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Television Breaking Bad

Some art I found.

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23536 said:
Personally I don't consider any of them evil but Marlo and the 3 from Oz. Killing alone doesn't ruin a soul.

Oz had some bad bad people though!
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Is oz any good?
Carl Landrover said:
Agreed on Omar. "A man must have a code" and Omar had a code. He never took out any citizens, only targeted people that were in the game. That became a significant plot point when Marlo/Chris Partlow/Old Face Andre tried to set him up. He was sort of Robin Hood in the hood.
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Exactly. Just like Dexter has a Code. But like we both said Omar never targeted innocent bystanders. ''Omar COMING'' lol
Mr.Scagnattie said:
Hah, totally. I like that. Loved the wire.
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Me too man i wish they did a 6th season
 
The PR department at AMC just sent out the following brief statement:

AMC and Sony Pictures Television confirmed today that they have reached a licensing agreement for a spinoff of Vince Gilligan’s landmark AMC/SPT series Breaking Bad. As conceived, the new series is based on the show’s popular Saul Goodman character with the working title Better Call Saul. Plans call for Saul to be a one-hour prequel that will focus on the evolution of the popular Saul Goodman character before he ever became Walter White’s lawyer.
Perhaps after someone writes a script they’ll all decide that this is a bad idea. Or maybe they’ll shoot a pilot and decide they don’t like it. But if nothing else this means that a bunch of creative people are going to try to make this show.

Rumors of a Saul-centric series have been going around for a while; back in April, June Thomas made the case here on Brow Beat that such a show was probably a bad idea, given that the sketchy lawyer archetype, while “a wonderfully adaptable supporting character,” is probably not “substantial enough to sustain a whole show.”

I tend to agree. But I’m still curious to find out. And the prequel route seems like the way to go; for one thing, it means we still don’t know whether Saul Goodman will make it to the end of Breaking Bad alive. And even if he does, I can only assume he’d want to follow up the Walter White saga with some peace and quiet. Better to see how he ended up in the dubious place he had reached when Walt first found him.

Update: Variety confirms that Bob Odenkirk will star in the series (in case you feared that AMC would try to cast a younger actor in the role of the youthful Goodman) and that Peter Gould, a writer and producer who has worked on all five seasons of Breaking Bad, will be “spearheading the project.”

Seems to me there would be an endless amount of adventures Saul could get into being a shady criminal lawyer. Cant wait but I see this show would be more comedy than anything. You cant help but laugh at this character. Dont worry, ItS all Goodman.
 
None of them can shoot at all...and all have unlimited ammo in their magazines. It was really disappointing. I know it ends with the firefight still going on, but so many rounds were used in that last bit, Hank and Gomez weren't even in cover...

Bit annoying. Other than that, intense and emotional episode.

ColtDan said:
Lydia is such a babe
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Seconded.
 
psood0nym said:
I understand what you mean now much better. Thanks for explaining.

As Mandark alludes to above, Breaking Bad is the hottest show on television partially because it evokes reactions and discussions like these. One of the chief ways it achieves this is by having its characters progress through a broad range of moral culpability in different contexts within the story, which viewers often form conflicting judgments about. You’ve brought up the plane disaster, for instance, which brilliantly illustrates Walt’s indirect role in the story’s greatest single tragedy.

It’s true that Walt is not fully responsible for the deaths of the plane’s passengers, but he certainly is not innocent of them either. The disaster emphasized one of the show’s major chemistry-related themes: collateral damage ensuing by chain-reaction from sinful choices. This is where the role of “the eye” we saw depicted so many times figures into things. It can be interpreted various ways – the eye of god, of moral truth, of conscience – but in all of these cases it serves to demonstrate Walt’s unquestionable awareness that what he is doing is wrong.

The reason Walt is inarguably a bad person is that we’ve been shown he never had to do any of what he has done. We learned early on that his former business partners were magnanimously willing to pay for his cancer treatment and aid his family in the event of his death. But Walt rejected their kindness and chose not to seek assistance out of pride and spite – two further sins.
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Gotta stop you there : "Pride is not a sin, it's a value!" - Agnostic Front

And I stand by that principle too, the philosophical ramifications would be too long to explain right now in my etaqualone daze.

Marie’s observation...
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BZZZZT, the answer was "Who's the cunted cunt in the beautiful world of fictitious characters, all art forms considered?"
 
The shootout is more than fucked. Todd and his uncle, i'm pretty sure have atleast one assault rifle and a combat shotgun, those alone, unless(which Hank is shown to be...)Hank and Gomie are Robin Hood level shots.....they just don't have a chance. Everyone already pointed out the most damning bit which was that there was no cover when the shootout started, Hank/Gomie would've been filled with holes besides the fact they only had a shotgun/handgun. The show always does surprise me though, I thought Walt might have just given up on Hank or him living, but yet he still attempts to warn him. I like how Hank doesn't even really seem to care either,(ONLY reason I don't like Hanks character, hes to "standard" DEA where its like "Oh XXX dealt drugs or murdered someone?", "Then their the devil, raping our children, etc. etc.", he doesn't even look at facts before making these thoughts IMO, look at Walt, he instantly condemned him, even before knowing the full story, for all Hank knew, every one of those "murders" where almost forced upon Walt whom he's known for years, yet he instantly condemns him, I more than understand Hank condemning Walt after recording Jesse's confession but before.....? IMO just being a typical punk ignorant PO)no matter what Walt is a killer now, not someone who he's eaten dinner with a million times. It almost makes me feel for Walt like he's still attempting to cling to some life raft of humanity, pretending that as long as no one he's murdered is "family" or close to it that he isn't to far off from being a good person. I sometimes imagine Walt is hoping Hank lives so one day, they can have those down home family dinners again with Marie/Skyler gabbing and Walt Jr. cracking wise....... I also liked how it all started, I was wondering if Todd/his Uncle would just pull up, take position, and unload but they did the more comical "OH your LE.....well to me it looks like your a couple o'weirdo's kidnapping a couple of people at gun point....", "So if your LE show badges....", also a bit funny that they did not show badges which i'm pretty sure their actually required to do in that sort of situation. It would've been absolutely hilarious if Gomez(they make note on the Talking Bad about how by the book Gomez is as a character so ;)) would've just been like "STOP!!", then showed his badge and everyone just stopped silent for a second, then resumed....

I also love the whole morality issue that arises from this. At first I was with Walt until like Psood so elegantly sums up, his pride inflates until it consumes him and he is just a shell performing auto maintenance to stay alive. Up until a point I understood though and hated Skyler who like Jesse, seemingly simply couldn't deal with the guilt. When viewed vicariously, the beginning is simply life, everyone makes excuses for what and why they've done things. We all need to rationalize things, but letting someone OD simply to prove a point or poisoning a child to attempt to make sure someone sees your point and not another? That is a bit far for any rationalization except for "I'm slowly losing my will to my pride and if I don't stop now i'll be a hollow shell of the fully haired man I once was...". I mean I suppose he may have died, but many a man would have chosen to die with dignity rather than poisoning a child to elicit their goals. I mean he had come so far but with that one I don't think he even really thought it through TBH, he didn't think about how horribly that it would mess with Jesse's head, almost like being the last straw breaking the strings, in the marionette that was Walt stringing Jesse along for his own means to an end.
 
Honestly if I were Hank, I would've handed Walt the Leaves of Grass book and told him to burn it.

Family comes before society.

"La familia es todo." Hector Salamanca
 
23536 said:
Honestly if I were Hank, I would've handed Walt the Leaves of Grass book and told him to burn it.

Family comes before society.

"La familia es todo." Hector Salamanca
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Hank should have just asked for a barrel and he would keep quiet, so long as Walt had actually quit.

Has there been any person or website that has figured out how much cash it takes to fill up a 55gallon barrel?


Walt and Skyler totally didn't appreciate that pile. Huell and the other guy at least laid down on it, which is what I would have done. Walt and Skyler could have had a great money fight, which is like a snowball fight, but with wads of cash.

Walt and Jesse should have just hashed it out with a good ole money fight. "You poisoned Brock! See how $20000 to the face feels!" *Body slam onto pile of cash*


I wish someone would slap me in the face with $20000.
 
ColtDan said:
Yeah that pissed me off a bit. constant whiney moaning
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Yeah she was fucking acting inconvienced by it. Like, "Oh godddd, you had to make 80 million? Not 15 million? This pile is just so biiggg, Jesusss. Forget shit loads of people don't even have a job in this country and we're sitting on a room full of cash, it's so anooyyingg."

*Punches in the nose*

Shut the fuck up.
 
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