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25b-, 25c-, and 25i-NBOMes soon to be Scheduled in US, legal for now?!?

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So the DEA wrote up a bulletin on the 4th of this month, and it was filed on the 9th. In part it says,

" It is the intention of the Deputy Administrator to issue such a final order as soon as possible after the expiration of 30 days from the date of publication of this notice. 25I-NBOMe, 25C-NBOMe, and 25B-NBOMe will then be subject to the regulatory controls and administrative, civil, and criminal sanctions applicable to the manufacture, distribution, possession, importation, exportation, research, and conduct of instructional activities of a Schedule I controlled substance under the CSA."

Doesn't that mean that they are legal for above said purposes until 30 days after the 4th? Or the 9th maybe?
 
Then why does it say 'will THEN be subject to the regulatory controls and administrative, civil, and criminal sanctions...'?
 
Jay, don't take this as rudeness, but I'm not talking about passing off grey areas. I mean, in a court of law, with a judge and/or jurists holding to the letter of the law, the DEA bulletin seems to be saying that AFTER the 30 day waiting period these substances will come under scheduled control.

See, I think it is written as such because instant scheduling could lead to tyranny. Say you get caught with 100 gallons of window cleaner and the DEA thinks you are going to use it as a lab chemical to do what they see as a nefarious act. So they arrest and hold you for the allowed 48 hours, and in the mean time, they post a bulletin saying that possession of quantities of window cleaner over 99 gallons is a felony precursor possession. After the bulletin is posted, but before your 48 hour 'speedy trial' rights kick in, they charge you with felony precursor possession. See where I'm going? Maybe they are restrained from instant scheduling for this reason. Otherwise the bulletin would be written like, "Hear ye, hear ye! This crap right here is illegal starting right NOW!"
 
I interpret their statement (the entire one not just what you quoted) as, "We're declaring this compound enough of a risk to warrant 'emergency' temporary scheduling as a S1 drug to clearly define the risk in using it (both in terms of health and legally). After or before said allotted time, this compound is surely to be moved to permanent S1 status (ie: added to the list along with all the other S1 drugs and not on the special 'temporary' status). Not only that but this compound meets the qualifications to be legally considered an analog of a S1 compound." Hope that clears things up (I might be wrong but this is how I interpreted it)
 
Thanks to the law, a grey area can swing in either direction... This you ultimately have no choice over and will be charged as seen fit... It will be treated as if it is already scheduled.

Just because it is not written in stone doesn't mean they won't throw you under the bus.... and they will.

Most vendors have already stopped selling them... They know this same thing I'm telling you already.

Look at the context of the substance in question, and you will indeed know which way your charge is going to swing... DRUG POSSESSION.

Buy a little stockpile to keep just in case you may never purchase it again? Johnny law says no way this is personal. DISTRIBUTION.

You knowing that the drug is clearly "in the grey area" and still using it as a recreational substance... get caught with it... PUBLIC INTOXICATION/DRUG POSSESION.

ON top of this, it is POSSESSION OF A S1 SUBSTANCE...

There is no way you are not going behind bars or have a lengthy probation period.


The law is not stupid, and we can't treat the controlled substance bullshit list as a black and white guideline...

Regardless if it is illegal or not, you are in for an assraping of ungodly proportions...

AND... IT IS.

Emergency scheduling does exactly what you say they can't do. Instantly schedule drugs.
 
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That would be humorous if it wasn't so persuasive, Jay. When I was writing about judges and jurists adhering to the letter of the law, I was grinning.;)

Still, I think I WOULD be correct in my legal interpretation if 'the law' wasn't above the law.
 
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That would be humorous if it wasn't so persuasive, Jay. When I was writing about judges and jurists adhering to the letter of the law, I was grinning.;)

Still, I think I WOULD be correct in my legal interpretation if 'the law' wasn't above the law.
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In a perfect government not spending money to do absolutely nothing productive. Yes. LOL

But, it's easy for people to say what is good or bad for people even though we do contain our own free will... It's irrational to tell anyone they can't get intoxicated if they clearly are doing no one but themselves harm.
 
Ok,im sorry. I havent been here for a while and my memery etc. Is low do to illness and surgery. Will someone please tell me what NBOMe is. Also please dont yell at me and talk down to me. Im still a little fuzzy from todays anesthesia.
 
^Please check out the Big & Dandy NBOMe Thread

To the OP. We don't cover legal questions on Bluelight. If you would like further elaboration as to why, please feel free to send me a PM.

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