April Jones: Mark Bridger's home to go up for rent

[mydrugbuddy]

David Askews was bullied and tormented for years before his death - (god only knows what he went through). His house was not demolished, nor the houses of the bastards that tortured him leading upto his death. Maybe because he was an adult with learning difficulties we don't have the same feelings for him as we do a young child?

I havent even heard of that case. I dont know if thats relevant or not. I usually keep up with 'current affairs' but there have been periods where Ive not watched the news for several weeks. Those circumstances are totally different, yes people would feel very sorry for the guy, but it doesnt have the same impact as murdering pretty pre-teen girls IME/IMO whatever. They are like India's Sacred cows or something for us, and if something bad happens to them it is very upsetting.

 

[parttime crackhead]

The death of a young white girl is literally the worst thing that can ever happen.

 

[Marmalade]

^ was just about to say similar.

A male with learning difficulties I recon is probably somewhere at the tail end of ITV's news priorities, and compares unfavourably to a similarly aged little girl

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Has anyone seen that clip of the young Chinese todler that was run over by a van, the clip was circulating a year or 2 ago ? The driver didnt give a shit, and all the passers by didnt give a shit either (dozens of people just passed by leaving the body in the middle of the road), until finally someone did something about it. I almost puked after watching that. Its the worst thing ive ever seen happen IRL (on a video clip)

I would like to think that would never happen in this country. In fact Im sure it wouldnt. I dunno if its cos China is so over populated or something else, but there is something disturbingly wrong with that country based on the evidence of that clip.

 

[knock]

On balance, I think it's probably better to work towards a society where people of all shapes and ages don't get murdered rather than fretting about the costs involved with demolishing the odd crime scene and compensating owners. It is a drop in the ocean, and I think it would be sad to resign ourselves to toughening up to such things.

On the other hand I think it's pretty sad that kids, oh and just people, die from preventable conditions (hunger, disease, disaster, war, ...) all the time and no-one gives a fuck (YKWIM), cos they're not here. And some of them are here.

 

[Bearlove]

I havent even heard of that case. I dont know if thats relevant or not. I usually keep up with 'current affairs' but there have been periods where Ive not watched the news for several weeks. Those circumstances are totally different, yes people would feel very sorry for the guy, but it doesnt have the same impact as murdering pretty pre-teen girls IME/IMO whatever. They are like India's Sacred cows or something for us, and if something bad happens to them it is very upsetting.

Yeah that was sort of my point - that guy was tortured / tormented for twenty years before he died. There was very little outcry about the case / no calls for his house to be demolished etc. The community don't care if somebody else moved into his house - no bricks will be thrown etc.

 

[Bearlove]

On balance, I think it's probably better to work towards a society where people of all shapes and ages don't get murdered.

If it was that easy ! My post wasn't about worrying about costs involved with knocking down the odd house - I was curious to see how people attach emotions to a building and their views etc.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

In honour of Thomas Becket I'm off to brick Canterbury cathedral.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

*laughs dryly*

 

[knock]

If it was that easy ! My post wasn't about worrying about costs involved with knocking down the odd house - I was curious to see how people attach emotions to a building and their views etc.

Didn't say it was easy. However if you don't set your targets at "better" you will most likely achieve "worse"

Would you feel comfortable living there knowing what happened? I know it's irrational but I don't think I would be overjoyed about it. Sure if it was the choice of the streets or this house then I'd go for the house. Then I'd probably get used to it after some time. Maybe. But that's not my choice, and why should it be anyone else's?

 

[parttime crackhead]

If it was that house or a similar house for twice the rent I'd take the cheaper crime scene.

 

[knock]

Long trip to sub club.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

If it was that house or a similar house for twice the rent I'd take the cheaper crime scene.

some people could handle it, some couldnt, I couldnt. No way.

 

[parttime crackhead]

I really don't think it would bother me. I'd possibly rethink that the first time I was home alone and there was a power cut though!

 

[knock]

It's not "things that go bump in the night" that would bother me but, you know, house dust and... I don't really want to write this so I'll put it in

NSFW:

bodily fluids and stuff like that, of both murderer and victim. Would you not be aware of the physical remnants of the previous occupier?

 

[parttime crackhead]

Cheap rent would make up for that. I've probably lived in mankier places tbh.

This is a weird thing to be talking about. I'm trying to convince you that I'd happily stay there when there's absolutely no possibility of that happening. I'd likely have different ideas if it was down the road from me.

 

[Sammy G]

bodily fluids and stuff like that, of both murderer and victim. Would you not be aware of the physical remnants of the previous occupier?

I'd expect them to have cleaned up...

Do you obsess about the bodily fluids of the previous occupants of any house you move into? :D

 

[Bearlove]

Didn't say it was easy. However if you don't set your targets at "better" you will most likely achieve "worse"

Would you feel comfortable living there knowing what happened? I know it's irrational but I don't think I would be overjoyed about it. Sure if it was the choice of the streets or this house then I'd go for the house. Then I'd probably get used to it after some time. Maybe. But that's not my choice, and why should it be anyone else's?

I would be comfortable living there (apart from the bricks coming through the windows etc) but I honestly don't think it would bother me - after interior had been replaced etc. Of course I would think about what had happened earlier but not to the extent that I wouldn't live there. Yes if by living there it caused great offense to the family / community and all that then I wouldn't but I could live there.

 

[Bearlove]

It's not "things that go bump in the night" that would bother me but, you know, house dust and... I don't really want to write this so I'll put it in

NSFW:

bodily fluids and stuff like that, of both murderer and victim. Would you not be aware of the physical remnants of the previous occupier?

No! I would have the place gutted anyway.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

No! I would have the place gutted anyway.

yeah that is the only compromise i can see, especially the bathroom needs totally gutting and re-doing. If a gutsy, respected, and or very popular or very tough and hard local person moves in they may get away without the indimidation tactics. There's some hard bastards in that area that no one messes with. Its the kind of area that the locals will find out whos done what well before the police will.

But otherwise its a magnet for trouble, in the form of vigalentees and nutters, especially if some rich English person buys is at as a holiday home to rent out during the summer season. The Welsh Nationalists get very hot under the collar about that anyway, and combining that with the history of this house, if an outsider buys it and uses it as a summer home/ rental summer holiday home, it will be disasterous.