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Heroin rig not working dope not dissolving?

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delerius

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Hey guys i just got some Boston dope and it basically looks like a little tan/light brown rock. it breaks up pretty easy but doesn't dissolve well in just water. I tried adding a bit of vitamin c but it didn't really work. Any Ideas? any help would be appreciated. Also im almost positive the dealer didn't sell me bunk or what he knew was bunk, ive known him since back in the day. :? If i broke any rules let me know ;0
 
use heat, when u get dope that is rocky, u need heat to break down the rocky shit, trust me ur lucky to have dope that is chunky...its a good sign, in my experience..when i came across dope with chunky shit in it, i couldnt get it to dissolve, when i put a flame under it, it broke right down, i never use heat for my dope, once in awhile i have to
 
i tried vit b also it does break up real easy under heat but its still not dissolving so well in the water. when i added vinegar it dissolved a bit better but still didn't really get high of off it. I saw some pictures of people that say they coped doped in boston area and it looks like exactly the same as what i got even the way its wrapped so i dont know.
 
How about crushing it really finely? Like with a pestle and mortar, or even a razor? Again, I'd suggest citric,no way would I use vinegar (could have harmful fungi) it's pretty damn abrasive; it's standard HR kit for the rocky garbage over here, and available from any chemist.(don't use lemon juice, though!)

Is it def dope btw? (Does it taste/smell right? If so, could smoking or plugging it not be an option for you?
 
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There's no need to use citric acid or heat, what you need to do is just crush it. sometimes the rocks of dope can be extremely compressed and difficult to break, even harder if you don't want it to go flying everywhere. It just takes some aggressive pressure with a bic lighter. This is assuming it's real, if it's a solid rock that won't break down into powder, it's not ECP. I had some tar when I was out west about a week ago that obviously wouldn't break down into powder, it did eventually crush though and I kept flashing it with a little heat until it dissolved, which still took awhile.

Heat will speed the process up in situations where it's rock hard and you don't have a surface to crush it, but I'd only do that in an "emergency" situation, and then let it cool so the solids precipitate back into the solution and can be filtered.
 
there should be no reason to add any citric acid as the very large majority of us dope is no. 4 which is freely water soluble.

opiatekrzy - number one rule to prepping anything for IV is never add heat. it allows insolubles in your shot which upon cooling precipitate back to solubles which in turn start to clog up arteries and your circulatory system. and worse case scenario cause clots, leading to strokes and immenent death.

please stop advising people add heat.

OP - are you crushing dope befo
 
OP - are you crushing your dope before mixing? and can you confirm you have no. 4 dope and not no. 3 which does require the appropriate acid to make it injectable.
 
I don't use dope any more, but through sheer curiosity, how do you tell what grade you've got ie 3, 4 etc? In the UK citric is standard kit for cooking all of our dope, it's what we give all shooters at HR sites; so that would mean our standard is...say, 3?
 
yeah like 95% of uk dope is going to be no. 3 afghan dope. some no. 4 does show up on ocassion.

no. 3 is insoluble in water without an acid added hence kits containing it to break it down.
 
its looks/ smells right. i crushed it up pretty fine last night and it still didnt work to well. Im used to just getting stamps from like the nyc area but this was a bit different.
 
dopemegently said:
Have you tried using citric acid?
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i believe you only need citric acid when using black tar heroin, as it is freebase heroin , when it comes to east coast powder heroin you only need water, unless some rare wack cut is in it from an amateur dealer who doesnt know what the hell he is doing..
 
tentram said:
there should be no reason to add any citric acid as the very large majority of us dope is no. 4 which is freely water soluble.

opiatekrzy - number one rule to prepping anything for IV is never add heat. it allows insolubles in your shot which upon cooling precipitate back to solubles which in turn start to clog up arteries and your circulatory system. and worse case scenario cause clots, leading to strokes and immenent death.



please stop advising people add heat.

OP - are you crushing dope befo
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correction: I NEVER USE HEAT WHEN I SHOOT DRUGS, only on RARE circumstances when i had heroin that was real rocky,. i had trouble breaking down the rocks, so when i added heat under the cooker, the rocks dissolved into solution. believe me im no amateur, even when i IV pills, i use the ICE SHAKE method, by usiing ICE WATER . heat is NEVER GOOD, but in CERTAIN situation, heat must be aplied when shooting heroin, or when shooting crack, and needing heat to thin out the liquid or break down the rocks. out of my 15yrs of shooting heroin, i only applied heat maybe 3 times because of the chunks,. to break it down easier. i do NOT promote using HEAT. why is it people always cook they're heroin?? i never do!! RARELY
 
opiatekrzy said:
i believe you only need citric acid when using black tar heroin, as it is freebase heroin , when it comes to east coast powder heroin you only need water, unless some rare wack cut is in it from an amateur dealer who doesnt know what the hell he is doing..
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You don't need citric acid for black tar. It's not freebase dope. Freebase dope is what is in the UK.
 
to my understanding, and reports on this site from other BLers who have Tar in they're area, they claim Tar heroin is just freebase form, that's why it can be smokes, where I live, East Coast, its powder, it can only be snorted or Injected, smoked I believe would be a waste..correct me if im wrong all you tar users from the other side of the US
 
opiatekrzy said:
to my understanding, and reports on this site from other BLers who have Tar in they're area, they claim Tar heroin is just freebase form, that's why it can be smokes, where I live, East Coast, its powder, it can only be snorted or Injected, smoked I believe would be a waste..correct me if im wrong all you tar users from the other side of the US
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It can be smoked easily just because of its consistency, which is from being mixed from lower quality acetylated derivatives of morphine. However, it is not actually in freebase form like UK dope. Those are two very different kinds of heroin from two different parts of the world. Freebase H is Afgan and black tar is made in mexico. Any west coast user who says that BTH is freebase is simply mistaken.
 
You can smoke east coast powder as well, it's not too hard if you know what you're doing, but if you're a shooter it's a huge pain in the ass because you have to use small amounts and keep loading and hitting over and over. with a shot, you just push the plunger down once for 100% BA.

Smoking is a pleasant way to do it, and you can keep feeling little rushes every time you hit it...Black tar is a lot harder to work with than ECP.
 
delerius said:
Hey guys i just got some Boston dope and it basically looks like a little tan/light brown rock. it breaks up pretty easy but doesn't dissolve well in just water. I tried adding a bit of vitamin c but it didn't really work. Any Ideas? any help would be appreciated. Also im almost positive the dealer didn't sell me bunk or what he knew was bunk, ive known him since back in the day. :? If i broke any rules let me know ;0
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What do you mean it won't break down? My friend is in the Boston area too and got some that sounds like you describe. He could get it into the spike but it was so dark and milky he couldn't even see blood when he was registering.... Quality was nice but whatever it is cut with can't be good.
 
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it wont break down cuz its rocky and the dealer didn't crush it too finely, or it was raw shit, if u let it sit in the water long enough eventually it will breAK DOWN, as other said, crush the rocky shit up, then add water and stir, for me, when I couldn't get the rocky dope to dissolve, I put heat under my cooker, and it broke down into the solution...dark dope can be good, and dark dope can be a sign of a cut of horse tranquilizer, u simply will never know how pure or trash heroin is. you can have two piles of heroin that look identical in color, consistency, smell, etc...one pile can be absolute JUNK, while the other pile can kill you as its purity can be mind blowing...
 
No matter what don't add heat, if your gear won't dissolve in water or acid when finely chopped then don't force it to dissolve.
Have you tried smoking the stuff? Both no. 3 and no. 4 heroin can be smoked easily to see how potent it is.
 
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