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vapeing benzo powders in an e-cig ?

Why do you want to do this :? I thought you were wanting off the benzos. Now you're asking about more convenient, portable fancy-schmancy ingestion devices so you can show off to the ladies.
 
im taking things one step at a time Knock. Getting off opiates is my first goal. Once ive achieved that i may reward myself with a bit of limited benzo indulgence, before i start the long grind of tapering off them. I definately want to be getting my dose much lower, but thats like a 6 month goal, and i want to have myself some chemical fun before i start it.
 
Sure I know you want to take it slowly, nothing wrong with that.

I'm just not sure what extra fun you'll get from vaping your benzos other than an extremely easy and convenient way to overdo it.
 
Just don't.

I see this as a potential route to more badly-typed MDB rants about neighbours' cats and the like. At the end of the day, there ain't much 'fun' to be had out of benzos anyway.
 
yeah, i know what you mean, its just the thought of an instant hit that appeals, rather than having to not eat for 3 hours before you can take them. I suppose this thread is very bad HR, delete it if you want knock. Dont worry Sam im not going to be loosing the plot to that extent again any time soon.
 
I've no desire to delete the thread.

I actually don't find stomach contents slow down benzo effects that much, as long as I take it in a drink or something, kind of washes past the solids in the food. If I eat benzo pills I will chew them in my mouth and hold the powder there so I get some sublingual/buccal absorption, then chase it with a drink.

If you really want fast onset, you can plug a Propylene Glycol solution. Just go with half your normal dose though, that one ended badly first time I plugged 4mg etizolam (my drugs box took a hammering immediately after and all I remember is being dragged out of my bed by my cousin covered in puke).

I guess, echoing Sam, I just don't find benzos to be fun in a way that I would want them to "hit hard", because there is no "rush" with them, the sudden onset of relaxation and generally muted perception doesn't feel exciting.
 
Have you tried plugging them yet?

Obviously it's got the same car crash potential as vaping, but might (possibly) offer less redose compulsion. Assuming that vaping your benzos in an ecig works (and I have a feeling it might).

EDIT: Knock said it first.
 
Thankyou for your concern, but please note i said "limited" benzo indulgence, and i meant that. On previous occasions i put no limits on it and that was the main problem. After emerging from my most recent phenazepam car crash experience i believe that the word limit is the most important one. In practice this would mean not doing it more than once a week or something, rather than 24x7, 7 days a week, etc etc.

I dont do plugging, for several reasons that i dont really want to talk about openly lol.
 
Smoking is a very compulsive method of ingestion with any substance. Think about why you own an ecig in the first place.

Obviously plugging is compulsive to some (myself included), but tends to be somewhat self-limiting.

As for your aversion to plugging, I won't pry. I'll just speculate. Like fuck. :D
 
How about putting heroin in a e cig?

It would work, but no sure it would give you very much of a hit each time unless you put loads into the solution.

And I'm not really that willing to risk it.

Then again maybe.....
 
I've heard stories about a dude that used to crush up whole valiums and smoke them, however to the best of my knowledge this never caught on. I admit to having snorted a few in my time but I I wouldn't recommend it.

Despite being an incorrigible benzo head myself I probably agree that they don't bring so much excitement relative to other drugs. However, benzo type drugs such as lorazepam and zolpidem do have some pretty unique mental effects as they kick in.
 
ive seen documentaries showing people chasing oxy pills with a tooter around their foil with a lighter underneath. Fuck knows how they got that to work. On the rare occasions ive had oxy it cost a fortune due to my tolerance at the time and i wasnt going to risk fucking them up by trying that.
 
Too right, unless you got a steady cheap supply you don't wanna risk half of it disappearing into the ether. One of my all time drug administration back fires was on the morphine pills. I remember snorting these 60mg slow release pills to try and fast track them. Unfortunately this lead to severe nose and throat clog where they coagulated into a paste, slowing absorption down to a crawl.
 
knock said:
Now you're asking about more convenient, portable fancy-schmancy ingestion devices so you can show off to the ladies.
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=D

"Does Madam care to partake in the limited appeal & vice of smoking some Benzodiazepine chemicals with me?"
Sure beats just offering to buy 'em a drink I guess.

Kinda OT but I read a thread on PD of doing this with mxe & it seemed to work.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
rather than having to not eat for 3 hours before you can take them
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Total shit. I normally stick mine under my tongue. Even on a full stomach, you'll get full effects within an hour. Don't bother making them even more easy to abuse, mate. I'm not even sure it'd work, as I don't think the benzo would vapourise with the propylene glycol, and you'd just be left with an unusable e-cig, full of powder.
 
etizolam has a 92 - 97 % oral bio availabilty, and you get less out of it sublingually, so its obviusly best to take it orally (bombed). I allways thought the rule of thumb was to wait 3 hours after eating to ingest any drugs, for them to hit you quicker and harder, lest they may not even have any effect at all. Im prepared to change my stance on that. I'll give it a go and see what happens.
 
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