How to withdraw from heroin with minimal withdrawals, using what I have.

[Bodda]

Part of the fun of opiate's is all the fukin about n whatnot , without all the shit it 'd be boring .

You even get a rush when you score , let alone take the gear .

Agree 100% on that one.
Of course everyone is happy when you see your man coming but I think when your well & proper on the horse & hooked by the balls the sight of your source or the phonecall to make a move is pure joy.

I bet you may agree with my here Brimz but alot of the time when I read stuff by people posted on BL I feel so sad in my very soul as I can tell they are just getting into this game & think they can control it, me & you plus others on here who have double figures for our time on it know how fucking EVIL the stuff is.
It is threads like this that make a small part of my soul so sad, I never felt when I began I would spend the rest of my life waiting on street corners etc waiting for people to drop me off something that is slowly driving me mad.

Sometimes & over the last 6 months or so I see only 1 way out of it, I really wish I had never began it.
I wish I had never began & I had a break down a few days ago I am quite sure you may have seen, the last few months it is getting to me badly, I hope you keeping well brimz

Peace.

 

[opiaterock]

Part of the fun of opiate's is all the fukin about n whatnot , without all the shit it 'd be boring .

You even get a rush when you score , let alone take the gear .

I fukin love Smack .

Mind you it has been a rocky relationship n we fall out from time 2 time but she is always there for me . IME one get's better at Opiates with practice so if you wanna get good best get in training cos it's a tough game n some folk just can't keep up with the pace .

Also some folk just aren't cut out for it full stop .

Honesty comes for free with this post btw.

R.I.P to all my fallen kin folk especially TOE KnEE PECK 40 years on the gear & died of cancer ,what a bitch eh ?

I would say Adam as well but i don't know if OPiates killed him tis but speculation atm . A lovely fella though who i had the pleasure of speaking to many times .

Right where did i put my tooter from last night , got a new package to try ......

oh this stuff is nice

Contender for best post ever to be honest... straight up the first section anyway, I've been looking forward to it sitting here in work all day / even have my tray & tooter folded out at home waiting (the going to score / expectation before you take it is a buzz in itself).. in moderation though I think because getting sucked in deep is not fun for anyone

Be safe %)

 

[opiaterock]

Agree 100% on that one.
Of course everyone is happy when you see your man coming but I think when your well & proper on the horse & hooked by the balls the sight of your source or the phonecall to make a move is pure joy.

I bet you may agree with my here Brimz but alot of the time when I read stuff by people posted on BL I feel so sad in my very soul as I can tell they are just getting into this game & think they can control it, me & you plus others on here who have double figures for our time on it know how fucking EVIL the stuff is.
It is threads like this that make a small part of my soul so sad, I never felt when I began I would spend the rest of my life waiting on street corners etc waiting for people to drop me off something that is slowly driving me mad.

Sometimes & over the last 6 months or so I see only 1 way out of it, I really wish I had never began it.
I wish I had never began & I had a break down a few days ago I am quite sure you may have seen, the last few months it is getting to me badly, I hope you keeping well brimz

Peace.

This is true man I never devleoped a full blown habit like some people I know... but I do wish like you I never started & would never wish it on any1, I was takin too much over the summer I can feel the rattles getting worse & worse over time - used to barely feel them & go through them with no problems at all I thought it didnt' affect me like everyone else. What nobody tells u is the first 3-4 years are still a 'honeymoon' period if that makes sense

 

[mydrugbuddy]

What nobody tells u is the first 3-4 years are still a 'honeymoon' period if that makes sense

Jesus, ive been using them on and off for 2 years, 18 months daily. I found the breaks in the first 6 months hard enough to deal with and each one was worse than the last. I am trying to quit for good now. If the first 3-4 years is easy, i dread to think, i couldnt even contemplate, what it must be like after that, to try and stop.

 

[One Thousand Words]

From those few posts it doesn't appear to me that you are honest enough with yourself to successfully quit at the moment. There are a lot of negative comments where you are talking yourself out of succeeding. There is no reason why you cant go to a doctor and get yourself a script, even if it is for a handful of valium to help ride out the storm. If you plan on doing this solo by not telling your gf or family then it is time to man up and accept there will be some pain. It would have been easier to perhaps used those last 3 bags to taper but to me all this sounds like someone who is having buyers remorse and is going through the motions. No pain no gain as they say. If you can't ween yourself with the limited supplies you have then you might have to face the fact that now is not the time and face the music with your loved ones.

Best of luck.

 

[opiaterock]

Jesus, ive been using them on and off for 2 years, 18 months daily. I found the breaks in the first 6 months hard enough to deal with and each one was worse than the last. I am trying to quit for good now. If the first 3-4 years is easy, i dread to think, i couldnt even contemplate, what it must be like after that, to try and stop.

Sorry mate I guess I made a sweeping generalisation there... for me I've been on and off gear since the middle of '09. The first withdrawal after about 6 months was a motherfucker but I avoided daily use since then. I would think every bodies situation is different.. now a days I take gear irregularly like I might get on average 3 bags a week but that could be 5 in one week and 1 the following week, What I guess Im trying to say is if you've been using 18 months more or less daily then I'm sure that your sickness are much worse than what I experience.

I probably should have said that I guess i'm still in some kind of 'honeymoon' period after 4 /12 years of irregular use - but not everyone would be after 4-5 years use. if that makes sense MDB?

 

[dopemegently]

Maybe you could ask for britlofex? I've never used it myself, but I believe it helps with RLS and just all that nervous energy caused by excess noradrenaline. If your doc won't give you a benzo, then etizolam from a good RC vendor could help you. (Strictly short-term only, they're addictive). Also, I've been hearing loperamide can really help with withdrawals. In fact, I've heard reports of it almost completely eliminating WD's in high enough doses.(you may need a laxative, however....)
The kratom's a good idea, but you may not have enough; it can take high doses to achieve analgesic/painkilling effects. I've been stockpiling the stuff for a future sub detox.

I'd say plan your detox carefully, don't just rush into it. Are you registered with a drug treatment agency? I only ask because all gp's (down south at least) will not touch opiate addicts with a ten foot bargepole eg a sign in my gp surgery reads: "we strictly do not offer suboxone or methadone therapy" maybe registering with an agency with a view to a short-term sub taper would be a good idea? (Down here, it can take 2-4 weeks).

Edit: OP I really cant guarantee a painless detox with what little you have on hand, (although your bupe is a good idea) of course I have known people who've done it cold turkey the hard way. A positive mindset will help you, of course.

 

[pontifex01]

I probably should have said that I guess i'm still in some kind of 'honeymoon' period after 4 /12 years of irregular use - but not everyone would be after 4-5 years use. if that makes sense MDB?

I remember f&b saying he'd used occasionally for 9 years until an emotionally traumatic event occurred (never specified) which triggered 3 month daily use, and after that he quit.
that's the thing you have to watch out for mate. you'll be cruising for years (i chipped with no problems for 5 years) and then something traumatic happens and it's just too tempting to get away from it all for just one day, then another one, then before you know it you're balls deep in a habit impossible to kick.

 

[opiaterock]

I remember f&b saying he'd used occasionally for 9 years until an emotionally traumatic event occurred (never specified) which triggered 3 month daily use, and after that he quit.
that's the thing you have to watch out for mate. you'll be cruising for years (i chipped with no problems for 5 years) and then something traumatic happens and it's just too tempting to get away from it all for just one day, then another one, then before you know it you're balls deep in a habit impossible to kick.

Thanks Pontifex, I know i've been very lucky and close to developing a full blown habit on some occasions... And to say it hasn't caused by any problems would be a massive lie (trouble with driving licence, serious family problems)

 

[backroll]

britlofex is shite

 

[brimz]

britlofex is shite

and it makes yer piss turn black

 

[sedated in death]

Yes you are right about the ritual of smoking it. I enjoy it a lot, usually I light a candle for atmosphere and also use it to light my lighter without using the flint lol. Put music on or watch tv. I actually prefer doing it on my own than with other people or even my 1 good friend that uses to. But at the end of the day it's no fun waking up, not having any and deciding to pawn my playstation, guitar, camera and everything else I have worth money. Then walking to the dealer feeling absolutely horrible and with barely enough energy to move.
I always say if heroin wasn't at all addictive and tolerance didn't occur it would be the best drug in the world, but.....
Anyway today after pawning my playstation again (I got it back last tuesday) I bought 4 bags, three for today and tonight and one for the morning, so I can meet my girlfriend before she goes away for a bit. I also went to see my doctor and he gave me, 21 Ibuprofen tablets, 21 Metoclopramide tablets, 20 Buscopan tablets, 7 more Zopiclone tablets and 42 Diazepam 5mg tablets to help with my withdrawal. He was suprisingly helpful and I didn't think he'd give me the Diazepam because I've been prescribed them a good few times before and when I actually asked him last time he wouldn't in case I got hooked. So anyway with my tools I plan to do a warm turkey withdrawal starting Sunday. I may not take the Subutex or Kratom unless I get to desperate.
I have driving lessons one a day Monday through till Friday which is an inconvenience and will probably lead to me taking the Sub and K.

Anyway thanks for your reply, and that goes to everyone as well

 

[sedated in death]

Hey

Yes you are right about the ritual of smoking it. I enjoy it a lot, usually I light a candle for atmosphere and also use it to light my lighter without using the flint lol. Put music on or watch tv. I actually prefer doing it on my own than with other people or even my 1 good friend that uses to. But at the end of the day it's no fun waking up, not having any and deciding to pawn my playstation, guitar, camera and everything else I have worth money. Then walking to the dealer feeling absolutely horrible and with barely enough energy to move.
I always say if heroin wasn't at all addictive and tolerance didn't occur it would be the best drug in the world, but.....
Anyway today after pawning my playstation again (I got it back last tuesday) I bought 4 bags, three for today and tonight and one for the morning, so I can meet my girlfriend before she goes away for a bit. I also went to see my doctor and he gave me, 21 Ibuprofen tablets, 21 Metoclopramide tablets, 20 Buscopan tablets, 7 more Zopiclone tablets and 42 Diazepam 5mg tablets to help with my withdrawal. He was suprisingly helpful and I didn't think he'd give me the Diazepam because I've been prescribed them a good few times before and when I actually asked him last time he wouldn't in case I got hooked. So anyway with my tools I plan to do a warm turkey withdrawal starting Sunday. I may not take the Subutex or Kratom unless I get to desperate.
I have driving lessons one a day Monday through till Friday which is an inconvenience and will probably lead to me taking the Sub and K.

Anyway thanks for your reply, and that goes to everyone as well

 

[sedated in death]

By the way to people saying that I've only been doing it 3 weeks and the rattle will be easy. You forget I was hooked for a good couple years before I stopped. The rattle is still pretty bad this time around and I've learned to fear it.
To people that say heroin is good if you can handle it, maybe so. But I must say looking back (with the exception I met my girlfriend in that time) The gear years were the worst of my life really, I used to travel somewhat before and go out with loads of mates. I don't see most of my mates anymore. All I do is wander the streets alone late at night, observing everything, and everyone. Sometimes I sit, other times I stand. But never for long before I move on, I have become known as the night stalker. I have little memory of my previous life, when I was still mortal.

 

[lurching]

All I do is wander the streets alone late at night, observing everything, and everyone. Sometimes I sit, other times I stand. But never for long before I move on, I have become known as the night stalker. I have little memory of my previous life, when I was still mortal.

The night stalker, eh? Well don't give up yr day job :D