to go to fairly lengthy extremes before you reach a range where there are significant differences in energy consumption at home. for example, a detatched house in britain would cover everything from single parents on minimum wage, to millionaire doctors. the post code may change, but the energy consumption? we all mostly use a washing machine, a boiler, a few tv's, a computer, etc etc. for the most part, it's a flat tax




shm - thank for the info, 4% is still far too much though. should be via voluntary contribution. if people want to throw their money away against the caprices of the sun, well that's up to them
 
Green energy is great - passive solutions are more attainable thought. Reduce consumption of energy from fossil fuels look at solar, thermal, insulated walls etc
 
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crackhead, that's not necessarily true. in fact id hazzard a guess that poorer homes being less well insulated end up using more than homes intrinsically larger. also, think about it, you have to go to fairly lengthy extremes before you reach a range where there are significant differences in energy consumption at home. for example, a detatched house in britain would cover everything from single parents on minimum wage, to millionaire doctors. the post code may change, but the energy consumption? we all mostly use a washing machine, a boiler, a few tv's, a computer, etc etc. for the most part, it's a flat tax




shm - thank for the info, 4% is still far too much though. should be via voluntary contribution. if people want to throw their money away against the caprices of the sun, well that's up to them
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You don't agree that people with more money will spend more on energy bills? If you're poor as shit you're going to stick two extra jumpers on before cranking that thermostat, if you're not you're going to crank the thermostat and stick some shorts on. The richest people in our society usually live in much larger homes and clearly spend more on fuel bills than the poorest people. Part of that green tax goes towards helping the poorer to get their homes properly insulated, so that they are not spending more due to shit insulation.

Rising energy prices have had a disproportionate impact on the less well-off. Data published by DECC shows that lower income households have cut back more on gas and electricity use than homes with more prosperous occupants. Despite rising bills, electricity consumed by the wealthiest homes hasn’t fallen since 2005 but the poorest households have cut their use by 13%. Gas usage has gone down a quarter in homes in the bottom half of the income distribution, much more than the more prosperous households.

Gas and electricity consumption are gently falling in UK homes. The amount of gas used depends on winter temperatures but the overall trend is clearly downwards. Some of this fall is driven by better insulation and new condensing boilers but rising prices have also forced UK homes into setting thermostats lower. The average (‘mean’) electricity use was 4,600 kWh in 2005 and 4,200 in 2011, the latest year for which figures are available. This is an average reduction of 9%. Gas savings were more substantial, with the average falling from 18,600 kWh to 14,100 in the same period, a cut of 24%. Even the cold year of 2010 didn’t interrupt the average fall.

Closer examination shows the impact of lower incomes on the change in energy use. Gas consumption – used for hot water, some cooking and heating in about 80% of UK homes – fell by 27% in the poorest households, almost twice the figure for the very richest.
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http://www.carboncommentary.com/2013/08/02/3189
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